Maynardsgametrail
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It must be nice to be in his situation and still have a job :roll: .......what the eff.
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Foley resigning as VP of External Relations
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I always figured Mr. Foley's job description was to do whatever President Dennison told him to do, and he'd be gone pretty soon after President Dennison left. I'm surprised he's lasted this long. I don't mean to be critical of him, it's just seemed to me his job was pretty dependent on President Dennison.
goatcreekgriz
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Gotta binge before you purge.
goatcreekgriz
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Engstrom could end up as the Joe Stalin of UM, and the right deviationists are being purged first. I think he is underestimated by many posting here.
Just by those who think ADs and football coaches are critical players. Anyone who has taken the time to familiraize themselves with his history would not. In case one forgets, one of his major accomplishments (according to him) was replacing the entire faculty in South Dakota as department chair. Folks would be bailing with or without the current mess. As Engstrom himself said he has been slowed down for the past few months by the rape crisis (but not stopped) He was hired simply to clean out the University entrenchment from King George. JOD would have been gone with or without the football crisis. Change of leadership is very accurate. Phlu was just an insignificant bystander (to royce)goatcreekgriz said:
Don't misunderstand, he will be a very succesful president. If past performance is any indicator the less than 4 million/year brought to the athletic department by donors is chump change compared to the tens of millions he brought in South Dakota.
goatcreekgriz
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Calling him Stalin was a compliment. Able administrators can sneak up on you, and Uncle Joe (if nothing else) was very successful. I thought Engstrom was very impressive in that KUFM interview a few weeks back, and I'm sure he has a plan. I just wouldn't want to be a left deviationist.
Stalin had his own version of the "zero defects" policy that I'm sure the former AD and HC are grateful for Engstom's not implementing here. I am going to quit posting and read, I am finding this discussion interesting and informative. If the athletic department and the University emerges from this ordeal for the better then I am on board, but I think some of us are reserving judgement to get a sense of future direction for Griz football.
Anybody see the new article in the Missoulian about the athletic trainer claiming O'day and Gee fired him for reporting a sexual harassment complaint? Good ol Gwen Florio wrote it. The second half of the article was about the "gang rape" by the football team. I have no idea what that has to do with the rest of the article. This is my (and most other peoples) issue with Gwen. She turns every article into an article about the Griz football team.
grizcountry420
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BDizzle said:
Yea.. She definitely hacked that article together..
Silvertip said:
He has far more than you might suspect. The University Community is far broader than the Tailgate area. I realize that as a University make the massive changes the Montana system is embarked on (depending on the sub units and two schools for feeders and dramatically increasing the High school course work for admission as the first of several steps to improve the two universities academically and contain costs) its hard to accept that Athletics while expected to be "successful" becomes the literal ugly step child.
I believe the figure bandied about as increased grants and research fellowships at South Dakota was 30 million/year. Heres a few articlce there are MANY more
http://www.epscorideafoundation.org/publications/single/statement_of_dr_royce_engstrom_2006/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.sdepscor.org/history.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.plaintalk.net/cms/news/story-18289.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.sdbor.edu/mediapubs/pressreleases/2004/051904farrington.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
With federal budget cuts occurring and more coming, especially in many of the areas involving university research, it's not going to be easy to increase federal funding.
MSU's research funding was down a bit last year. Here's what the MSU senior vp in charge of that area said in September:
"Asked if belt-tightening in Congress will hurt federal funding of research, McCoy said there have already been significant reductions in the 2011 federal budget in programs where MSU successfully competes.
“Every university in the country is concerned,” McCoy said. “There’s a lot of effort in trying to alert congressional delegations of all the states of the importance of university research … and trying to maintain it at a stable level.”
MSU's research funding was down a bit last year. Here's what the MSU senior vp in charge of that area said in September:
"Asked if belt-tightening in Congress will hurt federal funding of research, McCoy said there have already been significant reductions in the 2011 federal budget in programs where MSU successfully competes.
“Every university in the country is concerned,” McCoy said. “There’s a lot of effort in trying to alert congressional delegations of all the states of the importance of university research … and trying to maintain it at a stable level.”
...tnt said:
Foley may be a great choice for this job, but no one is going to be able to work miracles when federal funding for university research is drying up and budget cuts in these areas are coming. If Engstrom is pinning his funding hopes on increasing federal funds for research, I doubt that he's going to be able to increase it much. This area of funding will probably go down. Looking at the research spending for the past 12 months, it looks like UM's research spending is down 13%.
Engstrom may want to spend more time trying to re-build bridges with some of the important, and potentially important, donors for UM. Funding from donors is likely to be impacted for years. If the football team falters in the next several years, Engstrom is going to get much of the blame. I have no confidence that Engstrom is going to be able to re-build enough of these bridges. With some, the damage is irreparable. I continue to believe that Engstrom has undercut his ability to lead UM. We'll see how things go, but I doubt that he will survice at UM in the long run.
PlayerRep said:
yeah, MSU was down about 6 million last year
http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/economy/article_d8479d1a-dff7-11e0-8e3a-001cc4c002e0.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Although based on hearing the prez speak the other night I think it is up again for 2012, her statment was "over 320 million in the last 3 years" so that would put 2012 around 108 million
PlayerRep said:
You might be suprised. Not all research is government funded. We have great abilities with in a pharmacy department and growing connections there. We have some excellent abilities in the business school including several specialists in repatriation of overseas executives/manufacturing directors. Beta testing with new Microsoft technologies is still ongoing and increasing and there have been some "new connections" with other area folks. Royce recently spent a few days at the home of a California alum who a couple of years ago funded in excess of seven figures some small business/entrepreneur programs in the business department as well as some stuff in the Pharmacy school and also divested himself of a major ownership stake in a Publicly traded tech firm.
The athletic supporters (a few) may be pretty uptight but I haven't heard much from the academic side. I know there is a lot of chest pounding here, but a stark reality is there are a tremendous number of people who could care less about percieved injustices to athletes and the coaches and a fair number who would support any president (with their checkbooks) who called the athletic department up short.
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. BTW us old people laughed at the recent Florio Article and the nimrod who talked about hurting the university for 15 or 20 years.The fact is that whole thing was the start of the success of Grizzly athletics. It was panic that promoted an assistant coach (that shouldn't have been promoted at all) to provide "continuity" that set the program back, but it was still the start of our dominance. We had six bad years not 20 (and not all of them were bad) not too much into that 15 year we got Washington Griz stadium......
