Gregorak's coaching cost Griz the win versus Poly

[helenagrizfan#1]

I just watched the replay on Altitude of the last 10 minutes of the Cal Poly game. It clearly shows that Ty's lack of coaching his defenders in the final minute cost us the game, contrary to what Playa Rape lied about to protect his coaching buddy.

Playa accuses me of making up stuff, but it is HE who is caught making up stuff. I encourage any fan who TIVO'ed the game to watch the final two minutes. At the 0.34 minute mark, POLY was still 15 -18 yards away from trying a 49-yard FG for the win. They had no way to stop the clock, having used all 3 TOs. The ONLY way they could hope to stop the clock long enough to get their FG unit into the game, was to go out-of-bounds.

If they force the Poly QB to run the ball, instead of pitching it wide so that the back could go out-of-bounds to stop the clock, the game is over.... with the clock running and with no way to get the FG team on the field. But, instead of calling a TO, and instructing his defenders to take away the pitch thus preventing the RB from stopping the clock, he watches from the sideline while Poly ran three consecutive outside pitch plays, each gaining 4-7 yards, stopping the clock, and getting them into FG position. None of them took more that 6-7 seconds. Any play being stopped in the playing field ends the game. PERIOD!

Playa Rape made excuses for not keeping the runner in-bounds by saying that the Poly WR's took the CBs deep. This is simply not true. Watch the re-play, as I did over-and-over again. Key on what the wide receivers were doing on the last three plays before the FG. They were blocking for the pitch back, and NOT going down the field. Ty blew it. Any D-coordinator worth his salt would have called TO to make sure his charges knew what to do, instead of just allowing Poly to do the same thing 3 straight downs to get them into position for the game-winning FG. Just sayin'.

So since you've blamed everyone on the loss yesterday and you know so much about offense, defense, and special teams, I expect your name to be one the top of the list when the next coach is hired. With you being all the coaches, the athletic department will be able to offer cost of attendance to the athletes since you're the only coach.

 

[grizare#1]

I agree, what a dumb ass thread.
You win as a team, you lose as a team. The Defense was better Saturday then was the Offense. Just watched the game on Altitude and it was tough to watch knowing what was coming but it was a tough fought game by both sides. A classic of whoever has the ball last wins. There were lots of mistakes on both sides of the ball against a very good team. The first drive for the Griz after the half looked like the Griz last week.
I really like this team and coaching staff. I think the Griz right now are somewhere between last weeks game and this weeks, good but with lots of growing to do and I feel they will get it figured out before conf play starts. BSC is going to damn tough this year, just look at this last weekends scores.

GO GRIZ

 

[NativeGriz]

I saw the title and decided not to read anything because the title told me everything about the author. The D bailed us out numerous times in the 2nd half. This game does not fall on the D. Sorry if someone else already addressed.

 

[ilovethecats]

ty is great. your defense is great. uke:

if your offense gets it clicking you'll be right where you wanna be. what's the problem?

 

[PlayerRep]

Several things could have cost us the win throughout the game. Pick your poison. Get over it.

Understood. But it does not negate the fact that a great D-coordinator would have not stood by with 2 time outs and allowed Poly to run the same outside pitch play three consecutive times to get them into position for the win, when ANY tackle in the field of play ends the game. Think about it! This is the little stuff that most fans gloss over, but which separates the great D-coordinators from the wannabees.

"Same outside pitch 3 times in a row?" Pretty funny. Similar play run 3 times in 11 plays, none of which were consecutive. Yes, UM should have protected again the wide play, and given up 8 pass plays. It's clear you never played, or even learned, the game. Mr. JV baseball himself, reporting on Griz football, at age 66.

 

[PlayerRep]

Still got a first down (bailed out by personal foul), and not keeping Poly inbounds was rediculous. ...If told Gamboa or KVA easily could have over played pitch, forcing QB to keep.

How do you keep CP inbounds on 5 yard runs? Just curious. Tell us about the defense you would run, and how you would do it. Would you care about a 10 yard pass down the middle. Again, just curious. Put up or shut up.

 

[PlayerRep]

I just watched the replay on Altitude of the last 10 minutes of the Cal Poly game. It clearly shows that Ty's lack of coaching his defenders in the final minute cost us the game, contrary to what Playa Rape lied about to protect his coaching buddy.

Playa accuses me of making up stuff, but it is HE who is caught making up stuff. I encourage any fan who TIVO'ed the game to watch the final two minutes. At the 0.34 minute mark, POLY was still 15 -18 yards away from trying a 49-yard FG for the win. They had no way to stop the clock, having used all 3 TOs. The ONLY way they could hope to stop the clock long enough to get their FG unit into the game, was to go out-of-bounds.

If they force the Poly QB to run the ball, instead of pitching it wide so that the back could go out-of-bounds to stop the clock, the game is over.... with the clock running and with no way to get the FG team on the field. But, instead of calling a TO, and instructing his defenders to take away the pitch thus preventing the RB from stopping the clock, he watches from the sideline while Poly ran three consecutive outside pitch plays, each gaining 4-7 yards, stopping the clock, and getting them into FG position. None of them took more that 6-7 seconds. Any play being stopped in the playing field ends the game. PERIOD!

Playa Rape made excuses for not keeping the runner in-bounds by saying that the Poly WR's took the CBs deep. This is simply not true. Watch the re-play, as I did over-and-over again. Key on what the wide receivers were doing on the last three plays before the FG. They were blocking for the pitch back, and NOT going down the field. Ty blew it. Any D-coordinator worth his salt would have called TO to make sure his charges knew what to do, instead of just allowing Poly to do the same thing 3 straight downs to get them into position for the game-winning FG. Just sayin'.

The commentator mention this exact concept during the last play or two.

Yes he did. He was a previous coach, and kept saying that the Griz should force the QB to keep the ball instead of pitching, thus forcing him to run inside, and when tackled, the time would expire before Poly could get the FG team on the field. Not too difficult to understand, except for the pedestrian clan.

None of the plays at the end were true options. The ball went wide, as CP was planning to run out of bounds. There was no way to take the pitch man and force the qb to run.

 

[George Ferguson]

Does anyone else find it ironic that ATL has absolutely BLASTED Delaney on here for three years (when he wasn't banned) and is now using what he said on the broadcast, callin ghim a "former coach" for his argument as to why Ty supposedly blew it????

 

[Inland NW Griz]

I seem to remember a goal line stand and a safety that gave the Griz a chance to to win, but that's just me. If the offense could convert in the redzone, no one would be talking about this. Sh!t, if they could even pick up a yard or so in crunch time it wouldn't be a topic. Short yardage is going to a problem with this defense all year because they lack beef. But they did plenty to win this game. The offense sh!t the bed.

 

[PlayerRep]

Still got a first down (bailed out by personal foul), and not keeping Poly inbounds was rediculous. ...If told Gamboa or KVA easily could have over played pitch, forcing QB to keep.

Ursus, you are out to lunch.

 

[ilovethecats]

Still got a first down (bailed out by personal foul), and not keeping Poly inbounds was rediculous. ...If told Gamboa or KVA easily could have over played pitch, forcing QB to keep.

How do you keep CP inbounds on 5 yard runs? Just curious. Tell us about the defense you would run, and how you would do it. Would you care about a 10 yard pass down the middle. Again, just curious. Put up or shut up.

jack and i haven't always seen eye to eye but this is correct. keeping a guy from reaching the sideline isn't easy...it's football.

that said, when one of you comes up with the secret solution, please tell d coordinators everywhere. i have a feeling if we can keep guys from getting to the sidelines, there's no way we'll let them get in the endzones from 10 yards and in. it will be revolutionary.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

Does anyone else find it ironic that ATL has absolutely BLASTED Delaney on here for three years (when he wasn't banned) and is now using what he said on the broadcast, callin ghim a "former coach" for his argument as to why Ty supposedly blew it????

You really are a stupid moutha ain't you? You insist on mis-quoting me, in your desperate and pathetic attempt to discredit me, but it never works. Did I say it was Delaney who said it? No, I didn't. The other announcer, who had stated earlier that he was previously a college coach, said it, NOT DELANEY. So, another helping of crow for you? You prefer it boiled or fried?

 

[indian-outlaw]

wolfman, buddy, the clock stops to move the chains on a first down which is what would happen if you don't force the qb to pitch the ball. Everyone except the griz coaches from the 90's who were torched by Georgia Southern knows this. Brint is right on this one for sure. Brown would have eaten up big chunks on keepers in a real hurry if he wasn't forced to pitch the ball.

 

[PlayerRep]

I agree, what a dumb ass thread.
You win as a team, you lose as a team. The Defense was better Saturday then was the Offense. Just watched the game on Altitude and it was tough to watch knowing what was coming but it was a tough fought game by both sides. A classic of whoever has the ball last wins. There were lots of mistakes on both sides of the ball against a very good team. The first drive for the Griz after the half looked like the Griz last week.
I really like this team and coaching staff. I think the Griz right now are somewhere between last weeks game and this weeks, good but with lots of growing to do and I feel they will get it figured out before conf play starts. BSC is going to damn tough this year, just look at this last weekends scores.

GO GRIZ

Nice post. Good to see a post from someone who understands the game of football.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

Still got a first down (bailed out by personal foul), and not keeping Poly inbounds was rediculous. ...If told Gamboa or KVA easily could have over played pitch, forcing QB to keep.

Ursus, you are out to lunch.

No. He just knows football, and doesn't try to cover for coaching gaffs like you do, just like the way you tried to cover for all of Hauck's criminals when they got arrested. We can all see right through you.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

wolfman, buddy, the clock stops to move the chains on a first down which is what would happen if you don't force the qb to pitch the ball. Everyone except the griz coaches from the 90's who were torched by Georgia Southern knows this. Brint is right on this one for sure. Brown would have eaten up big chunks on keepers in a real hurry if he wasn't forced to pitch the ball.

Oh Bullsh*t! He didn't gain more than 5 yards on any carry the entire second half. Why would he suddenly become Michael Vick. I thought you were smarter than this. Obviously not.

 

[PlayerRep]

Still got a first down (bailed out by personal foul), and not keeping Poly inbounds was rediculous. ...If told Gamboa or KVA easily could have over played pitch, forcing QB to keep.

How do you keep CP inbounds on 5 yard runs? Just curious. Tell us about the defense you would run, and how you would do it. Would you care about a 10 yard pass down the middle. Again, just curious. Put up or shut up.

jack and i haven't always seen eye to eye but this is correct. keeping a guy from reaching the sideline isn't easy...it's football.

that said, when one of you comes up with the secret solution, please tell d coordinators everywhere. i have a feeling if we can keep guys from getting to the sidelines, there's no way we'll let them get in the endzones from 10 yards and in. it will be revolutionary.

Some of the egriz posters like this one truly don't have a clue about the game. It makes me chuckle when some Cat posters, who may not particularly like my posting, finally have to jump in to provide a bit of football knowledge to subjects like this. Jeez, how dumb are some of these Griz posters. They embarrass Griz nation.

 

[George Ferguson]

I'm not trying to discredit you wolfman. But it WAS IN FACT Mick who commented that the Griz need to force Poly to the inside.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

I agree, what a dumb ass thread.
You win as a team, you lose as a team. The Defense was better Saturday then was the Offense. Just watched the game on Altitude and it was tough to watch knowing what was coming but it was a tough fought game by both sides. A classic of whoever has the ball last wins. There were lots of mistakes on both sides of the ball against a very good team. The first drive for the Griz after the half looked like the Griz last week.
I really like this team and coaching staff. I think the Griz right now are somewhere between last weeks game and this weeks, good but with lots of growing to do and I feel they will get it figured out before conf play starts. BSC is going to damn tough this year, just look at this last weekends scores.

GO GRIZ

Nice post. Good to see a post from someone who understands the game of football.

No, he just talked in generalities about each team making lots of mistakes. I'm quite sure he sings Kumbaya and sports a Coexist sticker on his car too. but that dowsn't change the fact that Ty could have ended the game with no try for a FG, if he had known what to do, instead of sitting by and letting it happen like it did.

 

[PlayerRep]

wolfman, buddy, the clock stops to move the chains on a first down which is what would happen if you don't force the qb to pitch the ball. Everyone except the griz coaches from the 90's who were torched by Georgia Southern knows this. Brint is right on this one for sure. Brown would have eaten up big chunks on keepers in a real hurry if he wasn't forced to pitch the ball.

Oh Bullsh*t! He didn't gain more than 5 yards on any carry the entire second half. Why would he suddenly become Michael Vick. I thought you were smarter than this. Obviously not.

If the player assigned to mark Brown had decided to jump wide to stop the pitchman from going out of bounds, Brown would have cut up field for big yards. You really don't understand the game, do you? If you had ever played football, you would understand basics like this. I have never heard of a team deciding to just defend the sideline--and letting the other team's qb and running back run straight up field for big yardage. Seems like a dumb strategy to me.