GRIZ CAT GAME!

[grizindabox]

Sac State tied with EWU at the half...

EWU is playing without there best big guy

 

[BelierPeaux]

Well, that was a stinker of a game. But glad for the win. Poooooooooooor Bobcats!

 

[grizonbob]

Yeah. Kinda boring. But nice to see the Griz keep getting better and better...

 

[mtgrizrule]

Nice job GRIZ and LG!!! This one could have been much worse. The GRIZ did not attack as much the last 5 minutes.

 

[Spanky]

Go Griz!!!!

 

[grizatwork]

A win is a win, but the cats are really bad. If Gregory even hits on a small percentage of his shots it is ugly. If the griz don't play tight early it is ugly. If Bruenig plays half of what he has the past month it is ugly. It was ugly, but it could have been uglier. What a clunker of a game to watch.

 

[Richard Cranium]

The cats looked so horrible, I actually started to feel sorry for them. Then I remembered they are the shitty kitties. State is a joke in the athletic realm. Poor kitty kitties.

 

[PlayerRep]

4915 attendance. 3535 for women.

 

[UMGriz75]

Cat-erwauling in Bozeman.

Re: Cat Griz 2015 Part 1

Postby BozoneCat on Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:50 pm
And..... this is why no one was excited about this weekend. I'm sick and f@$*%#ing tired of every single one of our teams getting beat by the goddamn grizzlies, and until something starts to change, I fear the lack of enthusiasm for all MSU Athletics programs will continue to slowly drift to a worse and worse place. President Cruzado, are you hearing this???

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=35206" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:twisted:

 

[UMGriz75]

Does anyone even care?

Postby Colter_Nuanez on Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:06 am
This is the least interest I've ever seen for Cat-Griz in my years living in Montana and writing about Montana. Has everyone on the Bobcat side of things just reconciled yourselves to two losses?

Honestly, I watched Central Washington against Western Washington (a rivalry I covered for two years while living in Ellensburg) on ROOT last night and I couldn't help but think: Nicholson Pavilion had a turnout that was more engaged, more passionate and larger in number than any I will see at the Brick this year. And that's a Division II rivalry held in a 2,400-seat arena in a town of 5,500 people.

If this isn't rock bottom, what is?

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=35192" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[UMGriz75]

4915 attendance. 3535 for women.

Breunig was surprised by the crowd of 4,915 for the 290th meeting of the rivals.

"It was really exciting for me," he said. "I didn’t expect a lot of people out there. The atmosphere was great and the team was pumped to play the Cats."

http://missoulian.com/ravalli/sports/college/grizzlies/griz-shut-down-cold-cats/article_3b7c5f84-e77b-55f5-bc59-89e3a26dda46.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[BelierPeaux]

4915 attendance. 3535 for women.

Breunig was surprised by the crowd of 4,915 for the 290th meeting of the rivals.

"It was really exciting for me," he said. "I didn’t expect a lot of people out there. The atmosphere was great and the team was pumped to play the Cats."

http://missoulian.com/ravalli/sports/college/grizzlies/griz-shut-down-cold-cats/article_3b7c5f84-e77b-55f5-bc59-89e3a26dda46.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He thought that crowd was exciting??? Oh my. It's embarrassing that they only got that many to the game. Shite.

I agree with Colter. I understand Bozeman's lack of interest, their team is absolute crap. But to not have a rivalry game as a sell-out, or near sell-out, is a joke. That crowd seemed to be taking a nap through most of the game, too.

 

[UMGriz75]

He thought that crowd was exciting??? Oh my. It's embarrassing that they only got that many to the game. Shite

Nearly 5,000 for a Big Sky conference basketball game is something. UM remains the best in the conference. That IS exciting, and especially considering it was an intersession game.

 

[EdG]

I could not believe how bad the Cats looked - they were terrible

 

[br fan]

I could not believe how bad the Cats looked - they were terrible

I think part of how bad they're playing may have to do with their new coach. I was at the game and early in the first half Norman grabbed an offensive rebound and then missed the put back, and Fish was livid. Fish called a time-out and ran about a third of the way across the court to meet Norman and chest bumped him as he was screaming at him. That incident got me to watch the interaction between Fish and his players for the rest of the game, and it didn't seem to be very good

 

[Agent G]

Ya there may be some question about Fish's performance so far. MSU has enough talent that they should have been able to be competitive in that game...if they were put together & motivated the right way.

We all know that good coaches generally find ways to win or at least compete well enough to give their teams a chance at the end...even with average talent. Game in & game out when teams underperform related to their collective ability it's usually a sign of a coaching issue. If they missed 15 layups he can easily blame the players for that but it looks clear he's contributing to the psyche of those kids which makes it easier for them to fail at doing even basic things.

For the sake of him as a coach & for the college/basketball experience of the players, hopefully he figures something out before it's too late.

 

[UMGriz75]

“I didn’t like our week of practice,” Fish said. “For whatever reason, we weren’t locked in. I was trying to prod them and get them to go and they walked away. They just weren’t ready to fight. That’s on me. I have to get them fighting and get after them. At the end of the game, you have to finish, finish lay-ups, finish games.

“I was definitely worried before this started. We weren’t locked in. You sit there and talk about a rivalry. It’s not a rivalry when you are 0-4 and you’ve lost eight in a row. You have to go get a win. You have to fight and battle. We needed a win to get ourselves going and get the ship going in the right direction.

“Tonight, they wore us down. In a game like that, you have to be the ones coming off the floor with the most blood on you and we weren’t tonight.”

Other than that, Fish has praised how hard his team plays throughout the season. He just knows he doesn't have any talent.

Last week at the press conference, Ted Dawson asks, "Coach, it seems like your team has the ability to start well and play hard but then you hit these cold streaks. Why does it change or how does it change?"

Coach Fish "It changes when we sub."

In other words, aside from about 5 guys, MSU doesn't have a Division I team.

 

[Grizfan-24]

I am going to give Fish some lee-way here. He needs time to turnover a roster and institute some culture change. There is little talent on that roster than can help them bridge the gap right now. Based upon what I have seen over a few games, MSU is two or three years away from competing in the conference.

Huse depended so heavily on JC route to add talent to the roster. His four year recruits Colbert, Dison, Shannon, Robison, and Brumwell are spectacularly average. Only Dison of his freshman recruits have proved to be any good and the rest are role players. You can't miss as often as Huse did on his four year talent. In fact whether they are or were walkon or scholarshipped talent, he didn't find much talent in the four year area and most didn't last. He was turning over way too much of his roster every year and what remained was merely glue guys (minus Dison).

Fish is left in a tough spot. His roster has no experience and very little experienced talent. Every Freshman who either Huse signed (early) or Fish (Late) has had to play. Kids they might have preferred to redshirt (ie the 7-0 English kid) have had to man some minutes here and there.

However the Cats will return a majority of the roster, provided there aren't defections for next years roster. The problem really as I see it, that unless a kid like the Holm or Colbert kid take a serious step forward, this roster lacks any scoring punch next year. It will be interesting to see whether Fish stays the course by sticking to adding Freshman. His current recruiting class of 4 includes 3 Freshman and 1 JC guy. I would think Fish gets time to see his vision through, but he's going to have to nail these two recruiting classes to push things forward because Huse left him with a fairly bare cupboard.

 

[statler & waldorf]

I now know why Griz fans are not showing up for home games. uke:

 

[grizd]

I am going to give Fish some lee-way here. He needs time to turnover a roster and institute some culture change. There is little talent on that roster than can help them bridge the gap right now. Based upon what I have seen over a few games, MSU is two or three years away from competing in the conference.

Huse depended so heavily on JC route to add talent to the roster. His four year recruits Colbert, Dison, Shannon, Robison, and Brumwell are spectacularly average. Only Dison of his freshman recruits have proved to be any good and the rest are role players. You can't miss as often as Huse did on his four year talent. In fact whether they are or were walkon or scholarshipped talent, he didn't find much talent in the four year area and most didn't last. He was turning over way too much of his roster every year and what remained was merely glue guys (minus Dison).

Fish is left in a tough spot. His roster has no experience and very little experienced talent. Every Freshman who either Huse signed (early) or Fish (Late) has had to play. Kids they might have preferred to redshirt (ie the 7-0 English kid) have had to man some minutes here and there.

However the Cats will return a majority of the roster, provided there aren't defections for next years roster. The problem really as I see it, that unless a kid like the Holm or Colbert kid take a serious step forward, this roster lacks any scoring punch next year. It will be interesting to see whether Fish stays the course by sticking to adding Freshman. His current recruiting class of 4 includes 3 Freshman and 1 JC guy. I would think Fish gets time to see his vision through, but he's going to have to nail these two recruiting classes to push things forward because Huse left him with a fairly bare cupboard.

Talent can't be coached and doesn't always fit your ideal system, agree very much. BUT, effort and willingness to play for your coach can be done at any level with any talent. That's what is missing from the Cats. Stark contrast to both Travis and Tinkle who are both coaching other staff's rosters that don't necessarily fit their ideal team makeup. I was not impressed with their teams effort.