Gresch's status v UNC

[alabamagrizzly]

Great win Griz. Enjoy it tonight but then it's time to start looking at Northern Colorado. Does anyone know how close Gresch was to playing today? Is there a chance he might be out next week also? I'd think Makena would fare better against UNC's D then NAU's but I'd still rather have Gresch in if he's fully healthy. Also, does Caleb Hill stay with the team after this year after Stitt has lost faith(I'm guessing) in his abilities to run this O?

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Great win Griz. Enjoy it tonight but then it's time to start looking at Northern Colorado. Does anyone know how close Gresch was to playing today? Is there a chance he might be out next week also? I'd think Makena would fare better against UNC's D then NAU's but I'd still rather have Gresch in if he's fully healthy. Also, does Caleb Hill stay with the team after this year after Stitt has lost faith(I'm guessing) in his abilities to run this O?

If Gresch is out I hope Stitt gives Hill a chance at redemption. I do think Gresch makes it back next week

 

[Diesel]

Calhoun’s health will be more of a concern than Gresh’s.
The arm or shoulder didn’t appear to have a slight injury. Alot of uncontrollable twitching of the hand after the hit and the way he held arm going in at half looked bad.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I think Gresch will be ready. As for Hill, don't hold your breath.

 

[George Ferguson]

Stitt said they knew all week Gresch wasn't going to play. His exact words in the presser tonight "You absolutely can't rush something like that (concussion)." I heard today, Gresch wanted badly to play, and felt he had passed concussion protocol. Say what you want about Stitt's X's and O's but it was obvious after listening to him talk tonight, he wasn't going to let Gresch on the field this week no matter what. Translation, he cares more about them then he does about himself. And before anyone fires back that that's what all coaches do nowadays, umm NO THEY DON'T. See Butch Jones at Tennessee, and a lot of other schools.

Also, if Gresch isn't 100 percent, has even a twinge of a headache, nausia, or anything else that's even close to consussion related, Stitt won't let him out there against Northern Colorado either, no matter what Gresch or the doctors say.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Stitt said they knew all week Gresch wasn't going to play. His exact words in the presser tonight "You absolutely can't rush something like that (concussion)." I heard today, Gresch wanted badly to play, and felt he had passed concussion protocol. Say what you want about Stitt's X's and O's but it was obvious after listening to him talk tonight, he wasn't going to let Gresch on the field this week no matter what. Translation, he cares more about them then he does about himself. And before anyone fires back that that's what all coaches do nowadays, umm NO THEY DON'T. See Butch Jones at Tennessee, and a lot of other schools.

Also, if Gresch isn't 100 percent, has even a twinge of a headache, nausia, or anything else that's even close to consussion related, Stitt won't let him out there against Northern Colorado either, no matter what Gresch or the doctors say.

The docs probably dont release him if he has sx as that is a primary component of passing concussion protocol.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Stitt said they knew all week Gresch wasn't going to play. His exact words in the presser tonight "You absolutely can't rush something like that (concussion)." I heard today, Gresch wanted badly to play, and felt he had passed concussion protocol. Say what you want about Stitt's X's and O's but it was obvious after listening to him talk tonight, he wasn't going to let Gresch on the field this week no matter what. Translation, he cares more about them then he does about himself. And before anyone fires back that that's what all coaches do nowadays, umm NO THEY DON'T. See Butch Jones at Tennessee, and a lot of other schools.

Also, if Gresch isn't 100 percent, has even a twinge of a headache, nausia, or anything else that's even close to consussion related, Stitt won't let him out there against Northern Colorado either, no matter what Gresch or the doctors say.

The docs probably dont release him if he has sx as that is a primary component of passing concussion protocol.

Root was saying he didn't pass the protocol in the pregame.

 

[George Ferguson]

Stitt said they knew all week Gresch wasn't going to play. His exact words in the presser tonight "You absolutely can't rush something like that (concussion)." I heard today, Gresch wanted badly to play, and felt he had passed concussion protocol. Say what you want about Stitt's X's and O's but it was obvious after listening to him talk tonight, he wasn't going to let Gresch on the field this week no matter what. Translation, he cares more about them then he does about himself. And before anyone fires back that that's what all coaches do nowadays, umm NO THEY DON'T. See Butch Jones at Tennessee, and a lot of other schools.

Also, if Gresch isn't 100 percent, has even a twinge of a headache, nausia, or anything else that's even close to consussion related, Stitt won't let him out there against Northern Colorado either, no matter what Gresch or the doctors say.

The docs probably dont release him if he has sx as that is a primary component of passing concussion protocol.

Root was saying he didn't pass the protocol in the pregame.

I know, I said "Gresch felt he had had passed"

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Calhoun’s health will be more of a concern than Gresh’s.
The arm or shoulder didn’t appear to have a slight injury. Alot of uncontrollable twitching of the hand after the hit and the way he held arm going in at half looked bad.

Calhoun's health is also definitely a concern but there is far better depth behind him then Gresch. I know a lot of folks have been big on Hill but playing in a game is far different then practice and spring scrums. 1-AA is also far different then JC where I didn't think he was that impressive there either.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Stitt said they knew all week Gresch wasn't going to play. His exact words in the presser tonight "You absolutely can't rush something like that (concussion)." I heard today, Gresch wanted badly to play, and felt he had passed concussion protocol. Say what you want about Stitt's X's and O's but it was obvious after listening to him talk tonight, he wasn't going to let Gresch on the field this week no matter what. Translation, he cares more about them then he does about himself. And before anyone fires back that that's what all coaches do nowadays, umm NO THEY DON'T. See Butch Jones at Tennessee, and a lot of other schools.

Also, if Gresch isn't 100 percent, has even a twinge of a headache, nausia, or anything else that's even close to consussion related, Stitt won't let him out there against Northern Colorado either, no matter what Gresch or the doctors say.

The docs probably dont release him if he has sx as that is a primary component of passing concussion protocol.

Root was saying he didn't pass the protocol in the pregame.

I know, I said "Gresch felt he had had passed"

I know what you are saying and you are right Stitt cares about his players. At the end you said "no matter what Gresch or the doctors say". I am just saying if the doctors pass him its because he is good to play and inherent in that would be that he is sx free and pass his cognitive and physical concussion testing. If Stitt wants to hold him out another week just to give him more recovery time I think that is great. Alabama said he actually didnt pass protocol so it doesnt really matter. Wasnt trying to give you a hard time

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Stitt said they knew all week Gresch wasn't going to play. His exact words in the presser tonight "You absolutely can't rush something like that (concussion)." I heard today, Gresch wanted badly to play, and felt he had passed concussion protocol. Say what you want about Stitt's X's and O's but it was obvious after listening to him talk tonight, he wasn't going to let Gresch on the field this week no matter what. Translation, he cares more about them then he does about himself. And before anyone fires back that that's what all coaches do nowadays, umm NO THEY DON'T. See Butch Jones at Tennessee, and a lot of other schools.

Also, if Gresch isn't 100 percent, has even a twinge of a headache, nausia, or anything else that's even close to consussion related, Stitt won't let him out there against Northern Colorado either, no matter what Gresch or the doctors say.

The docs probably dont release him if he has sx as that is a primary component of passing concussion protocol.

Root was saying he didn't pass the protocol in the pregame.

I know, I said "Gresch felt he had had passed"

Gotcha, I'd expect any athlete in his position to say the same thing. That's why it's the coach's responsibility to make the players health priority #1 and if there's any reason to believe that Gresch still won't be ready, then Makena or Hill need to make the start.

 

[AZDoc]

Stitt said they knew all week Gresch wasn't going to play. His exact words in the presser tonight "You absolutely can't rush something like that (concussion)." I heard today, Gresch wanted badly to play, and felt he had passed concussion protocol. Say what you want about Stitt's X's and O's but it was obvious after listening to him talk tonight, he wasn't going to let Gresch on the field this week no matter what. Translation, he cares more about them then he does about himself. And before anyone fires back that that's what all coaches do nowadays, umm NO THEY DON'T. See Butch Jones at Tennessee, and a lot of other schools.

Also, if Gresch isn't 100 percent, has even a twinge of a headache, nausia, or anything else that's even close to consussion related, Stitt won't let him out there against Northern Colorado either, no matter what Gresch or the doctors say.

The docs probably dont release him if he has sx as that is a primary component of passing concussion protocol.

Root was saying he didn't pass the protocol in the pregame.

I know, I said "Gresch felt he had had passed"

I work a lot with concussions...he probably passed the physical part but wasn’t at baseline for the other parts. Plus, usually takes 4-5 days if everything goes perfectly. He started on Wednesday(?) I think. If he’s symptom free this week and increasing his activity, he will play, as that’s how the protocol works

 

[PlayerRep]

Can't imagine Jensen won't be back next week.

Question: If Jensen hasn't passed the concussion protocol, can the coach override that? I assume the coach can't.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Can't imagine Jensen won't be back next week.

Question: If Jensen hasn't passed the concussion protocol, can the coach override that? I assume the coach can't.

High school I know a coach cant. College? I havent seen the policy but I am certain your assumption is correct and likely applies in the NFL as well

 

[George Ferguson]

Can't imagine Jensen won't be back next week.

Question: If Jensen hasn't passed the concussion protocol, can the coach override that? I assume the coach can't.

No he can't and actually from what I've heard about this situation, Stitt ir more apt to override it the other way and not let Gresch play even if he's cleared, if he's not comfortable with it. Stitt has said on and off the record he's not taking any chances with Gresch' or anyone's health.

 

[PlayerRep]

Can't imagine Jensen won't be back next week.

Question: If Jensen hasn't passed the concussion protocol, can the coach override that? I assume the coach can't.

No he can't and actually from what I've heard about this situation, Stitt ir more apt to override it the other way and not let Gresch play even if he's cleared, if he's not comfortable with it. Stitt has said on and off the record he's not taking any chances with Gresch' or anyone's health.

Okay, I now understand. Doesn't surprise me with Stitt. Great.

 

[AZDoc]

Can't imagine Jensen won't be back next week.

Question: If Jensen hasn't passed the concussion protocol, can the coach override that? I assume the coach can't.

No he can't and actually from what I've heard about this situation, Stitt ir more apt to override it the other way and not let Gresch play even if he's cleared, if he's not comfortable with it. Stitt has said on and off the record he's not taking any chances with Gresch' or anyone's health.

Okay, I now understand. Doesn't surprise me with Stitt. Great.

I love hearing that. Health is much more important long term. I’m fairly certain even in the nfl they can’t override protocol, especially now. 10 years ago certainly. There theoretically could be certain ways around it...and I’d bet at times some players/coaches/docs figure out ways to “speed up” the process in the nfl.
I know in college, coaches, trainers, and docs are in constant contact about it. It really is a protocol/process and if you just google it, there is a minimum timeframe. We want the players to advance slowly, so usually they do 1 per day and can’t advance unless they are symptom free while doing that aspect. Saturday warm ups was probably his “sport specific drills” portion.
Also understand, we are just talking about his physical portion. There is a mental portion. If he’s struggling concentrating in class, that’s a ding too...and he doesn’t advance through the protocol .

 

[NendzoneGRIZ]

Jensen will play he couldn't have been in pads and on the sidelines today if he hadn't passed the protocol with the doctors

 

[dupuyer griz]

Can't imagine Jensen won't be back next week.

Question: If Jensen hasn't passed the concussion protocol, can the coach override that? I assume the coach can't.

As a former coach, there is no way in hell, with the litigious nature of our country I could see a coach in his right mind doing that.


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