Griz Bengals Game

[GrizLA]

I sense that Breunig is emerging as a team leader, too, which is nice to see. When the Griz really need some critical points, he doesn't shy away from going after them.

He does but he also shoots free throws about 65% and is prone to fouls...

Most of Breunig's struggles at the FT line were the 1st half of the season. Also, Breunig will likely be more effective and less foul prone, if the GRIZ make a post season tournament. BSC officiating kills him if he gets even slightly physical. The petty calls are not called often in post season play.

official calls are pretty good tonight.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I sense that Breunig is emerging as a team leader, too, which is nice to see. When the Griz really need some critical points, he doesn't shy away from going after them.

He does but he also shoots free throws about 65% and is prone to fouls...

Most of Breunig's struggles at the FT line were the 1st half of the season. Also, Breunig will likely be more effective and less foul prone, if the GRIZ make a post season tournament. BSC officiating kills him if he gets even slightly physical. The petty calls are not called often in post season play.

official calls are pretty good tonight.

Yes, and that proves my point. He plays much better when the calls are not so damn nit picky. :thumb:

 

[GrizLA]

He does but he also shoots free throws about 65% and is prone to fouls...

Most of Breunig's struggles at the FT line were the 1st half of the season. Also, Breunig will likely be more effective and less foul prone, if the GRIZ make a post season tournament. BSC officiating kills him if he gets even slightly physical. The petty calls are not called often in post season play.

official calls are pretty good tonight.

Yes, and that proves my point. He plays much better when the calls are not so damn nit picky. :thumb:

He needs to begin making his free throws...every game now but one is on the road..

 

[UMGriz75]

Final 88-77 UM. Should have been a much larger spread at home. Upside: another win. Downside, Bradshaw, Lopez and Kemp got very little playing time and this should have been a great game for the bench.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Great game, hard to bitch when you win by double digits and your team leads wire to wire. Other than a few lazy passes by the GRIZ, offensive continuity was terrific. The GRIZ spread it out well with Gregory, Dunn, Gfeller, and Breunig all in double figures. Weisner with a nice game off the bench too.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Just tuned in the LK/UTAH vs WT/OSU game on the pac 12 network. It just started.

 

[grizonbob]

Evans did a good job of keeping ISU in the game after it appeared it could be a blowout early on...

 

[grizonbob]

Just tuned in the LK/UTAH vs WT/OSU game on the pac 12 network. It just started.

Can you get that online?

 

[mtgrizrule]

need to have an internet provider with the pac 12 network. http://pac-12.com/mens-basketball/event/2015/02/19/utah-oregon-state" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[grizonbob]

need to have an internet provider with the pac 12 network. http://pac-12.com/mens-basketball/event/2015/02/19/utah-oregon-state" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mine isn't, but it was worth asking...thanks

 

[PlayerRep]

I sense that Breunig is emerging as a team leader, too, which is nice to see. When the Griz really need some critical points, he doesn't shy away from going after them.

He does but he also shoots free throws about 65% and is prone to fouls...

Breunig is shooting 74% from the free throw line for the season (77% conference). 3d best of the starters, behind Gfeller and Gregory. Has made 75 free throws, 2d to Gregory.

Since I was looking at stats:

Breunig plays 29.4 minutes, scores 16.8 on 58.8% shooting, gets 7 rebounds, and has 82 fouls and 55 turnovers.

Krslovic - 24.7, 2.7, 50.6%, 4.8, and 59 and 28.

Kemp - 8.8, 2.6, 51.1%, 1.8, and 28 and 10.

Bradshaw plays 13.6 minutes and also averages 2.6 points.

So, by eyeballing, Kemp rebounds at about the same rate as Breunig and slightly better than Krlsovic. Kemp scores at a better rate than Krslovic, but not nearly as good as Breunig. Kemp fouls at a higher rate than both, but not too much higher than Breunig. Breunig gets more turnovers, and Krslovic and Kemp have about the same rate of turnovers. Again, I was only eyeballing, and didn't do the math.

 

[Potomac Griz]

...Kemp rebounds at about the same rate as Breunig and slightly better than Krlsovic. Kemp scores at a better rate than Krslovic...

The reason Krslovic is starting and playing many more minutes than Kemp (which is I'm assuming what you are getting at?) is defense. He has an incredible knack for being in the right spot and disrupting things for other teams. In conference games he is 2nd on the team in steals right now (Dunn is first). He averages only 0.01 less in steals per 40 minutes than Dunn in conference. That's pretty damn impressive for a true freshman post.

On the offensive side both he and Breunig are very good at finding the open shooters too which is nice to have from the post.

As for the stats, if we look at it per 40 minutes played here are the numbers in conference so far for Krslovic, Kemp and Breunig:

Breunig (56.98%FG, 76.79%FT):
21.4pts, 9.038rebounds, 2.68assists, 3turnovers, 0.98blocks, 0.54steals, 4.1fouls

Krslovic (53.70%FG, 48.39%FT):
7.89pts, 8.649rebounds, 2.05assists, 1.9turnovers, 0.54blocks, 2.16steals, 4.2fouls

Kemp (55.0%FG, 62.5%FT):
15.2pts, 8.451rebounds, 0.56assists, 2.8turnovers, 0blocks, 0steals, 11fouls

With Kemp's minutes being under 6 per game in conference it's a little hard to get a good idea on his stats. In previous years I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to the per-40 minute averages when players had much below 10 mins per game. Just didn't make a lot of sense statistically. One good game or awful game can skew the numbers a ton when there aren't a lot of minutes played.

I do think Kemp brings a little more offensively (scoring anyway) and the numbers of course show that, but defensively there is a dropoff when Krslovic goes out of the game. The Griz have a very good defense this year, at or near the top in every defensive category in conference. Krslovic is a huge part of that and has earned his minutes with his great defense in my opinion.

 

[grizfan22]

I am so confused at why a discussion for Kemp playing more is even brought up. He doesn't pose the skill set needed to perform for the Griz. Any argument toward him taking time away from Bruenig is just asinine, Martin is the most skilled offensive big man in the conference. And as for kryslovic, well he is a stud for a true freshman. His post defense is the best on the team and his best skill set. He has great hands and anticipation and his stats are deceiving. What he brings on the floor cant be measured by stats alone. Just like Mario Dunn his presence is felt whether he scores a point or not. Both Mario and Kryslovic are the glue that makes us a solid basketball team. I have no hard feelings towards Kemp but being a basketball mind and watching every game he just doesn't have the skill set to make a team better. He lacks defensive discipline and is a liability defensive when he is on the floor. He is big and strong and can board well enough but he isn't the caliber of our other bigs.

 

[PlayerRep]

...Kemp rebounds at about the same rate as Breunig and slightly better than Krlsovic. Kemp scores at a better rate than Krslovic...

The reason Krslovic is starting and playing many more minutes than Kemp (which is I'm assuming what you are getting at?) is defense. He has an incredible knack for being in the right spot and disrupting things for other teams. In conference games he is 2nd on the team in steals right now (Dunn is first). He averages only 0.01 less in steals per 40 minutes than Dunn in conference. That's pretty damn impressive for a true freshman post.

On the offensive side both he and Breunig are very good at finding the open shooters too which is nice to have from the post.

As for the stats, if we look at it per 40 minutes played here are the numbers in conference so far for Krslovic, Kemp and Breunig:

Breunig (56.98%FG, 76.79%FT):
21.4pts, 9.038rebounds, 2.68assists, 3turnovers, 0.98blocks, 0.54steals, 4.1fouls

Krslovic (53.70%FG, 48.39%FT):
7.89pts, 8.649rebounds, 2.05assists, 1.9turnovers, 0.54blocks, 2.16steals, 4.2fouls

Kemp (55.0%FG, 62.5%FT):
15.2pts, 8.451rebounds, 0.56assists, 2.8turnovers, 0blocks, 0steals, 11fouls

With Kemp's minutes being under 6 per game in conference it's a little hard to get a good idea on his stats. In previous years I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to the per-40 minute averages when players had much below 10 mins per game. Just didn't make a lot of sense statistically. One good game or awful game can skew the numbers a ton when there aren't a lot of minutes played.

I do think Kemp brings a little more offensively (scoring anyway) and the numbers of course show that, but defensively there is a dropoff when Krslovic goes out of the game. The Griz have a very good defense this year, at or near the top in every defensive category in conference. Krslovic is a huge part of that and has earned his minutes with his great defense in my opinion.

Agreed on defense, but look at the scoring. Kemp is a better scorer and better finisher around the basket. Rebounding even, although I think Kemp is ahead on rebounding in the 40-minute season stats. Neither are good free throw shooters, but look how low Krslovic is. Krslovic is a good hustler too, and makes lots of nice little plays. I have zero problem with his starting and getting significant playing time. But Kemp deserves more minutes, in my view. Krslovic plays good defense, but he was far from perfect last night.

 

[PlayerRep]

I am so confused at why a discussion for Kemp playing more is even brought up. He doesn't pose the skill set needed to perform for the Griz. Any argument toward him taking time away from Bruenig is just asinine, Martin is the most skilled offensive big man in the conference. And as for kryslovic, well he is a stud for a true freshman. His post defense is the best on the team and his best skill set. He has great hands and anticipation and his stats are deceiving. What he brings on the floor cant be measured by stats alone. Just like Mario Dunn his presence is felt whether he scores a point or not. Both Mario and Kryslovic are the glue that makes us a solid basketball team. I have no hard feelings towards Kemp but being a basketball mind and watching every game he just doesn't have the skill set to make a team better. He lacks defensive discipline and is a liability defensive when he is on the floor. He is big and strong and can board well enough but he isn't the caliber of our other bigs.

Doesn't surprise me that you are confused. Some of your post is asinine. Basketball mind? Haha. Actually, I agree with a few things you said. Krslovic fumbled/lost the ball several times last night under the basket. You are over-stating his hands. Very good player, tho.

 

[grizd]

The playing time decision is as much about next year as it is this year. All things equal give the minutes and experience to the younger guy that can help set the future of the program. That's my guess.

 

[PlayerRep]

The playing time decision is as much about next year as it is this year. All things equal give the minutes and experience to the younger guy that can help set the future of the program. That's my guess.

I don't agree. UM is in the conference race and in the mix to win the tourney and go to the ncaa's. Playing time should be about doing what's best to win games and have the depth to advance from the tourney. I readily acknowledge that the coach knows much more about the situation than I do, but I also know what the internet is for.

 

[grizfan22]

What about it is asinine? Kryslovic does fumble the ball at times and he did so last night. But he passes well, usually catches the ball and finishes with touch around the rim, and his defensive position and anticipation is impressive for a post to average over two steals a game is nice.. He has a lot of things he could improve on but Kemp is not as well rounded as kryslovic is. I like Kemp and think he has a role on the team but he gets the appropriate amount of playing time for this team. This team has played so well together for what we were picked to do this year(i thought we were under rated though). Decuire in my opinion is a great coach and I don't think we should question what guys are playing with what he has gotten from this team this year.

 

[PlayerRep]

What about it is asinine? Kryslovic does fumble the ball at times and he did so last night. But he passes well, usually catches the ball and finishes with touch around the rim, and his defensive position and anticipation is impressive for a post to average over two steals a game is nice.. He has a lot of things he could improve on but Kemp is not as well rounded as kryslovic is. I like Kemp and think he has a role on the team but he gets the appropriate amount of playing time for this team. This team has played so well together for what we were picked to do this year(i thought we were under rated though). Decuire in my opinion is a great coach and I don't think we should question what guys are playing with what he has gotten from this team this year.

I like Krslovich too. I don't quite agree with the nice touch around the basket and finish comments, tho. He is fine, but not great, there. Kemp is better at those things. Yes, the team has played well and considerably better than I thought they would, based on the early pre-season games. Still think Kemp deserves more than the several minutes that he's been getting lately. The team has a bad habit of losing focus and letting too many teams make big runs at them when they (UM) have a nice lead. It happened last night. It happened at SS. It has happened in other games.

 

[grizd]

The playing time decision is as much about next year as it is this year. All things equal give the minutes and experience to the younger guy that can help set the future of the program. That's my guess.

I don't agree. UM is in the conference race and in the mix to win the tourney and go to the ncaa's. Playing time should be about doing what's best to win games and have the depth to advance from the tourney. I readily acknowledge that the coach knows much more about the situation than I do, but I also know what the internet is for.

I said all things equal. Playing Kemp doesn't give them a better chance at winning. His biggest issue is how you match him up on the defensive end. Not effort, not offensive game, not rebounding. If you think the coach isn't trying to win games you obviously haven't coached the game.