Good Job Coach Stitt! Like my 5th grade football coach used to say...

[Fahque]

Sorry, but if we have reached a point where a player getting in a fight (which this wasn’t much of one) is an earth-shattering event, then this program has fallen in more ways than one.

You guys should have been in around the team in the mid to late 90’s.

I understand “cleaning up the program” needed to happen, but now we are going too far the other direction. If you want a bunch of soft, panty waist kids you can go watch Hellgate High play on Friday night for free.

I was at UM from 92-97. The guys I ran around with that played for the GRIZ were by no means "a bunch of soft, panty waist kids!" Even though some WERE from Hellgate, haha! They were quite the contrary- honor students, stalwart citizens and National Champs! None of them ever got thrown in jail for any of this kind of stuff. A clean program by NO MEANS equates to a weak program. But, not having the internet to dig up every little thing did help :thumb:

I think the point is that back then people didn't get thrown in jail or slapped with a fine for every little thing that happened like they do today. Shit still happened back then they just didn't get arrested for all of it.

 

[UMGriz75]

I was around and was thinking the same thing. People are becoming so ultra sensitive and judgemental this day and age, it's a little scary, and sad.

Speech codes, star chambers, zero tolerance. It's a new Victorian Age.

Of course, the "new rules" do not apply to social justice warriors. That's different.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

I was around and was thinking the same thing. People are becoming so ultra sensitive and judgemental this day and age, it's a little scary, and sad.

Speech codes, star chambers, zero tolerance. It's a new Victorian Age.

Of course, the "new rules" do not apply to social justice warriors. That's different.

That's horseshit and you know it, '75.

Intolerance is no different on the left than it is on the right. I'm left of center on plenty of issues, but I fully admit that many lefties are just as close-minded as the people they criticize for being close-minded. Maybe even more so.

People of all stripes need to be more tolerant and less judgmental.

 

[firmgriz]

Sorry, but if we have reached a point where a player getting in a fight (which this wasn’t much of one) is an earth-shattering event, then this program has fallen in more ways than one.

You guys should have been in around the team in the mid to late 90’s.

I understand “cleaning up the program” needed to happen, but now we are going too far the other direction. If you want a bunch of soft, panty waist kids you can go watch Hellgate High play on Friday night for free.

I was at UM from 92-97. The guys I ran around with that played for the GRIZ were by no means "a bunch of soft, panty waist kids!" Even though some WERE from Hellgate, haha! They were quite the contrary- honor students, stalwart citizens and National Champs! None of them ever got thrown in jail for any of this kind of stuff. A clean program by NO MEANS equates to a weak program. But, not having the internet to dig up every little thing did help :thumb:

I see what you did there. Cinturon! :thumb:

 

[Mousegriz]

Obviously you've never played before , or you would no what a team activitie is ! Typical lawyer who doesn't no Jack![/quote]

"Know" (not "No") and "Activity" (not "Activitie"). Nebraska also has that "N" on their helmets that stands for "Knowledge"......Nice couple sentences there Catsack!

 

[Griz2k]

I was around and was thinking the same thing. People are becoming so ultra sensitive and judgemental this day and age, it's a little scary, and sad.

Speech codes, star chambers, zero tolerance. It's a new Victorian Age.

Of course, the "new rules" do not apply to social justice warriors. That's different.

That's horseshit and you know it, '75.

Intolerance is no different on the left than it is on the right. I'm left of center on plenty of issues, but I fully admit that many lefties are just as close-minded as the people they criticize for being close-minded. Maybe even more so.

People of all stripes need to be more tolerant and less judgmental.

Well crap, if that's the case, Chris might as well shut this site down!

 

[SoldierGriz]

Come on. Fair or not, what you old jocks and wannabees consider tough, what used to be ok and accepted----the reality of the situation is that our football players cant be so stupid and irresponsible in this day and age. They have to understand accountability and the real world--however jaded. Have a few drinks and pick a fight you pay the price when the cops come. Lets get over it. We have no leeway. Thank god we don't get an investigation by the Department of Education or the ASPCA and have to confess judgment on a whole new set of beer party rules.

Discipline, accountability and consequences. Old world values that are not so bad. This is what will bring the program back, not a bunch of whining or excuses .

Good grief....typical, major league over reaction here on egriz. Old world values used to include young men fighting. It was a fight between young men at a party. Big deal. Move on. The program is fine and trajectory is good.

 

[Hells bells]

As I said, alot of Cat posters are idiots. Let us know who's willing to bet $100 on whether, in the UM athletic code, "suspension from team activities" equals "suspension from scheduled contests" (i.e. suspensions from games). Send your $100 to Titleist, and I will do the same. Then, I'll produce an email from the athletic department backing up my view.

How about taking the bet to a "whoever loses cannot post on egriz for a year? :shock: :thumb:

 

[ButteRatGriz]

Sorry, but if we have reached a point where a player getting in a fight (which this wasn’t much of one) is an earth-shattering event, then this program has fallen in more ways than one.

You guys should have been in around the team in the mid to late 90’s.

I understand “cleaning up the program” needed to happen, but now we are going too far the other direction. If you want a bunch of soft, panty waist kids you can go watch Hellgate High play on Friday night for free.

I was at UM from 92-97. The guys I ran around with that played for the GRIZ were by no means "a bunch of soft, panty waist kids!" Even though some WERE from Hellgate, haha! They were quite the contrary- honor students, stalwart citizens and National Champs! None of them ever got thrown in jail for any of this kind of stuff. A clean program by NO MEANS equates to a weak program. But, not having the internet to dig up every little thing did help :thumb:

I see what you did there. Cinturon! :thumb:

I gotta get my jabs in when I can!

 

[grizindabox]

So let me get this straight...the broad Tier III statement "suspension from team activities" does not include games because the more specific Tier II statement "suspension from scheduled contests" take precedent? So "suspension from team activities" does not mean "all" just the "selected" activities?

Funny, it just seems to me that "suspension from team activities" gives more leeway for Tier III punishment but would not discount the possibility of a game while the "suspension from scheduled contests" pretty much makes it a standard for Tier II punishment...

 

[PlayerRep]

So let me get this straight...the broad Tier III statement "suspension from team activities" does not include games because the more specific Tier II statement "suspension from scheduled contests" take precedent? So "suspension from team activities" does not mean "all" just the "selected" activities?

Funny, it just seems to me that "suspension from team activities" gives more leeway for Tier III punishment but would not discount the possibility of a game while the "suspension from scheduled contests" pretty much makes it a standard for Tier II punishment...

Correct, "team activities" does not include "games". Team activities does not include "practice activities" either. Team activities, practice activities, and games/contests are separate categories of possible punishment. Don't know why its so hard for some of you to understand that. Have you ever heard someone ask a player whether he's suiting up for the team activity involving the Saturday game?

 

[mtgrizrule]

For the saints and old schoolers out there, I guarantee even those championship teams had their fair share of questionable activity and misbehaving. The difference these days is technology. I can recall a few good sized parties (20+ people) with quite a few GRIZ players in the mid to late 90's. Yes, there were some not good decisions made by those players at those parties. Those guys knew how to party and have a great time!

 

[grizindabox]

So let me get this straight...the broad Tier III statement "suspension from team activities" does not include games because the more specific Tier II statement "suspension from scheduled contests" take precedent? So "suspension from team activities" does not mean "all" just the "selected" activities?

Funny, it just seems to me that "suspension from team activities" gives more leeway for Tier III punishment but would not discount the possibility of a game while the "suspension from scheduled contests" pretty much makes it a standard for Tier II punishment...

Correct, "team activities" does not include "games". Team activities does not include "practice activities" either. Team activities, practice activities, and games/contests are separate categories of possible punishment. Don't know why its so hard for some of you to understand that. Have you ever heard someone ask a player whether he's suiting up for the team activity involving the Saturday game?

So this must not be a first offense for Gamboa?

 

[grizcountry420]

For the saints and old schoolers out there, I guarantee even those championship teams had their fair share of questionable activity and misbehaving. The difference these days is technology. I can recall a few good sized parties (20+ people) with quite a few GRIZ players in the mid to late 90's. Yes, there were some not good decisions made by those players at those parties. Those guys knew how to party and have a great time!

The only thing that saved their bacon was there was no social media back then but i know what you are saying. I hung out with quite a few players on that 2001 team and they weren't saints at all..

:lol:

 

[PlayerRep]

So let me get this straight...the broad Tier III statement "suspension from team activities" does not include games because the more specific Tier II statement "suspension from scheduled contests" take precedent? So "suspension from team activities" does not mean "all" just the "selected" activities?

Funny, it just seems to me that "suspension from team activities" gives more leeway for Tier III punishment but would not discount the possibility of a game while the "suspension from scheduled contests" pretty much makes it a standard for Tier II punishment...

Correct, "team activities" does not include "games". Team activities does not include "practice activities" either. Team activities, practice activities, and games/contests are separate categories of possible punishment. Don't know why its so hard for some of you to understand that. Have you ever heard someone ask a player whether he's suiting up for the team activity involving the Saturday game?

So this must not be a first offense for Gamboa?

Not necessarily (and note that it's a two year period for infractions). He was punished for violation of "team and athletic rules", according to the original Missoulian blurb. My guess is that Stitt imposed the one-game suspension for violation of teams rules--or Stitt and the committee may have essentially jointly decided to impose the suspension. A coach can certainly do what he wants, above and beyond the rules/procedures of the athletic code of conduct. It seemed that most posters expected him to get a one-game suspension, so it's not like this was a big surprise.

 

[zengriz]

...stepping up...
...what it's all about...
...unfortunate early opportunity...

... :rule: ...

 

[grizindabox]

So let me get this straight...the broad Tier III statement "suspension from team activities" does not include games because the more specific Tier II statement "suspension from scheduled contests" take precedent? So "suspension from team activities" does not mean "all" just the "selected" activities?

Funny, it just seems to me that "suspension from team activities" gives more leeway for Tier III punishment but would not discount the possibility of a game while the "suspension from scheduled contests" pretty much makes it a standard for Tier II punishment...

Correct, "team activities" does not include "games". Team activities does not include "practice activities" either. Team activities, practice activities, and games/contests are separate categories of possible punishment. Don't know why its so hard for some of you to understand that. Have you ever heard someone ask a player whether he's suiting up for the team activity involving the Saturday game?

So this must not be a first offense for Gamboa?

Not necessarily (and note that it's a two year period for infractions). He was punished for violation of "team and athletic rules", according to the original Missoulian blurb. My guess is that Stitt imposed the one-game suspension for violation of teams rules--or Stitt and the committee may have essentially jointly decided to impose the suspension. A coach can certainly do what he wants, above and beyond the rules/procedures of the athletic code of conduct. It seemed that most posters expected him to get a one-game suspension, so it's not like this was a big surprise.

So you really have no clue...just making assumptions...like everyone thought

 

[PlayerRep]

Box, I know alot more than you do, including what the Athletic Code of Conduct says and what generally occurred at the house that evening.

 

[grizindabox]

Box, I know alot more than you do, including what the Athletic Code of Conduct says and what generally occurred at the house that evening.

So you are making no assumptions....zero...


by the way, I did not once post that I was in the know on this event...not once...

 

[PlayerRep]

Box, I know alot more than you do, including what the Athletic Code of Conduct says and what generally occurred at the house that evening.

So you are making no assumptions....zero...


by the way, I did not once post that I was in the know on this event...not once...

When I make assumptions, I usually state that. I didn't say you were in the know; I just said I knew more than you did.