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[Cuervohola]

I just stated 100% truth. Who recruited JLM?

So you want to argue that Stitt didn't get a chance to rebuild by saying his best win was his 1st game and his best season was with the Senior class the previous coach left him. And compare this to a coach rebuilding a program because of the deficient upper classes left by Stitt, and a second season with mostly kids that he brought in, won more games than Stitt did in any season. And, to put the cherry on it, you want to praise him for a single walk-on that he didn't even think was worth a scholarship. Sound argument.

Before you post, figure out who is saying what.

You can always make the case that the current coach has to deal with leftovers, unless they cut every single player and start from scratch, which has never happened, unless you can point it out, which makes that a non subject.

Then you have Bobby, who brings the SAFETIES up to the line constantly. Guess who took advantage of that?

So since the rebuild argument was a no go, you want work on another argument? Sound argument.

Apparently it's you that can't argue his way out of his basket. You're saying there's no problem with Bobby "Mr. Rogers" Hauck being given the green light to rebuild, but it was unacceptable to let Stitt have that luxury...

Why?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

So you want to argue that Stitt didn't get a chance to rebuild by saying his best win was his 1st game and his best season was with the Senior class the previous coach left him. And compare this to a coach rebuilding a program because of the deficient upper classes left by Stitt, and a second season with mostly kids that he brought in, won more games than Stitt did in any season. And, to put the cherry on it, you want to praise him for a single walk-on that he didn't even think was worth a scholarship. Sound argument.

Before you post, figure out who is saying what.

You can always make the case that the current coach has to deal with leftovers, unless they cut every single player and start from scratch, which has never happened, unless you can point it out, which makes that a non subject.

Then you have Bobby, who brings the SAFETIES up to the line constantly. Guess who took advantage of that?

So since the rebuild argument was a no go, you want work on another argument? Sound argument.

Apparently it's you that can't argue his way out of his basket. You're saying there's no problem with Bobby "Mr. Rogers" Hauck being given the green light to rebuild, but it was unacceptable to let Stitt have that luxury...

Why?

Stitt did have the luxury, and after 3 seasons failed.

 

[Copper Griz]

Calm the hell down: Shit happens. the bobcats just happened to be on a roll. Don't get me wrong as i have hated them for 62 years. This kinda stuff happens to all teams.That is why it is called upsets..Go Griz, keep your dobber up. Looking forward to the play-offs,

You sir are far too reasonable!! Choate has his guys up front and his efforts showed. Bobby is still relying on offensive linemen who were QB’s out of high school and at The NAIA level. Clearly not there yet. Fair weather fans forget what building means. Not to mention - the BSC is one of the two toughest conferences in FBS right now. Going to take some time. Amazes me Stitt’s name comes up at anytime - other than when the word “mistake” is attached to it. So many errors the past ten years and Hauck is cleaning it all up on aisle 5. Moronic fans saying he can’t get it done or should be fired should be “Band” for a day or two.

 

[Cuervohola]

Before you post, figure out who is saying what.

You can always make the case that the current coach has to deal with leftovers, unless they cut every single player and start from scratch, which has never happened, unless you can point it out, which makes that a non subject.

Then you have Bobby, who brings the SAFETIES up to the line constantly. Guess who took advantage of that?

So since the rebuild argument was a no go, you want work on another argument? Sound argument.

Apparently it's you that can't argue his way out of his basket. You're saying there's no problem with Bobby "Mr. Rogers" Hauck being given the green light to rebuild, but it was unacceptable to let Stitt have that luxury...

Why?

Stitt did have the luxury, and after 3 seasons failed.

Ok, so Bobby has one year left.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

So since the rebuild argument was a no go, you want work on another argument? Sound argument.

Apparently it's you that can't argue his way out of his basket. You're saying there's no problem with Bobby "Mr. Rogers" Hauck being given the green light to rebuild, but it was unacceptable to let Stitt have that luxury...

Why?

Stitt did have the luxury, and after 3 seasons failed.

Ok, so Bobby has one year left.

Well, I would say that even with the loss today, the 9 win season is a step in the right direction. The Stitt era went straight down after game 1.

 

[RobGriz]

Apparently it's you that can't argue his way out of his basket. You're saying there's no problem with Bobby "Mr. Rogers" Hauck being given the green light to rebuild, but it was unacceptable to let Stitt have that luxury...

Why?

Stitt did have the luxury, and after 3 seasons failed.

Ok, so Bobby has one year left.

Well, I would say that even with the loss today, the 9 win season is a step in the right direction. The Stitt era went straight down after game 1.

You’d be correct. Don’t try to reason with the Stittheads. They don’t understand football so well

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Stitt did have the luxury, and after 3 seasons failed.

Ok, so Bobby has one year left.

Well, I would say that even with the loss today, the 9 win season is a step in the right direction. The Stitt era went straight down after game 1.

You’d be correct. Don’t try to reason with the Stittheads. They don’t understand football so well

I am not sure if they are Stittheads or Anyone But Hauckers

 

[RobGriz]

Ok, so Bobby has one year left.

Well, I would say that even with the loss today, the 9 win season is a step in the right direction. The Stitt era went straight down after game 1.

You’d be correct. Don’t try to reason with the Stittheads. They don’t understand football so well

I am not sure if they are Stittheads or Anyone But Hauckers

Doesn’t really matter, either way LOL

 

[Cuervohola]

Apparently it's you that can't argue his way out of his basket. You're saying there's no problem with Bobby "Mr. Rogers" Hauck being given the green light to rebuild, but it was unacceptable to let Stitt have that luxury...

Why?

Stitt did have the luxury, and after 3 seasons failed.

Ok, so Bobby has one year left.

Well, I would say that even with the loss today, the 9 win season is a step in the right direction. The Stitt era went straight down after game 1.

Normally, yes... What happens when the coaching becomes so stagnant that it's predictable?

Today happens. Everybody in the BSC saw ALL year long that Bobby brings the Safeties up to the line, undoubtedly to get his son some more of the action. The teams that had the talent to take advantage of that did. (And will in the future)... If that's on the DC, it's still on Bobby because he lets it happen.

5 games that I remember, maybe more... Bobby didn't go for FG's, which can actually carry some momentum.

The most GLARING problem all year was that Bobby turned into Mr. Rogers in his feel good welcome home "Won't you be my neighbor, Montana State?"

"And I just think it’s become a little bit overbearing, frankly, so, you know. It’s a big game. We’re going to try hard to win it."

What did Choate and his boss probably say? "Stick a steak in their F'N eyes and twist it until it bleeds, then F'N twist it again." "Mercy is for the weak."

This is much worse a day than when he lost all of his NC appearances. He was a Coach then.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Stitt did have the luxury, and after 3 seasons failed.

Ok, so Bobby has one year left.

Well, I would say that even with the loss today, the 9 win season is a step in the right direction. The Stitt era went straight down after game 1.

Normally, yes... What happens when the coaching becomes so stagnant that it's predictable?

Today happens. Everybody in the BSC saw ALL year long that Bobby brings the Safeties up to the line, undoubtedly to get his son some more of the action. The teams that had the talent to take advantage of that did. (And will in the future)... If that's on the DC, it's still on Bobby because he lets it happen.

5 games that I remember, maybe more... Bobby didn't go for FG's, which can actually carry some momentum.

The most GLARING problem all year was that Bobby turned into Mr. Rogers in his feel good welcome home "Won't you be my neighbor, Montana State?"

"And I just think it’s become a little bit overbearing, frankly, so, you know. It’s a big game. We’re going to try hard to win it."

What did Choate and his boss probably say? "Stick a steak in their F'N eyes and twist it until it bleeds, then F'N twist it again." "Mercy is for the weak."

This is much worse a day than when he lost all of his NC appearances. He was a Coach then.

So a new argument. Sound.

 

[Rxgrzz]

We had some impressive wins this year. Something went wrong today

 

[Cuervohola]

Ok, so Bobby has one year left.

Well, I would say that even with the loss today, the 9 win season is a step in the right direction. The Stitt era went straight down after game 1.

Normally, yes... What happens when the coaching becomes so stagnant that it's predictable?

Today happens. Everybody in the BSC saw ALL year long that Bobby brings the Safeties up to the line, undoubtedly to get his son some more of the action. The teams that had the talent to take advantage of that did. (And will in the future)... If that's on the DC, it's still on Bobby because he lets it happen.

5 games that I remember, maybe more... Bobby didn't go for FG's, which can actually carry some momentum.

The most GLARING problem all year was that Bobby turned into Mr. Rogers in his feel good welcome home "Won't you be my neighbor, Montana State?"

"And I just think it’s become a little bit overbearing, frankly, so, you know. It’s a big game. We’re going to try hard to win it."

What did Choate and his boss probably say? "Stick a steak in their F'N eyes and twist it until it bleeds, then F'N twist it again." "Mercy is for the weak."

This is much worse a day than when he lost all of his NC appearances. He was a Coach then.

So a new argument. Sound.

So, you can't dispute anything I say, so you type a one liner. Okie Dokie.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Well, I would say that even with the loss today, the 9 win season is a step in the right direction. The Stitt era went straight down after game 1.

Normally, yes... What happens when the coaching becomes so stagnant that it's predictable?

Today happens. Everybody in the BSC saw ALL year long that Bobby brings the Safeties up to the line, undoubtedly to get his son some more of the action. The teams that had the talent to take advantage of that did. (And will in the future)... If that's on the DC, it's still on Bobby because he lets it happen.

5 games that I remember, maybe more... Bobby didn't go for FG's, which can actually carry some momentum.

The most GLARING problem all year was that Bobby turned into Mr. Rogers in his feel good welcome home "Won't you be my neighbor, Montana State?"

"And I just think it’s become a little bit overbearing, frankly, so, you know. It’s a big game. We’re going to try hard to win it."

What did Choate and his boss probably say? "Stick a steak in their F'N eyes and twist it until it bleeds, then F'N twist it again." "Mercy is for the weak."

This is much worse a day than when he lost all of his NC appearances. He was a Coach then.

So a new argument. Sound.

So, you can't dispute anything I say, so you type a one liner. Okie Dokie.

I am just tired, since you have changed your argument 3 or 4 times already.

 

[berzerker]

You mean the ones that don't think a 9 win playoff season 2 years after the previous coach hit the program low point of the past 30 years?

I consider this loss as the lowest in 30 years.

I guess you are a "beat state guy" as opposed to a "make the playoffs guy". That previous guy struggled to accomplish either.

Yes. It should always be, beat the kitties and then worry about playoffs.

I had the privilege of being at the game. We were on our heals from the 1st snap to the end of the game of course. It's such a privilege to be a fan of GRIZ athletics and our school of which I've been fo 58 years. We're so much better than the cat fans. Numerous times I was tormented by cat fans of all ages. This loss will be vindicated many times over and we are better all around. Naysayers don't get the big picture regarding the neat deal we have as GRIZ fans. We're OK.

 

[Cuervohola]

Normally, yes... What happens when the coaching becomes so stagnant that it's predictable?

Today happens. Everybody in the BSC saw ALL year long that Bobby brings the Safeties up to the line, undoubtedly to get his son some more of the action. The teams that had the talent to take advantage of that did. (And will in the future)... If that's on the DC, it's still on Bobby because he lets it happen.

5 games that I remember, maybe more... Bobby didn't go for FG's, which can actually carry some momentum.

The most GLARING problem all year was that Bobby turned into Mr. Rogers in his feel good welcome home "Won't you be my neighbor, Montana State?"

"And I just think it’s become a little bit overbearing, frankly, so, you know. It’s a big game. We’re going to try hard to win it."

What did Choate and his boss probably say? "Stick a steak in their F'N eyes and twist it until it bleeds, then F'N twist it again." "Mercy is for the weak."

This is much worse a day than when he lost all of his NC appearances. He was a Coach then.

So a new argument. Sound.

So, you can't dispute anything I say, so you type a one liner. Okie Dokie.

I am just tired, since you have changed your argument 3 or 4 times already.

No, I'm adding to Hauck's faults. He needs to retire and let someone take over that has Fire in his belly to win... You TELL ME how his above quote is an indication of someone that wants to win...

He OBVIOUSLY Laid down, MSU saw it and talked about it ALL WEEK, probably over mega phones, and they STOMPED him.

What part of that aren't you understanding?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

So a new argument. Sound.

So, you can't dispute anything I say, so you type a one liner. Okie Dokie.

I am just tired, since you have changed your argument 3 or 4 times already.

No, I'm adding to Hauck's faults. He needs to retire and let someone take over that has Fire in his belly to win... You TELL ME how his above quote is an indication of someone that wants to win...

He OBVIOUSLY Laid down, MSU saw it and talked about it ALL WEEK, probably over mega phones, and they STOMPED him.

What part of that aren't you understanding?

I quit reading after the second line since it was your 3 different argument. This is one time when try, try again until you succeed doesn't apply.

 

[berzerker]

So a new argument. Sound.

So, you can't dispute anything I say, so you type a one liner. Okie Dokie.

I am just tired, since you have changed your argument 3 or 4 times already.

No, I'm adding to Hauck's faults. He needs to retire and let someone take over that has Fire in his belly to win... You TELL ME how his above quote is an indication of someone that wants to win...

He OBVIOUSLY Laid down, MSU saw it and talked about it ALL WEEK, probably over mega phones, and they STOMPED him.

What part of that aren't you understanding?

You may have had too much alcohol. You think goofy statements about the depth of a rivalry game effects the overall demeanor of a team. They were flat and that's all.

 

[Cuervohola]

So, you can't dispute anything I say, so you type a one liner. Okie Dokie.

I am just tired, since you have changed your argument 3 or 4 times already.

No, I'm adding to Hauck's faults. He needs to retire and let someone take over that has Fire in his belly to win... You TELL ME how his above quote is an indication of someone that wants to win...

He OBVIOUSLY Laid down, MSU saw it and talked about it ALL WEEK, probably over mega phones, and they STOMPED him.

What part of that aren't you understanding?

I quit reading after the second line since it was your 3 different argument. This is one time when try, try again until you succeed doesn't apply.

Ok, so you give up just like Hauck. Got it.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I am just tired, since you have changed your argument 3 or 4 times already.

No, I'm adding to Hauck's faults. He needs to retire and let someone take over that has Fire in his belly to win... You TELL ME how his above quote is an indication of someone that wants to win...

He OBVIOUSLY Laid down, MSU saw it and talked about it ALL WEEK, probably over mega phones, and they STOMPED him.

What part of that aren't you understanding?

I quit reading after the second line since it was your 3 different argument. This is one time when try, try again until you succeed doesn't apply.

Ok, so you give up just like Hauck. Got it.

I am competing with stupid though.

 

[coochorama42]

Hey, I'm new to this board and an MSU fan, but I'm an MSU guy first, Montana guy second, and Big Sky Conference guy third. I've had season tickets to MSU since 1990 except for five years I lived abroad. This is easily the best effort I've ever seen out of an MSU team. A few thoughts...

MSU had an easy schedule for the 3 games prior to this one. UM had to play Weber last week, then get on a bus and play another top 10 team a week later. It isn't surprising UM came out flat.

This is a different game if Akem is healthy, especially with Troy Anderson injured. While Tyrell Thomas did an amazing job on Toure today in mostly single coverage, the Cats had no one healthy enough with the size to cover Akem. He was missed.

The Bobcat defense has quietly been astonishing since Sac State. You can make an argument they are the best defense in the FCS right now. Moreover, today Amandre Williams played the best football since he got to MSU. The pressure he provided changed the game.

All of this being said, your OC killed you today, not the defensive coordinator. Your defense was on the field for almost 40 minutes. The Cats offered you short passes and runs, but instead your OC wanted more. When this failed, it not only cost the Grizzlies possession, but also put your defense back on the field over and over again.

When I had beers with one of my Grizzly friends last Sunday, I told him that what the Bobcat lack in playmakers, they make up for it with depth. I told him that I thought MSU's only chance to win was if they could get the run game going and cycle through WR, RB, TE, D-Line, and LB. Everything UM did on offense played to MSU's strength. Because of rotations and favorable time-of-possession, individual players on the MSU D-Line were probably only on the field for 10 minutes this game.This resulted in them getting QB pressure without blitzing, giving them 7-8 players in coverage. I'm assuming Sneed isn't 100%; he was a sitting duck when pressured in that pocket. The ideal game plan against MSU, would have been full of short passes and runs with players moving laterally when receiving the ball, coupled with shuttle passes to keep the pass rush honest, and a few selectively timed big throws to the middle of the field. Instead, your OC forced the ball to the middle of the field even though that area was the most guarded. Given this, JLM should have been able to torch MSU today. Instead, he was a non-factor...