Good Coaches

[uptopgriz]

All of these coaches you listed are average.

Oh man you are delusional.

This is what superior coaching looks like. No wonder you think an 8 and 5 season is a success.
Playoffs % Titles
Bill Belichick 31 13 .705 6 super bowls
Joe Gibbs 17 7 .708 3 super bowls
Chuck Noll 16 8 .667 4 super bowls
Tom Coughlin 12 7 .632 2 super bowls
Bill Walsh 10 4 .714 3 super bowls
George Seifert 10 5 .667 2 super bowls

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Oh man you are delusional.

This is what superior coaching looks like. No wonder you think an 8 and 5 season is a success.
Playoffs % Titles
Bill Belichick 31 13 .705 6 super bowls
Joe Gibbs 17 7 .708 3 super bowls
Chuck Noll 16 8 .667 4 super bowls
Tom Coughlin 12 7 .632 2 super bowls
Bill Walsh 10 4 .714 3 super bowls
George Seifert 10 5 .667 2 super bowls

Huh, who exactly posted that they thought an 8 win Griz season was successful in 2022?

 

[uptopgriz]

This is what superior coaching looks like. No wonder you think an 8 and 5 season is a success.
Playoffs % Titles
Bill Belichick 31 13 .705 6 super bowls
Joe Gibbs 17 7 .708 3 super bowls
Chuck Noll 16 8 .667 4 super bowls
Tom Coughlin 12 7 .632 2 super bowls
Bill Walsh 10 4 .714 3 super bowls
George Seifert 10 5 .667 2 super bowls

Huh, who exactly posted that they thought an 8 win Griz season was successful in 2022?

Hoops thinks its a very good season.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Huh, who exactly posted that they thought an 8 win Griz season was successful in 2022?

Hoops thinks its a very good season.

Now think about your answer and then the effort put forth to argue with him.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Hoops thinks its a very good season.

Now think about your answer and then the effort put forth to argue with him.

Uptop thinks conference rank is more important than playoff wins and appearances. Of course, I never said last fall was a "very good season". I said the season was disappointing.

 

[uptopgriz]

Now think about your answer and then the effort put forth to argue with him.

Uptop thinks conference rank is more important than playoff wins and appearances. Of course, I never said last fall was a "very good season". I said the season was disappointing.

Hoops argues that an 8-5 season is a success.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

No I'm saying that Harbaugh has similar credentials. Do honestly read what you write? It is all so nonsensical.

Keep in mind...Some folks hit the prior to posting.

Maybe his name should be bottomsupgriz Also, some purposefully sound like idiots cus, well, they are born that way.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Uptop thinks conference rank is more important than playoff wins and appearances. Of course, I never said last fall was a "very good season". I said the season was disappointing.

Hoops argues that an 8-5 season is a success.

Feel free to point out where I said 8-5 was "success", or a "very good season". Let's bet $250 that you can't find where I said that since the season ended.

 

[UncleRico]

Oh man you are delusional.

This is what superior coaching looks like. No wonder you think an 8 and 5 season is a success.
Playoffs % Titles
Bill Belichick 31 13 .705 6 super bowls
Joe Gibbs 17 7 .708 3 super bowls
Chuck Noll 16 8 .667 4 super bowls
Tom Coughlin 12 7 .632 2 super bowls
Bill Walsh 10 4 .714 3 super bowls
George Seifert 10 5 .667 2 super bowls

Walsh hasn't coached for 35 years, Noll 32 years, Seiifert 23 years, Gibbs 16 years since 2nd stint that didn't go well. Yes all legends. But in your rational the only above average coach today in the NFL is Belichick. Gibbs, Coughlin, Noll all have lower overall winning percentage than Harbaugh, Andy Reid and Tomlin. Belichick has a losing record with out Brady. Walsh closed his career with two losing seasons at Stanford. All are among the greatest coaches ever but they had some tough years. Then we have Reid who anyone that understands football knows the guy is an offensive genius..yes GREAT coach. Tomlin 16 years without a losing season..yes GREAT coach. And Harbaugh whose teams are always physical and he was smart enough to change the offense away from traditional NFL offense to get the most out of Lamar. Yes GREAT coach. Sean Payton is also a GREAT coach and his payoff record is 9-8. I understand now why you are so unrealistic about Griz football.

 

[goatcreekgriz]

Uptop thinks conference rank is more important than playoff wins and appearances. Of course, I never said last fall was a "very good season". I said the season was disappointing.

Hoops argues that an 8-5 season is a success.

Larry Donovan was the coach during my entire time as a student at UM. In six seasons, his teams never achieved 8 victories. In those six seasons, the Griz made it to one playoff game (and lost to Idaho).

It’s all relative. Griz fans became spoiled. Hauck is a very good coach. He has served UM very well.

 

[Griz Addict]

Dude whines because we haven't won 30 championships 1000 conf titles and undefeated since Bobby's return. Until that happens he's a horrible coach* still would bitch about 29 because it's not 30.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Dude whines because we haven't won 30 championships 1000 conf titles and undefeated since Bobby's return. Until that happens he's a horrible coach* still would bitch about 29 because it's not 30.

It’s a plain fact if his last name wasn’t Hauck he’d be gone. 7-4, 4-4 in conference and 1-3 against the ‘Scats in year 5 wouldn’t cut it with ANY other head coach.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Dude whines because we haven't won 30 championships 1000 conf titles and undefeated since Bobby's return. Until that happens he's a horrible coach* still would bitch about 29 because it's not 30.

It’s a plain fact if his last name wasn’t Hauck he’d be gone. 7-4, 4-4 in conference and 1-3 against the ‘Scats in year 5 wouldn’t cut it with ANY other head coach.

Is it....

 

[kemajic]

Hoops argues that an 8-5 season is a success.

Larry Donovan was the coach during my entire time as a student at UM. In six seasons, his teams never achieved 8 victories. In those six seasons, the Griz made it to one playoff game (and lost to Idaho).

It’s all relative. Griz fans became spoiled. Hauck is a very good coach. He has served UM very well.

I was there for the Hugh Davidson years. It took all his three years to get 8 wins, total.

 

[uptopgriz]

Hoops argues that an 8-5 season is a success.

Larry Donovan was the coach during my entire time as a student at UM. In six seasons, his teams never achieved 8 victories. In those six seasons, the Griz made it to one playoff game (and lost to Idaho).

It’s all relative. Griz fans became spoiled. Hauck is a very good coach. He has served UM very well.

Griz fans are spoiled because they have expectations?

 

[Bok_Choi]

Hoops argues that an 8-5 season is a success.

Larry Donovan was the coach during my entire time as a student at UM. In six seasons, his teams never achieved 8 victories. In those six seasons, the Griz made it to one playoff game (and lost to Idaho).

It’s all relative. Griz fans became spoiled. Hauck is a very good coach. He has served UM very well.

Relative for sure. In the 23 or four seasons between Don Read and the end of Hauck's first go-round, they won eight out of ten games, umpteen consecutive and overall wins over bozeman, with a couple of national titles sprinkled in. I'd hold my hand up as guilty for the part about being spoiled. I think it's what makes the job there so incredibly difficult. Imagine the pressure on the Lady Griz head ball coach after a run like Selvig's. Expectations off the charts. Yet there are people who want that kind of challenge.

Minus the number of guys on a side, the size of the field and the length of the game, It's not football like it was then. If it were only about the X's & O's. What good looks like has been different in every era, and that includes coaching.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Larry Donovan was the coach during my entire time as a student at UM. In six seasons, his teams never achieved 8 victories. In those six seasons, the Griz made it to one playoff game (and lost to Idaho).

It’s all relative. Griz fans became spoiled. Hauck is a very good coach. He has served UM very well.

Griz fans have expectations because they are spoiled.

Fixed it for you.

 

[RoseyMustGo]

Larry Donovan was the coach during my entire time as a student at UM. In six seasons, his teams never achieved 8 victories. In those six seasons, the Griz made it to one playoff game (and lost to Idaho).

It’s all relative. Griz fans became spoiled. Hauck is a very good coach. He has served UM very well.

Griz fans are spoiled because they have expectations?

Astute Griz fans understand the incredible advantages that UM has over other Big Sky schools when recruiting FCS level players, and have high expectations because of these advantages. All one has to do is conduct a comparison of the other Big Sky stadiums, poor home game-time fan experience, high school quality weight center, lack of home attendance, and no history of winning, to drive those high expectations. And when their head coach promises a return to dominance when hired, and does nothing but sink into the middle of the conference pack after five years, most of that fan base who has a clue realizes that a change is needed. Shouldn't be too difficult for most.

 

[AZGrizFan]

It’s a plain fact if his last name wasn’t Hauck he’d be gone. 7-4, 4-4 in conference and 1-3 against the ‘Scats in year 5 wouldn’t cut it with ANY other head coach.

Is it....

Well, it’s at LEAST as factual as stating that “we would have beaten Weber and Sac with a healthy Johnson”. :lol:

Facts can be tricky things these days, basket.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Griz fans are spoiled because they have expectations?

Astute Griz fans understand the incredible advantages that UM has over other Big Sky schools when recruiting FCS level players, and have high expectations because of these advantages. All one has to do is conduct a comparison of the other Big Sky stadiums, poor home game-time fan experience, high school quality weight center, lack of home attendance, and no history of winning, to drive those high expectations. And when their head coach promises a return to dominance when hired, and does nothing but sink into the middle of the conference pack after five years, most of that fan base who has a clue realizes that a change is needed. Shouldn't be too difficult for most.

I would argue that Montana doesn't have the incredible advantages you and others seem to believe. Also, it only takes one reason for a kid to choose a school, and Montana doesn't have the answer to all.