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Griz Asst BB Coach Arrested for DUI

By the way MJ16, Marso was offered the Asst. Coaching job by Tinks ahead of all of the other coaches in Montana because he is a better coach than any of them. D1 athletics is about winning and Marso provided the program with the best chance to do that, which is the reason he was hired.
 
Marso really needs to get things figured out. He is an embarassment to the coaches just as Montana Joe 16 is to the griz fans.
 
diacanthus said:
Marso really needs to get things figured out. He is an embarassment to the coaches just as Montana Joe 16 is to the griz fans.
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Pretty good assessment, especially the last part.
 
biggrizfan said:
I'm sure that you've never made a mistake, but for the rest of us who live in the real world, I think we all agree that people deserve second chances...and sometimes even third chances.
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I swear to God, if I hear this "Have you ever made a mistake, people deserve another chance" argument from one more person on this board in regards to these sorts of offenses, I may just scream.

This guy has had his chances. Are you saying the other multiple DUI offenders across this state deserve a second/third/eighth chance or just Marso, because as your screenname states you are a "big griz fan".

A second DUI (hell, a first DUI) would be unacceptable for a 20-year-old player, but Marso is a COACH. He should be out there setting an example for these kids but instead he is being the worse one of them all. Two DUIs in Missoula in four years, awesome.

Not saying MJ16's tone is right here, but at least when you sift through the name-calling, he has a valid point. This post, on the other hand, is absolute garbage. I do not understand how anyone can actually say that with a straight face.
 
If any of you have ever experienced this type of repeat dependent behavior you know that yes for a person to change he needs support, from friends and family, BUT as if not more important he /she needs stiff consequences for their actions. If we enable a dependent person we become part of the problem. I am not going to tell you Griz what to do but I do disagree with the position "if he is found guilty, we will be very disappointed" attitude the AD brought to this question.

Is it not a fact that Brian was found passed out in his running car slumped over the wheel and he failed to give a breathalyzer test! That where the the discipline should start.
 
Mslacat said:
If any of you have ever experienced this type of repeat dependent behavior you know that yes for a person to change he needs support, from friends and family, BUT as if not more important he /she needs stiff consequences for their actions. If we enable a dependent person we become part of the problem. I am not going to tell you Griz what to do but I do disagree with the position "if he is found guilty, we will be very disappointed" attitude the AD brought to this question.

Is it not a fact that Brian was found passed out in his running car slumped over the wheel and he failed to give a breathalyzer test! That where the the discipline should start.
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I made my position clear from the onset, but I am not running the program. I also must note Marso has not been convicted of anything, although it sure doesn't look good. If Tinks and O' Day have decided to support Marso, perhaps they have a lot more information that any of us are privvy to. :twocents:
 
no vendetta just disgusted in how this whole thing is being handled. as for Marso being better than native Montana coaches i doubt it. he coached at jucos before and had success but, lets look at juco ball here for a second. you can get anybody you want into school at a juco, (even ex-cons) it's easy to get great talent out of inner cities, and scheduling wise especially in the mid-west you can load up your schedule with small 4yr college j.v. teams and get a lot of easy wins. There are plenty of good coaches from Montana with college and h.s. experience that wanted a chance to apply for that job that didn't get that chance because it was handed to Marso and then he goes out and gets arrested for another DUI. He's had a 2nd chance and he blew it and the way they are handling it is b.s. In my opinion if wilson wasn't in jail right now he'd probably be starting at CB this year along with Marso being back in the bench in a couple of weeks. Maybe Marso has dirt on o'day and tinks but, either way by allowing him to say is wrong in my opinion.
Sending the wrong message in my opinion.
yes, i do drink but, i don't drink and drive and if i was coaching at the u of m i sure as hell wouldn't be getting hammered out in public on regular basis in the very town i coach in. these guys need to uphold the professional side of their job period and in my opinion they are not doing it. Just wait when MADD gets ahold of this info more bad press for the U and it's athletic programs. If i was in his shoes i'd resign. feel free to keep the insults coming grizbacker and diacanthus its nice to have a good laugh.
 
okay last blog for me on this matter.

1. sorry for any comments I made that offended anyone.

2. My comments have been based on factual things printed in the press and what I've seen with my own 2 eyes.

3. I don't think Grizbacker and others understand the severity of a 2nd dui arrest or a possible conviction which is likely to happen since Marso refused a Breathalyzer (which is seen as an admission of guilt in the courts eyes) Marso is very lucky that he lives in Montana because in other states like Washington and California if you get a 2nd DUI in 5 years or less your going to jail for a minimun of 30 days up to 6 months maximum. I think California may have upped their law to a minimum or 1 year to a max of 5 for 2nd offense in 5 or less. I know this information because, like I've stated before I had a friend killed by drunk driving, another was killed by a drunk driver, and I've been to a DUI victims panel for a class project in law school and I don't drink and drive because of those incidents and I have very low tolerance for repeat offenders. I would encourage you all to attend a victims panel it will shock what these people went through. Furthermore, if Mr. Marso wasn't doing anything wrong then why did he refuse the Breathalyzer? I can understand falling asleep at the wheel in drive thru at 4 a.m. by being tired but, if that's the case then why not give the Breathalyzer?

4. Due to the servitude of the DUI issue I think that Coach Tinkle and Mr. O'Day are dropping the ball on this issue. It is Coach Marso's 2nd arrested for DUI and lets face it the U of M hasn't had a great last couple of years when it comes to public realtions problems with athletes and now coaches violating the law. The Athletic department has showed they tolerate such behavior or they refuse to make a stand on misbehavior by its athletes and coaches. Mr. Marso should be given his walking papers because, in my opinion considering the circumstances it's the right thing to do.

5. The State of Montana has kept MADD at bay for a while but, they are coming hard after Montana for it's loose DUI laws in their opinion and when they do come don't be surprised for more embarrassment on this matter especially if Marso is allowed to stay on staff for this season. I understand the guy has due process rights and all that but, for about 99% of the employers out there, they can fire a employee for getting arrested whether they are convicted or not.

6. He needs to go and the athletic department needs establish a standard not a double standard for it's athletes and coaches when it comes to behavior and professionalism. That's it for me :thumb:
 
Montana Joe 16 said:
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Furthermore, if Mr. Marso wasn't doing anything wrong then why did he refuse the Breathalyzer? I can understand falling asleep at the wheel in drive thru at 4 a.m. by being tired but, if that's the case then why not give the Breathalyzer?
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You can be convicted of DUI being passed out in your car even if your not driving it.

As I stated in a post earlier in this thread, I was on a jury trying to determine the innocense or guiltiness of a person passed out in his car and he was convicted by all the members of the jury. The deciding factor was whether the key was in the ignition and car running. That is pretty much what the circumstances were according to the Missoulian with Marso - Passed out with car running.

But, I do agree about the breathalyzer, he should have taken it. I would have considered him guilty for refusing it. I consider refusing an admission of guilt. I think Marso better hope his case doesn't get to court. Another Alford Agreement maybe. But will a DA accept another Alford Agreement on a second offense?
 
Montana Joe 16 said:
okay last blog for me on this matter.

1. sorry for any comments I made that offended anyone.

2. My comments have been based on factual things printed in the press and what I've seen with my own 2 eyes.

3. I don't think Grizbacker and others understand the severity of a 2nd dui arrest or a possible conviction which is likely to happen since Marso refused a Breathalyzer (which is seen as an admission of guilt in the courts eyes) Marso is very lucky that he lives in Montana because in other states like Washington and California if you get a 2nd DUI in 5 years or less your going to jail for a minimun of 30 days up to 6 months maximum. I think California may have upped their law to a minimum or 1 year to a max of 5 for 2nd offense in 5 or less. I know this information because, like I've stated before I had a friend killed by drunk driving, another was killed by a drunk driver, and I've been to a DUI victims panel for a class project in law school and I don't drink and drive because of those incidents and I have very low tolerance for repeat offenders. I would encourage you all to attend a victims panel it will shock what these people went through. Furthermore, if Mr. Marso wasn't doing anything wrong then why did he refuse the Breathalyzer? I can understand falling asleep at the wheel in drive thru at 4 a.m. by being tired but, if that's the case then why not give the Breathalyzer?

4. Due to the servitude of the DUI issue I think that Coach Tinkle and Mr. O'Day are dropping the ball on this issue. It is Coach Marso's 2nd arrested for DUI and lets face it the U of M hasn't had a great last couple of years when it comes to public realtions problems with athletes and now coaches violating the law. The Athletic department has showed they tolerate such behavior or they refuse to make a stand on misbehavior by its athletes and coaches. Mr. Marso should be given his walking papers because, in my opinion considering the circumstances it's the right thing to do.

5. The State of Montana has kept MADD at bay for a while but, they are coming hard after Montana for it's loose DUI laws in their opinion and when they do come don't be surprised for more embarrassment on this matter especially if Marso is allowed to stay on staff for this season. I understand the guy has due process rights and all that but, for about 99% of the employers out there, they can fire a employee for getting arrested whether they are convicted or not.

6. He needs to go and the athletic department needs establish a standard not a double standard for it's athletes and coaches when it comes to behavior and professionalism. That's it for me :thumb:
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You are really starting to piss me off by MISREPRESENTING what I have posted. I was the 1st person to call for his termination if he was convicted of a second offense. The last time I checked Marso had not had his day in court yet.

You really are not fooling anyone acting like you are all innocent now. You have taken multiple cheapshots at me and YOU, and you alone, are the person who started the namecalling from your very first post. I doubt you are any newbie either. Your style is obviously that of someone who has been banned before. :loser:
 
Grizbacker1 said:
jdhog45 said:
Give the guy a break. Get him some counseling. Make him say he's sorry, fine him, suspend... But don't ruin his career, people make mistakes.
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If he got both as Griz Coach then he needs to go, plain and simple. Name a player that could remain on the team with two DUI's. There has to be accountability at all levels.
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Hey mj16,

Hey Einstein, have your momma read this to you because it is pretty clear from your moronic posts you cannot read, nor comprehend.
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Marso asked for a blood test, but they didn't give it to him. It used to be the law that you were entitled to a blood test if you asked for one, but that may no longer be the case. While I don't know, I think there's a decent chance he won't get convicted on this DUI.

I hope MontJoe 16 applies for a job at my firm or I run across him sometime, because I'll enjoy running him out the door. Self-righteous, a jerk, makes up stuff on a message board, doesn't know the basics about providing legal advice. Must be a huge loser and low life, and maybe not so bright.

Also, as to MJ16's comment ("Furthermore, if Mr. Marso wasn't doing anything wrong then why did he refuse the Breathalyzer?"), this is a pretty stupid comment for someone who is or has been a law student. This is what many lawyers routinely advise people--if you've had a few drinks or more and you think you're going to want to fight the DUI. A failure of the breath test is convincing evidence in court. Generally, you're better off to be fighting over whether the police had the right to stop the vehicle (if there's been a stop), and the specifics of the field test. Some people can't pass a field test when they're sober. Cops routinely put in their reports that the person smelled of alcohol, had bloodshot eyes, etc. That's virtually standard language is they're going to charge someone with a DUI. The downside of not taking the breathalizer is that you almost immediately lose your license, for six months I believe. It's possible to file some papers and fight to get the license back, in some circumstances, but it costs some money for legal fees and a positive result isn't assured.

Some of you seem to be hardasses on DUI's. Long prison terms, death penalty, losing your job, etc. Which is worse: driving after 5 beers, sleeping in your car with it running, driving 45 in a 25, driving 90 on the Interstate, driving on highways when you've been up for 24 hours, driving while talking on a cell phone, driving while text messaging? Most of the recent studies show that driving while talking on a cell phone impairs the driver as much or more than being a bit over the DUI line. See the articles in these links. Do any of you self-righteous types drive while talking on a cell phone?

http://unews.utah.edu/p/?r=062206-1

http://media.www.lsureveille.com/media/storage/paper868/news/2005/03/17/News/Study.Cell.Phone.Use.Hinders.Driving.Reactions-2052215.shtml
 
PlayerRep said:
Some of you seem to be hardasses on DUI's. Long prison terms, death penalty, losing your job, etc. Which is worse: driving after 5 beers, sleeping in your car with it running, driving 45 in a 25, driving 90 on the Interstate, driving on highways when you've been up for 24 hours, driving while talking on a cell phone, driving while text messaging? Most of the recent studies show that driving while talking on a cell phone impairs the driver as much or more than being a bit over the DUI line. See the articles in these links. Do any of you self-righteous types drive while talking on a cell phone?
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This post is absolutely absurd. Congrats.
 
good post PlayerRep, I think we should all wait until the facts about the case come out in court before convicting Marso and handing down the sentence, especially if he asked for a blood test, which you are allowed to request in Montana (and is in all cases more accurate than a breathalyzer), and was not allowed to receive one. If he was refused a blood test, I believe the case will be thrown out before it even goes to court. As bad as this looks and as bad as it probably was, I have seen and been personally involved in cases where the police department TOTALLY overstepped their bounds and abused their power, which may have been the case in this instance if Marso was refused the right to a blood test.
 
MJ16: you shouldn't talk about subjects that you don't know anything about, i.e. JUCO basketball. It doesn't do much for your credibility
 
Does anyone want to wager a bet as to when this incident occurred and whether Marso was passed out? The "facts" reported by the media are not correct.
 
Grizbacker keep your shirt on. If you feel I misunderstood comments i didn't. I got you and player rep mixed up. sorry. Your insults however are a prime example of Peter Pot calling Karl Kettle "black." That's okay though I don't take them personal.

Player Rep is your firm the same one that K. Reeves worked for in the Devil's Advocate? I didn't give any legal advice.

well put real world on Player reps comments.

biggriz fan,
My grandpa coached JUCO ball for 25 years in the midwest and I've had plenty of relatives that have played and coached at that level, so I'm pretty confident that I know a lot about JUCO ball probably more so than you. It's also clear you know very little about Montana State law. As of 2005 the cops don't need to give a blood test anymore. A lawsuit out of Lewiston changed that when a lady was pulled over after leaving a wedding reception becuase, she dropped a cig on herself while driving and abruptly pulled over. The police witnessed her impaired driving and stopped to investigate. The lady admitted she had a few drinks at the reception so they did the field sobriety test and she failed but, she was in high heels and in a formal dress. They asked her to take a Breathalyzer but, she refused and offered blood. So an ambulance came and took her blood and her BAC was below .12 and she was let go. 2 days later she developed an infection from the needle spot and a week later lost her arm. So she sued the state and won and thus no more blood tests rights. A few other cases have taken place which has changed what constitutes probable cause when it comes to a DUI investigation in Montana. Pretty much now a days the cops can arrest you for being near the controls of your car. You can be passed out in your car and your buddy can be a 1,000 yards away with the keys and if a cop comes by and investigates and finds you intoxicated he can arrest you for a DUI becuase, you were near the controls of the vehicle. I've seen cases where people were charges even after blowing a .05 in other states.
Bottom line is if you drink even 1 beer it's not a good idea in my opinion to get behind the wheel because, you can get pulled for just about anything and you're then giving up a lot of power and control. Marso should have figured this out after his first DUI and it's clear he didn't so he should lose his job for that and other reasons surrounding the arrest. My question to you is if he wasn't passed out then why did the people working at Taco bell have to call the police then? hmm intersting
 
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