Griz at UW Predictions

[jodcon]

I don't believe in trying to pick an actual score. UW will win handily is a safe assumption. When you are the prohibitive underdog, smart coaches will try to use as much clock as possible to make it a shorter game. Stitt's huge ego and inflexibility to run anything but the hurry-up will likely result in an ugly result and give UW several extra possessions they wouldn't get if we used the clock wisely. When the Griz play teams like Valpo and Savannah State is is wise to run the hurry-up to get more possessions and total plays as eventually JLM and other talented guys will bust a big plays if given more opportunities. I've never understood why severe underdogs run the hurry-up, especially with a lead, like Indiana had on Ohio State. They were actually winning and still ran the hurry-up. Why? Make the game shorter, and the underdog has a better chance to pull the upset, something that Stitt and other dumb coaches don't seem to understand.

When teams that run the hurry up exclusively try to "milk the clock", they tend to look disjointed and out of sorts on offense....it's not as easy as just slowing things down.

Kind of like EWU when they had the big lead on us and tried to run the clock, Vernon looked like a sugared-up kid in a cage and was winging balls everywhere, almost let us back into it. They hate that crap.

 

[Zirg]

That's a lame excuse. So it's impossible to practice 2 different offensive paces? Once you learn to run the hurry-up, you are locked into that pace and will be unable to run plays the way most of these guys have played their entire life? That is one-dimensional thinking and Stitt's refusal or inability to run a traditional offense to use the clock late in a game while leading cost us the Cal-Poly game 2 years ago. All we had to do was use the full play clock and Cal-Poly never would have got their last possession to win with 4 seconds left.

 

[jodcon]

That's a lame excuse. So it's impossible to practice 2 different offensive paces? Once you learn to run the hurry-up, you are locked into that pace and will be unable to run plays the way most of these guys have played their entire life? That is one-dimensional thinking and Stitt's refusal or inability to run a traditional offense to use the clock late in a game while leading cost us the Cal-Poly game 2 years ago. All we had to do was use the full play clock and Cal-Poly never would have got their last possession to win with 4 seconds left.

Not disagreeing with that, just saying you better make sure the game is really in hand before starting that because a lot of times it screws up your tempo and you can't do anything and the team behind can sneak back into it because it's not as easy as flipping a switch and getting it going again. I don't think it mattered against Valpo but others it might. EWU started it way too early against us and we made a game of it, can't remember the Poly game but you're probably right on that one.

 

[putter]

Gave up 400 yards to Valpo. This will be tough.

Dogs -- 38
Griz -- 13

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Montana 78
Washington 108

 

[Man1]

84-9 Huskies if they call off the dogs in the 4th qtr

 

[first11]

Won't be as bad as the beat down of the ducks by huskies not that long ago. Think Udub rang up over 70 on the hapless duckies

 

[rail43boy]

dogs 55
us 17

 

[AZDoc]

UW 47-13

 

[behappp]

Dawgs are going to want to prove they are a final 4 team again this year.

We need to use this opportunity to give a lot of players experience and see how they perform under the pressure of a tough road game.

We're gonna get smoked
but that's ok.

 

[Zirg]

That's a lame excuse. So it's impossible to practice 2 different offensive paces? Once you learn to run the hurry-up, you are locked into that pace and will be unable to run plays the way most of these guys have played their entire life? That is one-dimensional thinking and Stitt's refusal or inability to run a traditional offense to use the clock late in a game while leading cost us the Cal-Poly game 2 years ago. All we had to do was use the full play clock and Cal-Poly never would have got their last possession to win with 4 seconds left.

Not disagreeing with that, just saying you better make sure the game is really in hand before starting that because a lot of times it screws up your tempo and you can't do anything and the team behind can sneak back into it because it's not as easy as flipping a switch and getting it going again. I don't think it mattered against Valpo but others it might. EWU started it way too early against us and we made a game of it, can't remember the Poly game but you're probably right on that one.

The griz had 2 possessions in the final 5 minute and didn't run the play-clock down to 1 second (they did slow down a bit, but still snapped the ball with 10-12 seconds for 2 straight drives and Poly kicked a long FG at the buzzer. You HAVE to have the ability to use the entire play-clock in some circumstances. The Griz would have won that game, PERIOD, had we used up more clock

 

[Buttegrizzle]

I think we'll score a little, concern is getting any stops at all.

56-16 seems right, hoping for better though

Jodcon called it. Our defense looks Godawful. We didn't lay a glove on the QB of a non scholarship team after the first early sack. No pass rush at all. No ability to stay with receivers. Our offense will score but our defense won't get many stops vs UW. I think 56-14.

 

[AZGrizFan]

That's a lame excuse. So it's impossible to practice 2 different offensive paces? Once you learn to run the hurry-up, you are locked into that pace and will be unable to run plays the way most of these guys have played their entire life? That is one-dimensional thinking and Stitt's refusal or inability to run a traditional offense to use the clock late in a game while leading cost us the Cal-Poly game 2 years ago. All we had to do was use the full play clock and Cal-Poly never would have got their last possession to win with 4 seconds left.

Not disagreeing with that, just saying you better make sure the game is really in hand before starting that because a lot of times it screws up your tempo and you can't do anything and the team behind can sneak back into it because it's not as easy as flipping a switch and getting it going again. I don't think it mattered against Valpo but others it might. EWU started it way too early against us and we made a game of it, can't remember the Poly game but you're probably right on that one.

Case in point: A&M game last night...watching them try to milk the clock was painful...and inevitably unsuccessful, despite their 34 point lead.

 

[jodcon]

That's a lame excuse. So it's impossible to practice 2 different offensive paces? Once you learn to run the hurry-up, you are locked into that pace and will be unable to run plays the way most of these guys have played their entire life? That is one-dimensional thinking and Stitt's refusal or inability to run a traditional offense to use the clock late in a game while leading cost us the Cal-Poly game 2 years ago. All we had to do was use the full play clock and Cal-Poly never would have got their last possession to win with 4 seconds left.

Not disagreeing with that, just saying you better make sure the game is really in hand before starting that because a lot of times it screws up your tempo and you can't do anything and the team behind can sneak back into it because it's not as easy as flipping a switch and getting it going again. I don't think it mattered against Valpo but others it might. EWU started it way too early against us and we made a game of it, can't remember the Poly game but you're probably right on that one.

The griz had 2 possessions in the final 5 minute and didn't run the play-clock down to 1 second (they did slow down a bit, but still snapped the ball with 10-12 seconds for 2 straight drives and Poly kicked a long FG at the buzzer. You HAVE to have the ability to use the entire play-clock in some circumstances. The Griz would have won that game, PERIOD, had we used up more clock

Oh yeah I remember that game now, don't remember the play clock angle but I do remember Poly running all those option sweeps to the sidelines with no timeouts left and maybe us not punting when we should have(?) I remember Poly screwing up a bunch too in the 4th quarter, fielded or muffed a punt at the one and got called for a grounding safety the next play if I remember right...that game was a shitshow the 4th quarter, thanks for putting that disaster back in my head. :lol:

But I get your point, I see them doing the same thing in the pros at times at the end, I'm doing the math in my head if they snap at one or two seconds and they snap at 10...drives me nuts when they give the other team a minute at the end when it could have been 15 seconds.

 

[ORGUNGRIZ]

UDub 58. Score would be higher but 2nd 3rd string play most of 3rd qtr and all of 4th for UDub and a show of respect from Coach Smith.
Griz 14. Griz points come late in second half garbage time.

Thinking Griz nation after this game has more concerns of how this season really turns out.

 

[bigkid]

UM....21
uw....42

 

[Paytonlives]

Montana 78
Washington 108

Basketball???

 

[Man1]

That's a lame excuse. So it's impossible to practice 2 different offensive paces? Once you learn to run the hurry-up, you are locked into that pace and will be unable to run plays the way most of these guys have played their entire life? That is one-dimensional thinking and Stitt's refusal or inability to run a traditional offense to use the clock late in a game while leading cost us the Cal-Poly game 2 years ago. All we had to do was use the full play clock and Cal-Poly never would have got their last possession to win with 4 seconds left.

Not disagreeing with that, just saying you better make sure the game is really in hand before starting that because a lot of times it screws up your tempo and you can't do anything and the team behind can sneak back into it because it's not as easy as flipping a switch and getting it going again. I don't think it mattered against Valpo but others it might. EWU started it way too early against us and we made a game of it, can't remember the Poly game but you're probably right on that one.

Case in point: A&M game last night...watching them try to milk the clock was painful...and inevitably unsuccessful, despite their 34 point lead.

Milk the clock? They were still running hurry up half way through the 4th. Several plays where they snapped the ball with 20 secs on the play clock

 

[Grizo406]

We're gonna' get rolled.

 

[fanofzoo]

That's a lame excuse. So it's impossible to practice 2 different offensive paces? Once you learn to run the hurry-up, you are locked into that pace and will be unable to run plays the way most of these guys have played their entire life? That is one-dimensional thinking and Stitt's refusal or inability to run a traditional offense to use the clock late in a game while leading cost us the Cal-Poly game 2 years ago. All we had to do was use the full play clock and Cal-Poly never would have got their last possession to win with 4 seconds left.

Not disagreeing with that, just saying you better make sure the game is really in hand before starting that because a lot of times it screws up your tempo and you can't do anything and the team behind can sneak back into it because it's not as easy as flipping a switch and getting it going again. I don't think it mattered against Valpo but others it might. EWU started it way too early against us and we made a game of it, can't remember the Poly game but you're probably right on that one.

The griz had 2 possessions in the final 5 minute and didn't run the play-clock down to 1 second (they did slow down a bit, but still snapped the ball with 10-12 seconds for 2 straight drives and Poly kicked a long FG at the buzzer. You HAVE to have the ability to use the entire play-clock in some circumstances. The Griz would have won that game, PERIOD, had we used up more clock

Oh yeah I remember that game now, don't remember the play clock angle but I do remember Poly running all those option sweeps to the sidelines with no timeouts left and maybe us not punting when we should have(?) I remember Poly screwing up a bunch too in the 4th quarter, fielded or muffed a punt at the one and got called for a grounding safety the next play if I remember right...that game was a shitshow the 4th quarter, thanks for putting that disaster back in my head. :lol:

But I get your point, I see them doing the same thing in the pros at times at the end, I'm doing the math in my head if they snap at one or two seconds and they snap at 10...drives me nuts when they give the other team a minute at the end when it could have been 15 seconds.

We let the receiver go out of bounds for the next to last play, had we tackled him in bounds we win.