...five card stud...

[CFallsGriz]

The problem with posts like this is that it's Monday morning quarterbacking. Had the GRIZ attempted and missed the FG, or not gone on 4th and short but punted instead, there'd be just as many people pissed about those decisions.

This!

A whole lotta cry baby bed wetting going on last night and today.

If you find yourself surprised by what happened last night, football might not be your thing.

Right, because of course if you're not happy with a performance or outcome, no matter how you express that, you're "cry baby bed wetting."

Gotcha.

 

[George Ferguson]

Look, I don't necessarily disagree with the philosophy of taking points there. But I GUARANTEE that there would have been posters on this board starting threads saying "you gotta go for it, show confidence in your offense, not going to win a TD battle with FGs, blah blah blah". That's my entire point.

4th and 1, probably. 4th and 5 against that defense, not so much.

I thought they should have kicked the FG too. Everett isn't arguing should or shouldnt's. He's saying posters on this message board would have bitched if they did, especially if it was missed. And he's one hundred percent right.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Look, I don't necessarily disagree with the philosophy of taking points there. But I GUARANTEE that there would have been posters on this board starting threads saying "you gotta go for it, show confidence in your offense, not going to win a TD battle with FGs, blah blah blah". That's my entire point.

4th and 1, probably. 4th and 5 against that defense, not so much.

I thought they should have kicked the FG too. Everett isn't arguing should or shouldnt's. He's saying posters on this message board would have bitched if they did, especially if it was missed. And he's one hundred percent right.

Surely, because there are certain posters for whom NOTHING the team (and especially the coach) does is correct.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I think 63-10 would have really changed a lot of people's opinions of this team and staff, but all the NC talk would be annoying.

 

[IdaGriz01]

I think 63-10 would have really changed a lot of people's opinions of this team and staff, but all the NC talk would be annoying.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[AZGrizFan]

I think 63-10 would have really changed a lot of people's opinions of this team and staff, but all the NC talk would be annoying.

As always...under appreciated humor.


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[Coach]

Surely, because there are certain posters for whom NOTHING the team (and especially the coach) does is correct.

There are plenty of posters that watch the lack of fundamentals the last 3 years yet continue to make excuses or ignore the problems hoping they go away. There is nothing wrong with pointing out areas on the team that need work. It only looks excessive because there are many, many areas that need a lot of work.

 

[uofmman1122]

Surely, because there are certain posters for whom NOTHING the team (and especially the coach) does is correct.

There are plenty of posters that watch the lack of fundamentals the last 3 years yet continue to make excuses or ignore the problems hoping they go away. There is nothing wrong with pointing out areas on the team that need work. It only looks excessive because there are many, many areas that need a lot of work.

The problems have been here since Hauck left.

Blaming them on Stitt is misguided, but it is true that he hasn't fixed them, either.

 

[kemajic]

Surely, because there are certain posters for whom NOTHING the team (and especially the coach) does is correct.

There are plenty of posters that watch the lack of fundamentals the last 3 years yet continue to make excuses or ignore the problems hoping they go away. There is nothing wrong with pointing out areas on the team that need work. It only looks excessive because there are many, many areas that need a lot of work.

Well said.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Surely, because there are certain posters for whom NOTHING the team (and especially the coach) does is correct.

There are plenty of posters that watch the lack of fundamentals the last 3 years yet continue to make excuses or ignore the problems hoping they go away. There is nothing wrong with pointing out areas on the team that need work. It only looks excessive because there are many, many areas that need a lot of work.

If only the "fundamentals" issue was only three years old. Then you'd be spot on. :roll:

 

[AZDoc]

Now that I've sobered up from last night (lack of sleep from a newborn and bad beer makes me depressed) I can see that Stitt was placing faith in his offense to execute against one of the premier teams in College football. The Griz were converting and going for points. In that situation so many teams get bent out of shape trying to drum up anything they can against teams like Washington. Stitt didn't change and ran his offense. They had some success!

What concerns me most:

Oline not picking up A gap blitzes. There were times when the center just tapped the shoulder of a blitzing backer, letting him run free

WR drops. Too many times both this year and last drops at inopportune times have killed drives. That needs to be shored up. Now.

Taking care of the ball. Turnovers are killer. Nuff said.

I'll leave the D alone. They got a pick 6 and held a top tier offense to 49 offensive points. Their pick 6 and punt return are separate things.

Can't wait for opponents on our level of play. I'll still be grumpy, but that's me.

I agree, but after the 3rd or 4th time, I watched more closely. Those were then missed by the RB. I'm guessing that is the RB assignment on the pass protection call.

 

[Eriul]

Wait wtf people are still bitching about fourth downs from the game? Jesus I hate this place...

Listen sure if you're trying to win the game and you wanna play it by the book you go for the field goal.

Guess what? We were playing the best team the griz has ever played. We were never going to win that game so why not go for it on fourth down? It gives your offense more chances at executing against a great team. Who gives a rats ass if we lose by 60 or 53? The field goals don't change the game and the fact that people are still bitching about it is down right pathetic and they need to grow up

 

[PlayerRep]

A lot of posters on this board can't identify all the "fundamentals" that are lacking now, or that magically disappeared when Hauck left.

Let's see the list of missing fundamentals.

 

[kemajic]

Wait wtf people are still bitching about fourth downs from the game? Jesus I hate this place...

Listen sure if you're trying to win the game and you wanna play it by the book you go for the field goal.

Guess what? We were playing the best team the griz has ever played. We were never going to win that game so why not go for it on fourth down? It gives your offense more chances at executing against a great team. Who gives a rats ass if we lose by 60 or 53? The field goals don't change the game and the fact that people are still bitching about it is down right pathetic and they need to grow up

The point is not the end result. As stated in the original post, and either missed or ignored by you, at 21-10 and having just scored on a drive, the players stay inspired against an unbeatable foe for a few more series. I saw very little inspired play after that 4th down play was stuffed.

If you hate the place so much, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[PlayerRep]

Wait wtf people are still bitching about fourth downs from the game? Jesus I hate this place...

Listen sure if you're trying to win the game and you wanna play it by the book you go for the field goal.

Guess what? We were playing the best team the griz has ever played. We were never going to win that game so why not go for it on fourth down? It gives your offense more chances at executing against a great team. Who gives a rats ass if we lose by 60 or 53? The field goals don't change the game and the fact that people are still bitching about it is down right pathetic and they need to grow up

The point is not the end result. As stated in the original post, and either missed or ignored by you, at 21-10 and having just scored on a drive, the players stay inspired against an unbeatable foe for a few more series. I saw very little inspired play after that 4th down play was stuffed.

If you hate the place so much, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Or, Kem, this could be turned around on you. If you hate Stitt and the current state of the program so much, don't let the door hit. you on the way out. Jeez, Eriul is a good poster and good fan. Don't think she deserves that kind grief for that one. Why makes comments like that? No big deal; just a thought.

My view is that UM was never going to win the game. UM had converted some 3d/4th downs. Why not go big, and see what happens. Who wants or needs a FG against a team like UW. I can't imagine that not converting on the 4th down play, in this particular game, had any negative impact on the team's attitude. A TD at that time would have had a huge positive impact. When there is nothing to lose, go big or go home.

 

[CFallsGriz]

Wait wtf people are still bitching about fourth downs from the game? Jesus I hate this place...

Listen sure if you're trying to win the game and you wanna play it by the book you go for the field goal.

Guess what? We were playing the best team the griz has ever played. We were never going to win that game so why not go for it on fourth down? It gives your offense more chances at executing against a great team. Who gives a rats ass if we lose by 60 or 53? The field goals don't change the game and the fact that people are still bitching about it is down right pathetic and they need to grow up

The point is not the end result. As stated in the original post, and either missed or ignored by you, at 21-10 and having just scored on a drive, the players stay inspired against an unbeatable foe for a few more series. I saw very little inspired play after that 4th down play was stuffed.

If you hate the place so much, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

AMEN

 

[RayWill]

I loved the Gamble on 4th. you weren't going to win the game anyway. I remember during the Hauck days everyone complaining when he would take the field goal instead of going for it. He just should have called a different play on the last one.

 

[AZDoc]

We will never know as the players, if they would have liked the points or liked going on 4th down. I can tell you when I played, I/we would've like to go for it on 4th down. We would've wanted to continue the drive. I played in an "up" game...we lost. We knew we were going to lose, so wtf? Give it your all and see what happens. I think this was, no doubt, a learning game. These kids did some really good things:
multiple short yardage conversions
Moved the ball at times-minus drops, would've been better
Scored a TD...yeah, I agree was a weak down field call
Competed pretty well early with what would be a top tear college football team at the highest level
Had a pick-6
let the kids experience the highest level of football and play in a cool stadium
came out relatively healthy

We know the season starts week 4. This week, I will be at the game. Bringing my son, on his 13th birthday, to his first Wa-Griz experience. I hope to see Savannah State experience:
the highest level of FCS football
play in a cool stadium
drop some balls
get beat 63-7

Let's see how this turns out. Does no good to get on here, coach bash, player bash, poster bash, beer bash...until we see how things go against Ewoo. Can we play nice until then or are all the agendas going to continue out in full force, no matter what happens Saturday?

 

[Eriul]

Wait wtf people are still bitching about fourth downs from the game? Jesus I hate this place...

Listen sure if you're trying to win the game and you wanna play it by the book you go for the field goal.

Guess what? We were playing the best team the griz has ever played. We were never going to win that game so why not go for it on fourth down? It gives your offense more chances at executing against a great team. Who gives a rats ass if we lose by 60 or 53? The field goals don't change the game and the fact that people are still bitching about it is down right pathetic and they need to grow up

The point is not the end result. As stated in the original post, and either missed or ignored by you, at 21-10 and having just scored on a drive, the players stay inspired against an unbeatable foe for a few more series. I saw very little inspired play after that 4th down play was stuffed.

If you hate the place so much, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

you're absolutely delusional if you think the players drive and inspiration was determined by one play.

You give little credit to the players and the work and passion they put into their craft.

I would be willing to bet a great amount of money that the players almost universally would want to go for it on 4th down in that situation.

You are super hypocritical if you think that I'm the only one "missing or ignoring" points.

 

[zengriz]

...score at the field goal gamble 21-7...
...21-10 and who knows what's next...
...motivation come in many forms...
...somebody said..take the points...

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