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Fly sweep offense

BadlandsGrizFan said:
Like I said before...I think Stitt played pretty vanilla offense for the OOC games....hes saving the good stuff for conference play...where the wins really matter.
Well considering how important a high seed is... All wins matter, and quality wins matter. Beating UNI is about the best thing the team could do this year
 
BG has run it to perfection against NDSU. Then after Cal Poly interceptions and then leg injury BG has shown no consistancy. I don't think it is lack of talent, maybe gun shy or cares too much and trying to be perfect. At some time the fear of failure has to be replaced with fearlessness.

BG can run this O, the D can't be perfect all season the O has to execute consistantly. Stitt has the willingness to be a riverboat gambler if the O players were more consistant. There are plenty of conservitive passing plays that the WRs can have success with if ball is thrown quick and somewhat acurate.

Sidepoint, usually play same play when it successful the first time. Keep runing successful plays until the D can stop them. It was nice to see a heavy package for short distance, however not being able to make quick desision on third down to run it without a time-out seems like a knee jerk desicion or lack of preparation.

Then the formation is so balanced with limited options the D subed heavy package and crashed the line, no brainer for the D. If that heavy package was off-balanced, there would be a cutback option if D line pinches.
 
Ursus1 said:
nzone said:
And yet BG is the best QB we have to run this offense? :oops: :shock:

Amazes me

Yes he is. Because this offense is based on reading the defense and making the correct choice out of 2,3,4,5. Brady is far and away the best Qb to make reads and accurate throws. I know that may blow your mind but our other QBs just don't have the ability to read and throw outside nearly like Brady can. They can run more but the offense is designed to pass first and run downhill in the second half. This is not a true spread option attack like you all seem to think. This offense is not designed to have to run with the QB. It's would be preferred for the QB to be able to keep the D honest on the read every now and then and I'm sure coach would prefer Brady to be able to run a little better but he will take a smart QB who can throw outside and read the D before a QB would cam run the zone read. Hence why Brady is starting and other more mobile options are playing behind him
 
Diesel said:
BG has run it to perfection against NDSU. Then after Cal Poly interceptions and then leg injury BG has shown no consistancy. I don't think it is lack of talent, maybe gun shy or cares too much and trying to be perfect. At some time the fear of failure has to be replaced with fearlessness.

BG can run this O, the D can't be perfect all season the O has to execute consistantly. Stitt has the willingness to be a riverboat gambler if the O players were more consistant. There are plenty of conservitive passing plays that the WRs can have success with if ball is thrown quick and somewhat acurate.

Sidepoint, usually play same play when it successful the first time. Keep runing successful plays until the D can stop them. It was nice to see a heavy package for short distance, however not being able to make quick desision on third down to run it without a time-out seems like a knee jerk desicion or lack of preparation.

Then the formation is so balanced with limited options the D subed heavy package and crashed the line, no brainer for the D. If that heavy package was off-balanced, there would be a cutback option if D line pinches.


Keep in mind that NDSU game was first of season....teams now have tapes to watch for tendencies etc. Second time played NDSU was a different storyline and now the only real success this season was second half against a weaker opponent and still only after half when undoubtedly some fatigue set in with a team that was not deep.UNI held them to 200 yards and only offensive touchdown was thanks to blown coverage Rewatch the first NDSU game and see how many huge catches were actually balls up for grabs just outplayed by an incredible WR crew. I know people say Stitt claims don't need a running QB, but the read option with Gus is a joke, if he keeps it he lumbers up and goes down. All these practices and the backup QB's can't do better is honestly amazing. They are not slouches. Gus I am sure is a good guy, good leader, hard worker but either he is not suited for offense, or the offense is not suited for him (perhaps anyone at this level). This offense seems to be bits and pieces of others (Oregon for example), but they all use the QB run as weapon not just a decoy. I am sure D coordinators plan to make take the RB out of the game by keying on him and forcing Gus to beat them. Will work against some teams, but not elite ones. I remember hearing part of Stitt's concept was the fast pace would tire teams so could best them in the 4th....not seeing that (and at D2 level the depth of talent restricts amount of quality front 7 subbing which would tire teams, not so much with FCS full scholarship teams).
 
Haven't seen in person this year...can anyone tell me are the receivers open and he isn't reading it correctly or are they all covered and he is screwed?
 
QB hasn't been responsible for all passing woes. WRs have aissues with routes, seperation, and drops. BG timing and or acuracy on middle of the field throws are a invitation to shorten WRs careers and cause turn overs.

Bingham can catch with no seperation. JLM has been lead into coverage by throws and outside recievers have dropped beutifully thrown sideline throws.

Short sideline passes are not giving speedy WRs any space to work with.

RBs are being keyed on by defenses and QB is not taking advantage of LBs and DBs peeking in on RB.

BG has mental and physical tools to excel in this O, but he does suffer from poor footing and body positioning and it shows up in inacurate short and middle throws. Unless it is third and long he throws a beautiful shallow crossing pattern to Bingham for one to two yard gains to our slowest WR.
 
Watched some of the CPSLO replay this morning and am thinking Stitt will use a lot of fly motion to try to get JLM isolated on a backer. USDSU had luck throwing quick stuff to the edges because Poly blitzed a bunch and left themselves in a lot of cover three. O-line is going to need to be particularly good, Poly pretty much owned the jacks O-line.
 
mtgrizfankb said:
Ursus1 said:
nzone said:
And yet BG is the best QB we have to run this offense? :oops: :shock:

Amazes me

Yes he is. Because this offense is based on reading the defense and making the correct choice out of 2,3,4,5. Brady is far and away the best Qb to make reads and accurate throws. I know that may blow your mind but our other QBs just don't have the ability to read and throw outside nearly like Brady can. They can run more but the offense is designed to pass first and run downhill in the second half. This is not a true spread option attack like you all seem to think. This offense is not designed to have to run with the QB. It's would be preferred for the QB to be able to keep the D honest on the read every now and then and I'm sure coach would prefer Brady to be able to run a little better but he will take a smart QB who can throw outside and read the D before a QB would cam run the zone read. Hence why Brady is starting and other more mobile options are playing behind him

Brady G is going to the NFL next year of course hes our starter
 
The_Real_Chief said:
Brady G is going to the NFL next year of course hes our starter


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mtgrizfankb said:
Ursus1 said:
nzone said:
And yet BG is the best QB we have to run this offense? :oops: :shock:

Amazes me

Yes he is. Because this offense is based on reading the defense and making the correct choice out of 2,3,4,5. Brady is far and away the best Qb to make reads and accurate throws. I know that may blow your mind but our other QBs just don't have the ability to read and throw outside nearly like Brady can. They can run more but the offense is designed to pass first and run downhill in the second half. This is not a true spread option attack like you all seem to think. This offense is not designed to have to run with the QB. It's would be preferred for the QB to be able to keep the D honest on the read every now and then and I'm sure coach would prefer Brady to be able to run a little better but he will take a smart QB who can throw outside and read the D before a QB would cam run the zone read. Hence why Brady is starting and other more mobile options are playing behind him

:thumb: :clap:
 
Brady is a rhythm thrower - meaning he needs to build on early successes, get himself into the groove so to speak. His accuracy suffers significantly under duress, when the receivers aren't where they're suppose to be, and when the running game isn't a consistent factor. It's on Stitt to help him build some kind of rhythm and a running game behind an effective line to balance things. Poly will be coming after him, which was their game plan for the last couple of weeks in this new defense.

If Brady has another day like the last time they played CPSLO, making a DB into player of the week by throwing him three picks, the Not-For-Long league won't be much but a vague memory next spring.
 
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