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Future QB

UMGriz75 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
You do realize that making the right read and throwing a poor pass are 2 different things. Simis was not 3rd string and sitting on the bench because Stitt had a personal vendetta with him.
I think you lost the argument today.


How so? It was not the reads that was the main problem, he threw to open guys, he just threw so poorly that he missed them.
 
blackfootipa said:
Bold prediction: Willy P. will not start a game for the U of M. Nothing against the kid, I think Stitt has other plans.

Not very bold. Stitt will bring in his guys and they won't look like Pflug.

Stitt wants QB's -- not hybrid RB's who can kind of throw the ball a little.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
UMGriz75 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
You do realize that making the right read and throwing a poor pass are 2 different things. Simis was not 3rd string and sitting on the bench because Stitt had a personal vendetta with him.
I think you lost the argument today.
How so? It was not the reads that was the main problem, he threw to open guys, he just threw so poorly that he missed them.
Yeah, one kind of goes with the other, right? I'm sure you did not mean to imply a couple of weeks ago differently.
 
UMGriz75 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
UMGriz75 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
You do realize that making the right read and throwing a poor pass are 2 different things. Simis was not 3rd string and sitting on the bench because Stitt had a personal vendetta with him.
I think you lost the argument today.
How so? It was not the reads that was the main problem, he threw to open guys, he just threw so poorly that he missed them.
Yeah, one kind of goes with the other, right? I'm sure you did not mean to imply a couple of weeks ago differently.

You need to do both, but throwing poor passes does not mean you made the incorrect read. And what was said weeks ago is that Gus has the ability to look to secondary receivers and Simis struggles doing so. Today did nothing to dispel that reality.

I also want to know that with your statistical comparison that anointed SImis the better QB, did you have a component that took into account what the opposing defenses did in each game?
 
uofmman1122 said:
Great, we get to listen to this loser for weeks about how Simis should've always been the guy at QB.

Hurray.
I think it's cute...he thinks the more he rants, it will make it so.

He's wrong, but it's fun to watch him try and set the world straight.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
I also want to know that with your statistical comparison that anointed SImis the better QB, did you have a component that took into account what the opposing defenses did in each game?
As I repeatedly asked on the other threads, "OK, what?" and to which you invariably went silent. This idea "Yeah but ..." gets old when that's all there is. The fact is, everything I pointed to three weeks ago came true today, right down to the specific words, "overthrow," "miscommunication," and "interception/fumble." Sad to say. But it was out there and evident to those who looked, and for those who had their minds made up, reality bit hard today.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
And what was said weeks ago is that Gus has the ability to look to secondary receivers and Simis struggles doing so. Today did nothing to dispel that reality.
Simis didn't play today.
 
UMGriz75 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I also want to know that with your statistical comparison that anointed SImis the better QB, did you have a component that took into account what the opposing defenses did in each game?
As I repeatedly asked on the other threads, "OK, what?" and to which you invariably went silent. This idea "Yeah but ..." gets old when that's all there is. The fact is, everything I pointed to three weeks ago came true today, right down to the specific words, "overthrow," "miscommunication," and "interception/fumble." Sad to say. But it was out there and evident to those who looked, and for those who had their minds made up, reality bit hard today.


You are correct, every opposing team plays the same vanilla defense. I am pretty sure that NDSU did exactly the same thing on defense today that they did back in August. As for specifics, many people gave them, but you continually want to ignore those posts. I am sure that you can not even tell us whether a team played zone or man or used a 1-deep safety. You also want to ignore that Simis had very little success after the first game he started, and the reason is because the other teams he started against made defensive adjustments. What you ask, well like was posted several times to you before, they manned up on the outside because they knew he would panic, not adjust to a secondary receiver and either run or force the ball.
 
UMGriz75 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
And what was said weeks ago is that Gus has the ability to look to secondary receivers and Simis struggles doing so. Today did nothing to dispel that reality.
Simis didn't play today.

Which has nothing to do with the fact that he has shown when he did play, that he struggled looking for secondary receivers. That is probably a real good reason why he didn't play today.
 
grizindabox said:
Let it go....75 is convinced that Stitt would rather lose than play the better QB....
Surprised no one was calling for Lucas to play QB today.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
You are correct, every opposig team plays the same vanilla defense. I am pretty sure that NDSU did exactly the same thing on defense today that they did back in August. As for specifics, many people gave them, but you continually want to ignore those posts. I am sure that you can not even tell us whether a team played zone or man or used a 1-deep safety. You also want to ignore that Simis had very little success after the first game he started, and the reason is because the other teams he started against made defensive adjustments. What you ask, well like was posted several times to you before, they manned up on the outside because they knew he would panic, not adjust to a secondary receiver and either run or force the ball.
I'm not going to go over this all again. You can put words in my mouth and try and change the subject all you want. Your man played the game I predicted. That's the measure of you that you are still trying to defend that.
 
havgrizfan said:
homegrown, I'm not trying to be a jerk or an insider, but I'm telling you, there is NO 2016 QB competition. Yes, Brady played horrible today, but he is the ONLY clear starter, and that includes Pflug. Also, the pressure threshold thing is a bit weird to say. Considering he made one of the biggest pressure throws in Griz regular season history on 4th down to beat the same Bison team. It's funny how everybody remembers Counts' score, and has already forgotten the throw Brady made on 4th down to Reese Carlson lmafo.

Hav = I like your posts and respect your opinion. But you definitely have to acknowledge that there were indications that Gus had the deer-in-the-headlights look today and it was clear that he could master weaker BSC defenses like Eastern Washington and Montana State but not a top-quality outfit like NDSU. Maybe another spring and fall camp, and more gametime experience will help, but maybe not.
 
The Fargo Dome is a pretty tough place to play and I think that did not help Brady and the offense today. The Griz absolutely can not run the football and that does not help this offense or the passing attack. I am quite certain Brady Gustafson will be behind center next season and I hope he makes it through the entire year healthy.
 
UMGriz75 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
You are correct, every opposig team plays the same vanilla defense. I am pretty sure that NDSU did exactly the same thing on defense today that they did back in August. As for specifics, many people gave them, but you continually want to ignore those posts. I am sure that you can not even tell us whether a team played zone or man or used a 1-deep safety. You also want to ignore that Simis had very little success after the first game he started, and the reason is because the other teams he started against made defensive adjustments. What you ask, well like was posted several times to you before, they manned up on the outside because they knew he would panic, not adjust to a secondary receiver and either run or force the ball.
I'm not going to go over this all again. You can put words in my mouth and try and change the subject all you want. Your man played the game I predicted. That's the measure of you that you are still trying to defend that.


did he play the game that you predicted against EWU and MSU?
 
grizindabox said:
Let it go....75 is convinced that Stitt would rather lose than play the better QB....
Yes, please let it go. Some are still convinced that Brady won the game today.
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
Let it go....75 is convinced that Stitt would rather lose than play the better QB....
Yes, please let it go. Some are still convinced that Brady won the game today.

Actually....I think some....you....are convinced that they would have won if Simis played....
 
I would have liked to seen simis get some reps as he would have added another dimension today with his run ability. With Gus not on his game and ndsu not having to worry about him running it really made life on the offense side of the ball very difficult today. Also when its a obvious passing down it is not a fair fight to have John as a blocking back which was pretty much the 4th quarter. I kinda agree with what someone said earlier that if something is not working , stitt is not inclined to change the game plan or mix up personnel.
 
grizindabox said:
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
Let it go....75 is convinced that Stitt would rather lose than play the better QB....
Yes, please let it go. Some are still convinced that Brady won the game today.

Actually....I think some....you....are convinced that they would have won if Simis played....

Can you imagine how that would have went?
 
grizindabox said:
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
Let it go....75 is convinced that Stitt would rather lose than play the better QB....
Yes, please let it go. Some are still convinced that Brady won the game today.

Actually....I think some....you....are convinced that they would have won if Simis played....
You like to argue against words that you fabricate in the first place. The fact is, what I specifically did say, about Brady, turned out to be true in spades, and that was your snit three weeks ago. That it was just "stats" and those don't matter; that only true savants such as yourself can truly understand why Brady was a superior QB. The fact is, what I said was exactly correct and what you claimed was specifically wrong.

Can't say anything about Makena, as noted, he didn't play.
 
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