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For all the Bobby Hauck lap dogs

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PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Hiring Bobby means instant success for the program. I am curious why every FCS program hasn't been trying to hire the guy that is guaranteed to lead any program to Championships.

I doubt that Hauck wants to go to just any FCS program.

I would ask all of you, if Hauck came back to UM, why do you think he wouldn't assemble a great staff (which apparently would include Tim H), recruit very well in and out of MT, and quickly build a very strong program. He already did it previously here. It was incredibly successful. He's a better and more experienced coach now. He has more recruiting contacts, including FBS levels. He's older and more mature. Don't think he has had any significant problems or issues since he left. He is very well known and liked with a large percentage of the athletic donor and supporter side of Griz Nation. Everyone doesn't like Bobby, but many, and many important supporters, do.
He didn't build a strong program. He inherited one. Big difference.


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Griz Man said:
kemajic said:
Griz Man said:
RobGriz said:
I believe it is a legit qualifier given that the last time they had a coach with a winning record was 1985

It had been 40 or so years since the Colorado School of Mines won a conference title before Stitt took over there. Stitt turned a conference doormat into a perennial contender. Give the guy a chance here - he coached with Joe Glenn and has an offense that can hang 30-40 points on anyone when he has his pieces in place.
If only 30-40 were enough to win with his defense and STs.

But Stitt did turn around a perennial doormat. Why couldn't Bobby?
DII vs. FBS. Real good comparison.
 
RobGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
BH is a good coach. I don't think you can judge him based off of his record at UNLV. Nobody has really had much success there.

I laugh every time people need to add this qualifier when talking about Bobby.

I believe it is a legit qualifier given that the last time they had a coach with a winning record was 1985
When was the last time they had a winning record at Mines before Bob Stitt?


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AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Hiring Bobby means instant success for the program. I am curious why every FCS program hasn't been trying to hire the guy that is guaranteed to lead any program to Championships.

I doubt that Hauck wants to go to just any FCS program.

I would ask all of you, if Hauck came back to UM, why do you think he wouldn't assemble a great staff (which apparently would include Tim H), recruit very well in and out of MT, and quickly build a very strong program. He already did it previously here. It was incredibly successful. He's a better and more experienced coach now. He has more recruiting contacts, including FBS levels. He's older and more mature. Don't think he has had any significant problems or issues since he left. He is very well known and liked with a large percentage of the athletic donor and supporter side of Griz Nation. Everyone doesn't like Bobby, but many, and many important supporters, do.
He didn't build a strong program. He inherited one. Big difference.


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Stitt inherited a strong program too. 11-3 and 9-5 with wins over Cats and 2 playoff appearances, including being seeded one year, and ended up ranked nos. 8 and 12 in the national polls after the season. How is that not a strong program? How many years to we need to get back into the top 25?
 
reinell30 said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Hiring Bobby means instant success for the program. I am curious why every FCS program hasn't been trying to hire the guy that is guaranteed to lead any program to Championships.

I doubt that Hauck wants to go to just any FCS program.

I would ask all of you, if Hauck came back to UM, why do you think he wouldn't assemble a great staff (which apparently would include Tim H), recruit very well in and out of MT, and quickly build a very strong program. He already did it previously here. It was incredibly successful. He's a better and more experienced coach now. He has more recruiting contacts, including FBS levels. He's older and more mature. Don't think he has had any significant problems or issues since he left. He is very well known and liked with a large percentage of the athletic donor and supporter side of Griz Nation. Everyone doesn't like Bobby, but many, and many important supporters, do.

Great questions! I think if Bobby came here and used Stitts players, he wins immediately! Stitt recruited very well! Poor coaching is all that is missing from this griz team, it is as simple as that, why can't people just admit it?
They won't ever admit , you would have a better chance of hillary admitting she lost because of herself .
 
PlayerRep said:
Some, in fact many, of the "morons" who would welcome Hauck back are the top financial supporters of UM football.

+1. Absolutely correct. Including the tip top of the donors who happen to have a football stadium named after them.
 
PlayerRep said:
Some, in fact many, of the "morons" who would welcome Hauck back are the top financial supporters of UM football.

And many large donors would never write another check. Way of the world, I guess.
 
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Hiring Bobby means instant success for the program. I am curious why every FCS program hasn't been trying to hire the guy that is guaranteed to lead any program to Championships.

I doubt that Hauck wants to go to just any FCS program.

I would ask all of you, if Hauck came back to UM, why do you think he wouldn't assemble a great staff (which apparently would include Tim H), recruit very well in and out of MT, and quickly build a very strong program. He already did it previously here. It was incredibly successful. He's a better and more experienced coach now. He has more recruiting contacts, including FBS levels. He's older and more mature. Don't think he has had any significant problems or issues since he left. He is very well known and liked with a large percentage of the athletic donor and supporter side of Griz Nation. Everyone doesn't like Bobby, but many, and many important supporters, do.
He didn't build a strong program. He inherited one. Big difference.


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Stitt inherited a strong program too. 11-3 and 9-5 with wins over Cats and 2 playoff appearances, including being seeded one year, and ended up ranked nos. 8 and 12 in the national polls after the season. How is that not a strong program? How many years to we need to get back into the top 25?
Right. BH inherits a team one year removed from a national championship....Stitt? What did Mick leave him? Downward trend, down four scholarships, home field playoff loss in the first round to an overmatched opponent and the program headed in the wrong direction. Real strong....that's why everyone was just soooooo upset when Mick decided to hang it up....because he'd done such a great job....


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griz5700 said:
mtgrizrule said:
Why would Hauck want to put up with a fan base that wanted him fired too, just because he did not win the big game? Just getting to the big game, and owning the conference was not good enough for some GRIZ fans. Well guess what? For those wanting him gone, be careful what you wish for.

Hauck doesn’t worry about shit like that. He just wins a lot of games, beats the cats, and puts guys in the NFL.

I’ll never understand why some Griz fans don’t like Hauck. Totally crazy imo. Those ppl obviously never had a beer with the guy.

+1
 
Copper Griz said:
kemajic said:
Paytonlives said:
You morons what Stitt to WIN NOW but are willing to beg a dude with a horrible record since he left UM to come save the day.

If he's so fricken good... Why is he only a Special teams coach at a third rate FBS school? Oh, sorry he is an "associate" head coach, what ever the hell that means, at a third rate FBS team.
SDSU is "a third rate FBS school"? They are only the two time defending MWC champions and have been in the top 20 this year. Beat ASU at Tempe (who beat Washington) and beat Stanford. Likely to finish 10-2 against that schedule. Who is the moron? You're losing all credibility with this argument.

BH is so poorly thought of there that it is well known he is the natural successor to Rocky Long (age 67).

If SDSU's performance while BH was there is "third rate", what would you call Stitt's, losing 5 games a year, unable to beat a team with a winning record. How is his ST unit doing?

Serious questions here. For the record I am not a huge fan of Bobby. I have my reasons, but that is irrelevant. Hauck is a damn good coach and I don’t think that is really debatable. Saban couldn’t turn the UNLV turd into a golden nugget.
1. Why come back to Montana and make less or equal to the money he is currently getting? He would be under the microscope with expectations of winning every damn game the Griz played. He left for a reason and it was not all about money. 2. He seems to be the heir apparent for the SDSU job. More money, less scrutiny, warm weather and coaching at a higher level. Seriously, why the hell would he come back? Yes, I get that he wants to put the band back together and be a head coach. Sounds like that will happen at SDSU.

Because he and his wife want to come home.
 
Paytonlives said:
You morons what Stitt to WIN NOW but are willing to beg a dude with a horrible record since he left UM to come save the day.

If he's so fricken good... Why is he only a Special teams coach at a third rate FBS school? Oh, sorry he is an "associate" head coach, what ever the hell that means, at a third rate FBS team.

What was his record at UNLV?

Oh 15-49 with exactly one winning season and that was 7 and 6...
in 4 of 5 years he only won two games and lost double digit games!
2-11
2-10
2-11
7-6
2-11

Hell yes I say hire him NOW!!!!!

I think someone needs a puppy !!!!
Oh BTW since it ok to call people names your an , nevermind I'll be the better guy this time lol
And to bad Tommy John didn't make panties because the men's don't bunch up , seems like you could use something like that
 
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
Some, in fact many, of the "morons" who would welcome Hauck back are the top financial supporters of UM football.

And many large donors would never write another check. Way of the world, I guess.

Not true. Virtually all of the top donors and potential donors supported Hauck, including apparently the Washington's. The only one I know supporting Stitt was involved with the little subcommittee helping Haslam, but has also been friendly with Bobby too. The bulk of the tier of supporters under the top tier also like Hauck.

Let's see your list of the top half dozen or so supporters, financial or otherwise, of Griz football.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
BH is a good coach. I don't think you can judge him based off of his record at UNLV. Nobody has really had much success there.

I laugh every time people need to add this qualifier when talking about Bobby.

It's not a qualifier. It's a fact. They've only had one winning season since 2000. The OP is basing his argument based on his record at UNLV.

No. it is a qualifier. Why couldn't you have just left it at "Bobby is a good coach".

Did you read the OP?? It was his primary argument!
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
I doubt that Hauck wants to go to just any FCS program.

I would ask all of you, if Hauck came back to UM, why do you think he wouldn't assemble a great staff (which apparently would include Tim H), recruit very well in and out of MT, and quickly build a very strong program. He already did it previously here. It was incredibly successful. He's a better and more experienced coach now. He has more recruiting contacts, including FBS levels. He's older and more mature. Don't think he has had any significant problems or issues since he left. He is very well known and liked with a large percentage of the athletic donor and supporter side of Griz Nation. Everyone doesn't like Bobby, but many, and many important supporters, do.
He didn't build a strong program. He inherited one. Big difference.


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Stitt inherited a strong program too. 11-3 and 9-5 with wins over Cats and 2 playoff appearances, including being seeded one year, and ended up ranked nos. 8 and 12 in the national polls after the season. How is that not a strong program? How many years to we need to get back into the top 25?


Right. BH inherits a team one year removed from a national championship....Stitt? What did Mick leave him? Downward trend, down four scholarships, home field playoff loss in the first round to an overmatched opponent and the program headed in the wrong direction. Real strong....that's why everyone was just soooooo upset when Mick decided to hang it up....because he'd done such a great job....


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Stitt inherited a team that had been ranked nos. 8 and 12 nationally. That's not a downward trend, unless you are going to say 8 to 12 is your idea of a downward trend. I don't agree the program was headed in the wrong direction. It wasn't going to the national championship game every other year, but look what's gone on in recent years.
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
I doubt that Hauck wants to go to just any FCS program.

I would ask all of you, if Hauck came back to UM, why do you think he wouldn't assemble a great staff (which apparently would include Tim H), recruit very well in and out of MT, and quickly build a very strong program. He already did it previously here. It was incredibly successful. He's a better and more experienced coach now. He has more recruiting contacts, including FBS levels. He's older and more mature. Don't think he has had any significant problems or issues since he left. He is very well known and liked with a large percentage of the athletic donor and supporter side of Griz Nation. Everyone doesn't like Bobby, but many, and many important supporters, do.
He didn't build a strong program. He inherited one. Big difference.


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Stitt inherited a strong program too. 11-3 and 9-5 with wins over Cats and 2 playoff appearances, including being seeded one year, and ended up ranked nos. 8 and 12 in the national polls after the season. How is that not a strong program? How many years to we need to get back into the top 25?
Right. BH inherits a team one year removed from a national championship....Stitt? What did Mick leave him? Downward trend, down four scholarships, home field playoff loss in the first round to an overmatched opponent and the program headed in the wrong direction. Real strong....that's why everyone was just soooooo upset when Mick decided to hang it up....because he'd done such a great job....


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Yep and Bobby won with other people's recruits and his own , so your point is assgrizfan
 
There was an easy way for Hauck to coach at Montana: Not to quit his job coaching at Montana. He made the choice. I don't blame him a bit. But once you quit your job (any job), you can't expect to get it back. Ever.
 
TCCGRIZ said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
He didn't build a strong program. He inherited one. Big difference.


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Stitt inherited a strong program too. 11-3 and 9-5 with wins over Cats and 2 playoff appearances, including being seeded one year, and ended up ranked nos. 8 and 12 in the national polls after the season. How is that not a strong program? How many years to we need to get back into the top 25?
Right. BH inherits a team one year removed from a national championship....Stitt? What did Mick leave him? Downward trend, down four scholarships, home field playoff loss in the first round to an overmatched opponent and the program headed in the wrong direction. Real strong....that's why everyone was just soooooo upset when Mick decided to hang it up....because he'd done such a great job....


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Yep and Bobby won with other people's recruits and his own , so your point is assgrizfan

Just what I thought "crickets"
 
AllWeatherFan said:
There was an easy way for Hauck to coach at Montana: Not to quit his job coaching at Montana. He made the choice. I don't blame him a bit. But once you quit your job (any job), you can't expect to get it back. Ever.

Who said anything about “expects”? We are talking about getting hired again.

What about Royce Engstrom? What about Bill Speltz at Missoulian?

What about Chad Germer?

What about Mike Gerber, the UM strength coach?

Our firm hires back lawyers and partners who have moved on, all the time.

What about lawyers coming back out of government? Priebus now back to his old law firm.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
reinell30 said:
Great questions! I think if Bobby came here and used Stitts players, he wins immediately! Stitt recruited very well! Poor coaching is all that is missing from this griz team, it is as simple as that, why can't people just admit it?

I am not sure that coaching is the only issue currently.

Agree!
 
AZGrizFan said:
RobGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
BH is a good coach. I don't think you can judge him based off of his record at UNLV. Nobody has really had much success there.

I laugh every time people need to add this qualifier when talking about Bobby.

I believe it is a legit qualifier given that the last time they had a coach with a winning record was 1985
When was the last time they had a winning record at Mines before Bob Stitt?


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And what did he do with it. Is a "winning record" the new standard for Griz football??? If you could just list all of his championships at CSM, or anywhere else for that matter....
 
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