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Getting butts kicked, but interesting stats

dupuyer griz said:
PlayerRep said:
dupuyer griz said:
PlayerRep said:
I didn't use the stats for anything, I just took them off the ncaa website and posted them. Do you think that stats don't exist in a loss? They'll be in the newspapers tomorrow, and be on the websites of both schools.
And yet... The only thing that matters is who won... Imagine that.

No, alot more matters than winning the game. Actually, how you play the game is more important. How the game is played shows and builds the character of the team and individual plays. Teams build on that for the next season, and it can grow into to a strong tradition. Individuals learn and use it to live productive lives and be successful in life.

Look at hard the Griz played today, on both offense and defense. No one gave up or backed off until the final gun went off. I was so impressed with these guys today. Despite getting clobbered, they kept playing hard. They wanted another score. They didn't want to give up a score. I thought the desire and never-give-up attitude displayed today, was truly impressed.

Other things that matter are playing fairly, not having anyone get seriously hurt, displaying sportsmanship.

Most of the guys playing today play and played for the love of the game. That and how you play the game is the essence of sport. That's how I played and what I like and respect. The Griz have alot of high quality guys. Crittenden is not the exception; he is one of many.
There is no arguing that, however, every team looks to build character. As a coach I want to build character in kids growing to be adults. But, there are no banners for highest character developed. Even a team that is 0-11 can say they built character.

From what I've seen you post recently and today, you must be a horrible coach and teacher, not understanding what is important, and thinking winning is the only thing. You believe it's all about banners? Jeez, sure glad none of my kids had to put up hollow coaches and teachers like you.
 
To qualify my remarks on the game - important to note the season was a success for various reasons, and a huge amount of credit goes to the D for obvious reasons. Stitt competed for a Big Sky championship, beat the Cats, and won a playoff game. All that being said, I would be surprised if Stitt himself didn't openly admit he was out coached in this loss. I think it's ok to place blame on this loss and still be happy with the season as a whole. To that point, did Stitt really think that he could line up the offense, run strait ahead on first and second down, and use no deception against NDst and win? What about all those passes to the outside into the teeth of one of the best corners in the FCS? Yes, Brady had a bad day, but he and the offense were not put into a position to succeed. It was a bad game plan. The defense played great, and NDst left many openings in the first half to keep this a one possession game. That was a bad loss. NDst got their revenge, and it did not have to unfold like that with better coaching. I hope Stitt can learn from this, and be more creative moving forward.
 
PlayerRep said:
dupuyer griz said:
PlayerRep said:
dupuyer griz said:
And yet... The only thing that matters is who won... Imagine that.

No, alot more matters than winning the game. Actually, how you play the game is more important. How the game is played shows and builds the character of the team and individual plays. Teams build on that for the next season, and it can grow into to a strong tradition. Individuals learn and use it to live productive lives and be successful in life.

Look at hard the Griz played today, on both offense and defense. No one gave up or backed off until the final gun went off. I was so impressed with these guys today. Despite getting clobbered, they kept playing hard. They wanted another score. They didn't want to give up a score. I thought the desire and never-give-up attitude displayed today, was truly impressed.

Other things that matter are playing fairly, not having anyone get seriously hurt, displaying sportsmanship.

Most of the guys playing today play and played for the love of the game. That and how you play the game is the essence of sport. That's how I played and what I like and respect. The Griz have alot of high quality guys. Crittenden is not the exception; he is one of many.
There is no arguing that, however, every team looks to build character. As a coach I want to build character in kids growing to be adults. But, there are no banners for highest character developed. Even a team that is 0-11 can say they built character.

From what I've seen you post recently and today, you must be a horrible coach and teacher, not understanding what is important, and thinking winning is the only thing. You believe it's all about banners? Jeez, sure glad none of my kids had to put up hollow coaches and teachers like you.
So you are going with retarded. Every coach wants to build character. That is obvious. I'm glad I don't have your kids in class or on my team because I'd have to deal with your participation trophy bullshit. Sorry you don't understand sports or life, but winning is the goal. Sorry your wife is ugly but she makes a good casserole, sorry your kids are fucking stupid and no one told you that it's not ok. If you're ok with tip 16 that's your problem don't take it out on me that I want to win. Quit trying to make top 10% ok, you must have a hell of a time with the olympics where you have to win. If trying hard is all you expect then you will always be a winner. However, you are what is wrong with our society as it is today. Losers won't be recognized at halftime in 20 years, champions are.
 
dupuyer griz said:
PlayerRep said:
dupuyer griz said:
PlayerRep said:
No, alot more matters than winning the game. Actually, how you play the game is more important. How the game is played shows and builds the character of the team and individual plays. Teams build on that for the next season, and it can grow into to a strong tradition. Individuals learn and use it to live productive lives and be successful in life.

Look at hard the Griz played today, on both offense and defense. No one gave up or backed off until the final gun went off. I was so impressed with these guys today. Despite getting clobbered, they kept playing hard. They wanted another score. They didn't want to give up a score. I thought the desire and never-give-up attitude displayed today, was truly impressed.

Other things that matter are playing fairly, not having anyone get seriously hurt, displaying sportsmanship.

Most of the guys playing today play and played for the love of the game. That and how you play the game is the essence of sport. That's how I played and what I like and respect. The Griz have alot of high quality guys. Crittenden is not the exception; he is one of many.
There is no arguing that, however, every team looks to build character. As a coach I want to build character in kids growing to be adults. But, there are no banners for highest character developed. Even a team that is 0-11 can say they built character.

From what I've seen you post recently and today, you must be a horrible coach and teacher, not understanding what is important, and thinking winning is the only thing. You believe it's all about banners? Jeez, sure glad none of my kids had to put up hollow coaches and teachers like you.
So you are going with retarded. Every coach wants to build character. That is obvious. I'm glad I don't have your kids in class or on my team because I'd have to deal with your participation trophy bullshit. Sorry you don't understand sports or life, but winning is the goal. Sorry your wife is ugly but she makes a good casserole, sorry your kids are f***[*] stupid and no one told you that it's not ok. If you're ok with tip 16 that's your problem don't take it out on me that I want to win. Quit trying to make top 10% ok, you must have a hell of a time with the olympics where you have to win. If trying hard is all you expect then you will always be a winner. However, you are what is wrong with our society as it is today. Losers won't be recognized at halftime in 20 years, champions are.

Okay, I can accept all that, except my wife is smoking hot.
 
PlayerRep said:
dupuyer griz said:
PlayerRep said:
dupuyer griz said:
There is no arguing that, however, every team looks to build character. As a coach I want to build character in kids growing to be adults. But, there are no banners for highest character developed. Even a team that is 0-11 can say they built character.

From what I've seen you post recently and today, you must be a horrible coach and teacher, not understanding what is important, and thinking winning is the only thing. You believe it's all about banners? Jeez, sure glad none of my kids had to put up hollow coaches and teachers like you.
So you are going with retarded. Every coach wants to build character. That is obvious. I'm glad I don't have your kids in class or on my team because I'd have to deal with your participation trophy bullshit. Sorry you don't understand sports or life, but winning is the goal. Sorry your wife is ugly but she makes a good casserole, sorry your kids are f***[*] stupid and no one told you that it's not ok. If you're ok with tip 16 that's your problem don't take it out on me that I want to win. Quit trying to make top 10% ok, you must have a hell of a time with the olympics where you have to win. If trying hard is all you expect then you will always be a winner. However, you are what is wrong with our society as it is today. Losers won't be recognized at halftime in 20 years, champions are.

Okay, I can accept all that, except my wife is smoking hot.
Thank you, and good for you.
 
gabe said:
PlayerRep said:
ronangrizfan said:
Interesting stat: 37-6 NDSU.

Not when a team has had 4 picks, 2 pick 6's, and given up a kickoff return for TD.

When you rush for 6 yards and throw it 50 times... just saying it goes with the style of play

Not surprised at all by the 50 throws, there was little question in my mind we wouldn't be able to consistently run on you guys...we just haven't been that guy against good defenses.

What I didn't expect was the disastrous performance by Gustafson, he hit your guys in the numbers more than ours...complete disaster.
 
PlayerRep said:
Down a bunch, with 3 picks, 1 a pick 6, and a 100 yard kickoff return.

First downs (UM to NDSU) - 12 to 16

Total O - 199 to 275

3d down conversions - 3-13 1-10

Rushing yards - 10 to 226

Passing yards - 189 - 49

Avg per play - 4.1 to 5.2

Brady is 17-33


You forgot to include possession, 40:36 NDSU - 19:24 Griz

There were four turnovers,

And only 6 yards rushing for the Griz

Coach Stitts fast moving offense produced 70 plays vs 71 smash mouth,ball control offensive football.
 
PlayerRep said:
Down a bunch, with 3 picks, 1 a pick 6, and a 100 yard kickoff return.

First downs (UM to NDSU) - 12 to 16

Total O - 199 to 275

3d down conversions - 3-13 1-10

Rushing yards - 10 to 226

Passing yards - 189 - 49

Avg per play - 4.1 to 5.2

Brady is 17-33

Eh, PR is this your way of saying there was a "Moral victory?"
 
grizman71 said:
PlayerRep said:
Down a bunch, with 3 picks, 1 a pick 6, and a 100 yard kickoff return.

First downs (UM to NDSU) - 12 to 16

Total O - 199 to 275

3d down conversions - 3-13 1-10

Rushing yards - 10 to 226

Passing yards - 189 - 49

Avg per play - 4.1 to 5.2

Brady is 17-33

Eh, PR is this your way of saying there was a "Moral victory?"

No, it's exactly what I said in the thread title: "Getting butts kicked, but interesting stats".

Let me know you if I need to read this slowly to you.
 
our alledged offense put up 13 points for NDSU
Special teams put up 7 for NDSU
Defense gave up .... in 40 minutes .... just 17 points, including the pedictable LONG TD play in early minutes...

SO WHO LOST THE GAME
 
PlayerRep said:
grizman71 said:
PlayerRep said:
Down a bunch, with 3 picks, 1 a pick 6, and a 100 yard kickoff return.

First downs (UM to NDSU) - 12 to 16

Total O - 199 to 275

3d down conversions - 3-13 1-10

Rushing yards - 10 to 226

Passing yards - 189 - 49

Avg per play - 4.1 to 5.2

Brady is 17-33

Eh, PR is this your way of saying there was a "Moral victory?"

No, it's exactly what I said in the thread title: "Getting butts kicked, but interesting stats".

Let me know you if I need to read this slowly to you.
Did I hurt your little feelings? :cry: Sure am glad you are the "King" of keeping stats for us. Go back to your basement and try to figure out your life.
 
Participation ribbons are for losers and stats prove participation not outcome. (Obviously you can even win the stats and still lose the game). Whoever was to blame for the loss, if they learned something then it wasn't a waste. Most often you learn more from losing than winning and I hope the lesson sinks in. 'Cause, as losers say, there's always next year and we would not like to see the Griz repeat that debacle.
 
grizman71 said:
Did I hurt your little feelings? :cry: Sure am glad you are the "King" of keeping stats for us. Go back to your basement and try to figure out your life.
What in the hell is the matter with some of you? We were getting our butts kicked. It was interesting to see that stats though. That's a perfectly normal conversation .... for usefully intelligent fans.
 
You know what makes this butt-kicking sting less? The fact that knowing last years OL recruiting class and the one that is being put together this year will be taking the field in the future (granted in time). The Griz will move (run and pass) the ball against NDSU and anybody else with these bruisers! The game is won in the trenches, and UM has last year and this year been recruiting winners on the line. The Griz O will be dominating and dynamic with these tough guys making it happen up-front. Mark it down!
 
dupuyer griz said:
PlayerRep said:
dupuyer griz said:
PlayerRep said:
From what I've seen you post recently and today, you must be a horrible coach and teacher, not understanding what is important, and thinking winning is the only thing. You believe it's all about banners? Jeez, sure glad none of my kids had to put up hollow coaches and teachers like you.
So you are going with retarded. Every coach wants to build character. That is obvious. I'm glad I don't have your kids in class or on my team because I'd have to deal with your participation trophy bullshit. Sorry you don't understand sports or life, but winning is the goal. Sorry your wife is ugly but she makes a good casserole, sorry your kids are f***[*] stupid and no one told you that it's not ok. If you're ok with tip 16 that's your problem don't take it out on me that I want to win. Quit trying to make top 10% ok, you must have a hell of a time with the olympics where you have to win. If trying hard is all you expect then you will always be a winner. However, you are what is wrong with our society as it is today. Losers won't be recognized at halftime in 20 years, champions are.

Okay, I can accept all that, except my wife is smoking hot.
Thank you, and good for you.

PlayerRep, you're kids are pretty smart and athletic too.

Thus making dupuyer griz what is wrong with society as it is today. Which is making assumptions without testing to see if they are true.
 
IntuitiveGriz said:
You know what makes this butt-kicking sting less? The fact that knowing last years OL recruiting class and the one that is being put together this year will be taking the field in the future (granted in time). The Griz will move (run and pass) the ball against NDSU and anybody else with these bruisers! The game is won in the trenches, and UM has last year and this year been recruiting winners on the line. The Griz O will be dominating and dynamic with these tough guys making it happen up-front. Mark it down!
DII offense against DI NCs. Next year we match it with DII defense. How well will that work?
 
kemajic said:
IntuitiveGriz said:
You know what makes this butt-kicking sting less? The fact that knowing last years OL recruiting class and the one that is being put together this year will be taking the field in the future (granted in time). The Griz will move (run and pass) the ball against NDSU and anybody else with these bruisers! The game is won in the trenches, and UM has last year and this year been recruiting winners on the line. The Griz O will be dominating and dynamic with these tough guys making it happen up-front. Mark it down!
DII offense against DI NCs. Next year we match it with DII defense. How well will that work?

The Griz moving personnel from a Div 11 offensive line the past couple years to a FBS offensive line in the future will dramatically work.
 
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