FLINK SCOOP & SCORE

[jacobj6]

Should NOT have been called back.
QB’’s knee/lower leg never touched the turf.

Only one camera angle had any view of it. See link to frame-by-frame video. His knee comes close, but he gets rolled/twisted around by Hill’s ankle tackle which prevents the ball carrier’s knee/lower leg from ever making affirmative contact with the ground.

Call on the field was fumble recovered for touch down. There’s absolutely no angle showing he was certainly down, let alone conclusive evidence enough to overturn the call. Complete fumble in both the QB’s part and the officiating crew

 

[Grisly Fan]

Agree. To overturn a call, evidence must be conclusive. The only camera angle was anything but. What do you expect from Pig Sty referees?

 

[BelierPeaux]

Should NOT have been called back.
QB’’s knee/lower leg never touched the turf.

Only one camera angle had any view of it. See link to frame-by-frame video. His knee comes close, but he gets rolled/twisted around by Hill’s ankle tackle which prevents the ball carrier’s knee/lower leg from ever making affirmative contact with the ground.

Call on the field was fumble recovered for touch down. There’s absolutely no angle showing he was certainly down, let alone conclusive evidence enough to overturn the call. Complete fumble in both the QB’s part and the officiating crew

What link are you refering to?

At the game they showed it on the jumbotron after they reversed the call and it sure looked like his knee was down. But I do wear glasses...

 

[3-7-77]

Who cleans your glasses? :lol:
Not doubting anyone, I was, 'under the influence' by then, yelling and screaming at the TV.
No, I didn't record the game.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I watched the TV replay many times.
That knee touched before the ball came loose.
Hate to say it, but the officials got that one right.

 

[fenderbendr6]

The TV replay did have one angle that showed his knee was down before the ball came out, but it was very close. Not sure that one angle would be conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field, but have they changed the rule about a player who loses his helmet having to sit out a play? Maybe I'm wrong, but if that is a rule, their quarterback should not have been on the field to make the first down completion on the next play.

 

[EverettGriz]

Knee was most certainly down. One of the few replays the bsc will get correct this year

 

[DoubleNicks]

https://gogriz.com/galleries/footba...23-/braxton-hill-35-of-the-montana/3470/88350

Doesn't matter now but looks like his knee is up and the ball is out...

 

[AZGrizFan]

https://gogriz.com/galleries/footba...23-/braxton-hill-35-of-the-montana/3470/88350

Doesn't matter now but looks like his knee is up and the ball is out...

I believe his knee had ALREADY bounced off the carpet at that point.

 

[Griz2k]

https://gogriz.com/galleries/footba...23-/braxton-hill-35-of-the-montana/3470/88350

Doesn't matter now but looks like his knee is up and the ball is out...

I believe his knee had ALREADY bounced off the carpet at that point.

Yep, this. ^^^

Knee was clearly down before the ball came out.

 

[BWahlberg]

https://gogriz.com/galleries/footba...23-/braxton-hill-35-of-the-montana/3470/88350

Doesn't matter now but looks like his knee is up and the ball is out...

I believe his knee had ALREADY bounced off the carpet at that point.

The only replay I've seen sure showed what looked like his knee bouncing off the ground as well. Was there any other angle on the TV shot? We all know the conference can't really afford much for camera angles :lol:

 

[EverettGriz]

https://gogriz.com/galleries/footba...23-/braxton-hill-35-of-the-montana/3470/88350

Doesn't matter now but looks like his knee is up and the ball is out...

It occurred well prior to that. He put his knee down (almost in a kneeling fashion as you would to propose to someone), and then immediately got back up.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I watched the TV replay many times.
That knee touched before the ball came loose.
Hate to say it, but the officials got that one right.

Yeah it’s like the one call they got correct. Weird post to complain about the only right call they made lol.

 

[Mousegriz]

......and then it was 4th and 22. Griz go with 8 in coverage. Receiver drives 23 yards.....turns around.....and catches it front of 2 or 3 of the eight.

That play was pretty frustrating.

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

......and then it was 4th and 22. Griz go with 8 in coverage. Receiver drives 23 yards.....turns around.....and catches it front of 2 or 3 of the eight.

That play was pretty frustrating.

Frustrating for sure. I was glad to see the defensive adjustment by Bradford during the next 4th and long to send a little more pressure to force the issue.

 

[Mousegriz]

......and then it was 4th and 22. Griz go with 8 in coverage. Receiver drives 23 yards.....turns around.....and catches it front of 2 or 3 of the eight.

That play was pretty frustrating.

Frustrating for sure. I was glad to see the defensive adjustment by Bradford during the next 4th and long to send a little more pressure to force the issue.

I kinda wish the Griz didn't snap the ball with 20 seconds left on their last possession, used another minute of game clock and the game would have been over.

Weird time decide to force the pace. But Bobby, Pease and the smart guys know more than any of us.

 

[GrizTexas]

......and then it was 4th and 22. Griz go with 8 in coverage. Receiver drives 23 yards.....turns around.....and catches it front of 2 or 3 of the eight.

That play was pretty frustrating.

Frustrating for sure. I was glad to see the defensive adjustment by Bradford during the next 4th and long to send a little more pressure to force the issue.

I hate these "prevent" defenses ... wish this just got into their regular set with an extra DB so that the coverage feels more comfortable in their assignments and that there is less confusion.

 

[DoubleNicks]

It's close either way. :thumb: I didn't study kinesiology but the "bounce" back up from the knee initially seemed to me to be from the QB snapping his right hip forward which jerked his leg out and foot off the ground. But like I said, that was just my opinion.

EDIT: The nice thing about Youtube is you can adjust resolution and playback speed (albeit only 720p max and 0.25 max in this case).
[media]https://youtu.be/tqUpOpREqcY?si=5jLh_AnqwthcJ5VQ&t=1309[/media]
(Click "Watch on Youtube" so you don't lose quality from being embedded. Best view at the 21:49 timestamp. Adjust resolution and playback speed by clicking the Settings widget next to the closed caption "CC" button at the bottom.)

After rewatching again, I think you are all right about the knee hitting as there appears to be a puff of dust/rubber by his knee during the questionable part.

 

[jacobj6]

His knee did not bounce and did not touch earth. If you use clicker to frame by frame go through (forward and reverse) the camera angle from end zone, and zoom in, you’ll see the knee/leg rolls around as his body spins around, and there’s always a gap between the earth and his leg/knee (albeit a small gap at one point). It begins to go back up due to the spin of his body. It never touched earth.

With a quick view of it from our lovely TV crew cameras, it certainly looks as if it touched and came back up, but if you actually study the film, no touch occurred.

I’m reminded of the picture of a lion mother swallowing her baby cub. How appalling everyone assumes! But if viewed from all angles and with some level of cautious skepticism, the view from the other side reveals she’s simply holding her little cub by that nape of its neck, likely protecting it from nearby danger.