First Game Discussion

[grizcountry420]

What does the secondary look like for Montana this year?

UM has been very weak at the CB position since Trumaine Johnson's senior season. But, we should be very much improved there this season (FINALLY, I might add)! However, we are weak at the safety positive. There are big hopes for one of our young safeties to emerge as a force this season after a very strong showing in spring scrimmages. But you how that goes. Big difference between intra-squad scrimmages and real-time play.

I think Yaman Sanders will get the start at safety.

+1

 

[Htowngriz]

I have a feeling we're going to need to score more points than them to win.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Az:
You named a boatload of players that were recruited mostly by Hauck right? I understand that Pflu's recruits are just beginning to cycle out and Delaney's will start to move on in a year or two. But do you really believe that there are players from the recruiting classes of the last five years that are at that level of the players you just referred to? Even if there is one or two that might get an NFL shot, the amount of NFL players that Hauck recruited and developed is impressive. You can talk about the new offensive and defensive systems, the scholarship reductions etc. as having an impact on recruiting. That's an alternative viewpoint. But from my point of view, it is difficult to argue that Hauck's teams didn't have more talent and depth. NFL players, conference championships and National Title Game appearances are indicative of something......

Hauck's recruiting classes had a greater number of high-quality players than either Pflu or Delaney. But, they came at a price, as he recruited quite a few kids that were criminals (especially his drop-downs), who were passed over by bigger programs due to character issues. I am sure that we all remember that aspect of Bobby's teams. Playa Rape wanted Bobby to be re-hired. And, if he had been, we would have returned to recruiting those questionable kids.

I would agree that there were some reaches in terms of character. But for UM to dominate like they did during Hauck's tenure, that might be expected. I liken Hauck to "Tark The Shark" during the early years of UNLV basketball. You don't take a commuter school like UNLV to the Final Four in five or six years without taking some chances. If you had talent, Tark overlooked your personal baggage. Maybe
the same could have been said about Hauck but his teams DID have great talent, especially for the FCS.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

This is EZ...3rd downs (convert on O and get off the field on D) and win the turnover battle. This is the key to every game.

Why did you have to make it so extremely precise/correct? :clap:

 

[PhxGriz]

I have a feeling we're going to need to score more points than them to win.

:lol:

 

[brewskis]

brewski, how do you get that impression they just won the nat. championship and in most publications i've seen they are preseason no.1

Bohl built up a program that consisted consistently good recruiting classes with all his assistants. Klieman rode those recruiting classes and momentum last year, didn't take much work. But every one of Bohl's staff left NDSU to Wyoming, except Klieman. I simply don't think that he can keep doing the job that Bohl did, especially after they lost big to UNI last year.

Lol at this. Klieman was seen among his peers as being one of the best defensive coordinators in the FCS. I know several players who played for Bohl and had a cousin play there. They hated Bohl's guts and played for Klieman or Vigen. Travis Beck was always quoted with calling his coach Coach Klieman. Klieman was also known as being a great recruiter and produced what appears to be a phenomenal recruiting class this year.

Klieman took over after losing 24 seniors, losing the winningest QB in FCS history, 4/5 offensive lineman and some of the best defensive players to ever for NDSU, and lead them to a 14-1 record and national championship. Bohl also ravaged the cupboard of long time assistants, and Klieman was able to replace them with as good if not better coaches and has retained every one of his assistants for this year. Bad coaches would not have been able to do that.

I'm not trying to knock Klieman's defensive reputation, that would be an impossible argument to win. But think of this, Bohl was the Defensive Coordinator at Nebraska during their most successful years, don't you think he had something to do with NDSU's defensive success during his tenure in Fargo? Bohl is one hell of a HC, there's no arguing that, and NDSU loved him.

The hiring of Klieman was obviously an attempt to not change Bohl's formula. I hate to say it but that's a bit of a weak move. It worked for one year sure, that didn't surprise me...Bohl built a stable of great players and they didn't have to learn a new system, Klieman kept everything the same. I just don't think he's going to keep it going.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

brewski, how do you get that impression they just won the nat. championship and in most publications i've seen they are preseason no.1

Bohl built up a program that consisted consistently good recruiting classes with all his assistants. Klieman rode those recruiting classes and momentum last year, didn't take much work. But every one of Bohl's staff left NDSU to Wyoming, except Klieman. I simply don't think that he can keep doing the job that Bohl did, especially after they lost big to UNI last year.

Lol at this. Klieman was seen among his peers as being one of the best defensive coordinators in the FCS. I know several players who played for Bohl and had a cousin play there. They hated Bohl's guts and played for Klieman or Vigen. Travis Beck was always quoted with calling his coach Coach Klieman. Klieman was also known as being a great recruiter and produced what appears to be a phenomenal recruiting class this year.

Klieman took over after losing 24 seniors, losing the winningest QB in FCS history, 4/5 offensive lineman and some of the best defensive players to ever for NDSU, and lead them to a 14-1 record and national championship. Bohl also ravaged the cupboard of long time assistants, and Klieman was able to replace them with as good if not better coaches and has retained every one of his assistants for this year. Bad coaches would not have been able to do that.

I'm not trying to knock Klieman's defensive reputation, that would be an impossible argument to win. But think of this, Bohl was the Defensive Coordinator at Nebraska during their most successful years, don't you think he had something to do with NDSU's defensive success during his tenure in Fargo? Bohl is one hell of a HC, there's no arguing that, and NDSU loved him.

The hiring of Klieman was obviously an attempt to not change Bohl's formula. I hate to say it but that's a bit of a weak move. It worked for one year sure, that didn't surprise me...Bohl built a stable of great players and they didn't have to learn a new system, Klieman kept everything the same. I just don't think he's going to keep it going.

They said the same thing about George Seifert in San Francisco.....

 

[UCLAALUM]

Make their QB throw it, and watch our secondary have a field day!!!!!