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Finishing the Season

Lord Vigo said:
I have to say, I am very excited to see Griz fans talking themselves into the Cats being overrated.
Goes hand in hand with all the cats fans on here for the last few weeks that had already buried the Griz as dead with no hopes of beating either Davis or Idaho.
 
Lord Vigo said:
I have to say, I am very excited to see Griz fans talking themselves into the Cats being overrated.

Just a little sobriety check for you. ALL of the teams MSU has defeated have losing records.
 
uofmman1122 said:
Lord Vigo said:
I have to say, I am very excited to see Griz fans talking themselves into the Cats being overrated.
Goes hand in hand with all the cats fans on here for the last few weeks that had already buried the Griz as dead with no hopes of beating either Davis or Idaho.

I saw a lot more Griz fans burying UM than Cat trolls.
 
Lord Vigo said:
griz4life said:
Just a little sobriety check for you. ALL of the teams MSU has defeated have losing records.

Yes! More of this!

You did manage to hang the same number of points on Cal Poly as Portland State did. Bravo there. And San Jose state. You whooped the Cal Poly 59ers. Way to go.
 
retiredpopo said:
i have said all along bsc will be decided on Nov 18 and Griz will win..only game I was worried about is in the books and clear sailing from here on out.

There’s literally no game left on the Griz schedule that they couldn’t both win or lose. UNC lost by a single score to sac, who beat Stanford, played tough against Idaho, and is definitely a well put together team. We have both on the schedule. PSU shellacked the NAU team that kicked our ass, and they did it in Flagstaff. PSU also played tough against a very good MSU. Then you have MSU, who is widely considered to be current FCS elite. The closest to a gimme game is UNC, but not one game on the schedule is a straight up slam dunk.
 
griz4life said:
Lord Vigo said:
Yes! More of this!

You did manage to hang the same number of points on Cal Poly as Portland State did. Bravo there. And San Jose state. You whooped the Cal Poly 59ers. Way to go.

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AZGrizFan said:
We have entered the point in the season where we find out what teams are made of. Montana has opened a lot of eyes with two consecutive road wins over ranked opponents (both in which they were betting dogs), while MSU has cruised through a cupcake schedule with powerful wins over Stetson, Utah Tech, Cal Poly, a badly weakened Weber and PSU (likely their best win to date).

The remaining schedule HEAVILY favors Montana. Griz have:

UNC @ home
Sac @ home
@ PSU
MSU at home

MSU, on the other hand, is entering the "real" part of their schedule:

@ Sac State
@ Idaho
NAU @ home
EWU @ home
@ Montana

Montana and MSU are the ONLY two teams in the conference that control their own destiny WRT a conference championship.

Granted anything can happen - so who knows here.

I really like that 3 of our last 4 are at home. I also like that we play UNC coming out of the bye because sometimes you see our guys with a bit of rust on them from the week off. Best to match up against a 0 or 1 win team (depending on how UNC does this weekend) rather than friggin Sac or MSU.

Seems to me that each game probably gets harder as we go, Sac at home tips us *some* advantage, PSU will likely be vying as a bubble playoff team when we meet them at their high school stadium.

The week before they play us:

UNC goes to Poly
Sac hosts ISU
PSU goes to Davis
Kitties host EWU

-------

The way I see it:

- If Montana goes 0-4 or 1-3 down the stretch , they're out.

- If Montana goes 2-2, they're most likely in at 8-3 because no matter how you dice up the 2 wins and 2 losses they'll either have another top 10 win and/or they'll have possibly pushed another team further closer to the bubble than they would be (presumably Sac or PSU).

- If Montana goes 3-1, they're a lock, and I think they're a low seed. That's where Sam Herder has us today in his latest brackets, a 6 seed. The seed could go higher if that 1 loss is MSU and it's a close game. I could also see the committee sinking us out of a seed if MSU boat races us.

- If Montana somehow/someway goes 4-0 and wins the conference... we're talking a 1 or 2 seed depending on how the MVFC shapes out.

And I know but putting that all in the air - some wild stuff that I didn't predict will happen and none of my projections will matter. Again, just a fan hypothesizing on UM's best routes for the playoffs, not sure actually which route we'll fully go. After the UNC game all 3 of those last games REALLY worry me.
 
griz4life said:
Lord Vigo said:
I have to say, I am very excited to see Griz fans talking themselves into the Cats being overrated.

Just a little sobriety check for you. ALL of the teams MSU has defeated have losing records.

Back handed slap to the mouth. :lol: :thumb: :punch:
 
Lord Vigo said:
uofmman1122 said:
Goes hand in hand with all the cats fans on here for the last few weeks that had already buried the Griz as dead with no hopes of beating either Davis or Idaho.

I saw a lot more Griz fans burying UM than Cat trolls.
I see only a handful of Griz fans seriously suggesting the cats aren't good, but you know, whatever you need, man.
 
PTGrizzly said:
grizfan07 said:
As most of us believe at this point, the season, conference title, and home field for playoffs will be decided on November 18th regardless of Idaho's record. When Montana beats Sac, that derails their title hopes completely, MSU beats Idaho, that derails them completely. And finally, UM beats MSU, Griz secure the conference title and most likely a top 3 seed. I'm optimistic, but like said on the pod, I think MSU is riding on false confidence. They have not beat a team yet with a winning record. Don't get me wrong, they are a well coached, extremely tough team, but they have the real part of their schedule starting.

I hate to be this guy, but MSU did play SDSU real close on the road. Nobody else that SDSU has played has been relatively close.

First off way to go Griz! Good win. the BSC is at its best when UM & MSU are at the top. MSU was 1 play away from winning at SDSU (a controversial call to boot) & they had numerous opportunities to win that game. Vigen decided to close up the playbook & run A gap all night and it nearly worked. MSU dominated line play in the 4th quarter and played even through 3 in a back and forth game. If you haven't watched the Cats yet this year, watch the 4th quarter of the SDSU game (hell, watch the whole game, it's a fantastic contest) or watch the PSU game. PSU by the way is a really good team. You don't have an idea of how strong & deep MSU is right now if you haven't watched them. They're a ton better this year than last year. Griz looked good & I hope they continue to find ways to win.
 
BWahlberg said:
AZGrizFan said:
We have entered the point in the season where we find out what teams are made of. Montana has opened a lot of eyes with two consecutive road wins over ranked opponents (both in which they were betting dogs), while MSU has cruised through a cupcake schedule with powerful wins over Stetson, Utah Tech, Cal Poly, a badly weakened Weber and PSU (likely their best win to date).

The remaining schedule HEAVILY favors Montana. Griz have:

UNC @ home
Sac @ home
@ PSU
MSU at home

MSU, on the other hand, is entering the "real" part of their schedule:

@ Sac State
@ Idaho
NAU @ home
EWU @ home
@ Montana

Montana and MSU are the ONLY two teams in the conference that control their own destiny WRT a conference championship.

Granted anything can happen - so who knows here.

I really like that 3 of our last 4 are at home. I also like that we play UNC coming out of the bye because sometimes you see our guys with a bit of rust on them from the week off. Best to match up against a 0 or 1 win team (depending on how UNC does this weekend) rather than friggin Sac or MSU.

Seems to me that each game probably gets harder as we go, Sac at home tips us *some* advantage, PSU will likely be vying as a bubble playoff team when we meet them at their high school stadium.

The week before they play us:

UNC goes to Poly
Sac hosts ISU
PSU goes to Davis
Kitties host EWU

-------

The way I see it:

- If Montana goes 0-4 or 1-3 down the stretch , they're out.

- If Montana goes 2-2, they're most likely in at 8-3 because no matter how you dice up the 2 wins and 2 losses they'll either have another top 10 win and/or they'll have possibly pushed another team further closer to the bubble than they would be (presumably Sac or PSU).

- If Montana goes 3-1, they're a lock, and I think they're a low seed. That's where Sam Herder has us today in his latest brackets, a 6 seed. The seed could go higher if that 1 loss is MSU and it's a close game. I could also see the committee sinking us out of a seed if MSU boat races us.

- If Montana somehow/someway goes 4-0 and wins the conference... we're talking a 1 or 2 seed depending on how the MVFC shapes out.

And I know but putting that all in the air - some wild stuff that I didn't predict will happen and none of my projections will matter. Again, just a fan hypothesizing on UM's best routes for the playoffs, not sure actually which route we'll fully go. After the UNC game all 3 of those last games REALLY worry me.

Something interesting that I just realized today in another article….Griz have 4 wins over teams with winning records already. I believe we only had 1-2 total all of last year. We are also the only team in the entire nation with 2 ranked wins on the road.

An 8-3 Griz team is 100% in the playoffs based on that resume. As we learned the D2 win isn’t thrown out anll together and does count on some level although not as much as a D1 win. A 7-4 Griz team is more on the bubble for sure. Have to go 2-2 in last 4.
 
Bear Spray said:
PTGrizzly said:

I hate to be this guy, but MSU did play SDSU real close on the road. Nobody else that SDSU has played has been relatively close.

First off way to go Griz! Good win. the BSC is at its best when UM & MSU are at the top. MSU was 1 play away from winning at SDSU (a controversial call to boot) & they had numerous opportunities to win that game. Vigen decided to close up the playbook & run A gap all night and it nearly worked. MSU dominated line play in the 4th quarter and played even through 3 in a back and forth game. If you haven't watched the Cats yet this year, watch the 4th quarter of the SDSU game (hell, watch the whole game, it's a fantastic contest) or watch the PSU game. PSU by the way is a really good team. You don't have an idea of how strong & deep MSU is right now if you haven't watched them. They're a ton better this year than last year. Griz looked good & I hope they continue to find ways to win.

I’m still curious what cat fans find controversial about a receiver being out of bounds AND the QB throwing the ball past the line of scrimmage.
 
Wolf777 said:
Bear Spray said:
First off way to go Griz! Good win. the BSC is at its best when UM & MSU are at the top. MSU was 1 play away from winning at SDSU (a controversial call to boot) & they had numerous opportunities to win that game. Vigen decided to close up the playbook & run A gap all night and it nearly worked. MSU dominated line play in the 4th quarter and played even through 3 in a back and forth game. If you haven't watched the Cats yet this year, watch the 4th quarter of the SDSU game (hell, watch the whole game, it's a fantastic contest) or watch the PSU game. PSU by the way is a really good team. You don't have an idea of how strong & deep MSU is right now if you haven't watched them. They're a ton better this year than last year. Griz looked good & I hope they continue to find ways to win.

I’m still curious what cat fans find controversial about a receiver being out of bounds AND the QB throwing the ball past the line of scrimmage.

I couldn't tell you for certain. I watched it live and called it out. I watched another view later & it wasn't clear. If they watched the game, they saw he was OOB. It's a losers mentality to blame one play, one call, one injury, etc. for a loss. MSU had plenty of opportunities to win that game. Hoping for a rematch in January.
 
BWahlberg said:
AZGrizFan said:
We have entered the point in the season where we find out what teams are made of. Montana has opened a lot of eyes with two consecutive road wins over ranked opponents (both in which they were betting dogs), while MSU has cruised through a cupcake schedule with powerful wins over Stetson, Utah Tech, Cal Poly, a badly weakened Weber and PSU (likely their best win to date).

The remaining schedule HEAVILY favors Montana. Griz have:

UNC @ home
Sac @ home
@ PSU
MSU at home

MSU, on the other hand, is entering the "real" part of their schedule:

@ Sac State
@ Idaho
NAU @ home
EWU @ home
@ Montana

Montana and MSU are the ONLY two teams in the conference that control their own destiny WRT a conference championship.

Granted anything can happen - so who knows here.

I really like that 3 of our last 4 are at home. I also like that we play UNC coming out of the bye because sometimes you see our guys with a bit of rust on them from the week off. Best to match up against a 0 or 1 win team (depending on how UNC does this weekend) rather than friggin Sac or MSU.

Seems to me that each game probably gets harder as we go, Sac at home tips us *some* advantage, PSU will likely be vying as a bubble playoff team when we meet them at their high school stadium.

The week before they play us:

UNC goes to Poly
Sac hosts ISU
PSU goes to Davis
Kitties host EWU

-------

The way I see it:

- If Montana goes 0-4 or 1-3 down the stretch , they're out.

- If Montana goes 2-2, they're most likely in at 8-3 because no matter how you dice up the 2 wins and 2 losses they'll either have another top 10 win and/or they'll have possibly pushed another team further closer to the bubble than they would be (presumably Sac or PSU).

- If Montana goes 3-1, they're a lock, and I think they're a low seed. That's where Sam Herder has us today in his latest brackets, a 6 seed. The seed could go higher if that 1 loss is MSU and it's a close game. I could also see the committee sinking us out of a seed if MSU boat races us.

- If Montana somehow/someway goes 4-0 and wins the conference... we're talking a 1 or 2 seed depending on how the MVFC shapes out.

And I know but putting that all in the air - some wild stuff that I didn't predict will happen and none of my projections will matter. Again, just a fan hypothesizing on UM's best routes for the playoffs, not sure actually which route we'll fully go. After the UNC game all 3 of those last games REALLY worry me.

Fair assessment Brint.

Really interesting that 3 of the cats last 5 are on the road, which includes an 830 pm kickoff @ Sac State, then @ Idaho (1/4 at home for the vandals) and concluding in Missoula. The 2 home games are NAU and EWU who both seem to be Jekyll and Hyde teams this year, so we will see who shows up to Bozeman. I think their health will matter more than anything else.

SDSU is in a similar boat with 3 of 5 on the road with games at southern Illinois, South Dakota, and Youngstown State. Home game against NDSU which is always interesting even given their woes this year. Concluding the year with Missouri State.

Both teams will need to earn their top seeds. Should be interesting 5 week stretch to finish the year.
 
BWahlberg said:
AZGrizFan said:
We have entered the point in the season where we find out what teams are made of. Montana has opened a lot of eyes with two consecutive road wins over ranked opponents (both in which they were betting dogs), while MSU has cruised through a cupcake schedule with powerful wins over Stetson, Utah Tech, Cal Poly, a badly weakened Weber and PSU (likely their best win to date).

The remaining schedule HEAVILY favors Montana. Griz have:

UNC @ home
Sac @ home
@ PSU
MSU at home

MSU, on the other hand, is entering the "real" part of their schedule:

@ Sac State
@ Idaho
NAU @ home
EWU @ home
@ Montana

Montana and MSU are the ONLY two teams in the conference that control their own destiny WRT a conference championship.

Granted anything can happen - so who knows here.

I really like that 3 of our last 4 are at home. I also like that we play UNC coming out of the bye because sometimes you see our guys with a bit of rust on them from the week off. Best to match up against a 0 or 1 win team (depending on how UNC does this weekend) rather than friggin Sac or MSU.

Seems to me that each game probably gets harder as we go, Sac at home tips us *some* advantage, PSU will likely be vying as a bubble playoff team when we meet them at their high school stadium.

The week before they play us:

UNC goes to Poly
Sac hosts ISU
PSU goes to Davis
Kitties host EWU

-------

The way I see it:

- If Montana goes 0-4 or 1-3 down the stretch , they're out.

- If Montana goes 2-2, they're most likely in at 8-3 because no matter how you dice up the 2 wins and 2 losses they'll either have another top 10 win and/or they'll have possibly pushed another team further closer to the bubble than they would be (presumably Sac or PSU).

- If Montana goes 3-1, they're a lock, and I think they're a low seed. That's where Sam Herder has us today in his latest brackets, a 6 seed. The seed could go higher if that 1 loss is MSU and it's a close game. I could also see the committee sinking us out of a seed if MSU boat races us.

- If Montana somehow/someway goes 4-0 and wins the conference... we're talking a 1 or 2 seed depending on how the MVFC shapes out.

And I know but putting that all in the air - some wild stuff that I didn't predict will happen and none of my projections will matter. Again, just a fan hypothesizing on UM's best routes for the playoffs, not sure actually which route we'll fully go. After the UNC game all 3 of those last games REALLY worry me.

Good analysis and humility to boot. I think anyone overlooking any of the last 4 opponents is a damn fool. BSC teams are good this year again. Competitive and well coached for the most part. I think the Griz go 3-1. I am very nervous about UNC because the Griz seem to play flat after a buy week. Sac State and MSU worry me. MSU is very solid, but they really only had one tough game and it was the first of the year for both teams. Hard to truly gauge anything at that point in the season. I like to look at trend lines. Griz have a good trend line going. McDowell needs to work on throwing motion and his ball trajectory this week. The deep threat of Montana could be a problem for teams and opens up the running game. I believe the Griz receivers get separation and make something special happen in the next four games.
 
Copper Griz said:
BWahlberg said:
Granted anything can happen - so who knows here.

I really like that 3 of our last 4 are at home. I also like that we play UNC coming out of the bye because sometimes you see our guys with a bit of rust on them from the week off. Best to match up against a 0 or 1 win team (depending on how UNC does this weekend) rather than friggin Sac or MSU.

Seems to me that each game probably gets harder as we go, Sac at home tips us *some* advantage, PSU will likely be vying as a bubble playoff team when we meet them at their high school stadium.

The week before they play us:

UNC goes to Poly
Sac hosts ISU
PSU goes to Davis
Kitties host EWU

-------

The way I see it:

- If Montana goes 0-4 or 1-3 down the stretch , they're out.

- If Montana goes 2-2, they're most likely in at 8-3 because no matter how you dice up the 2 wins and 2 losses they'll either have another top 10 win and/or they'll have possibly pushed another team further closer to the bubble than they would be (presumably Sac or PSU).

- If Montana goes 3-1, they're a lock, and I think they're a low seed. That's where Sam Herder has us today in his latest brackets, a 6 seed. The seed could go higher if that 1 loss is MSU and it's a close game. I could also see the committee sinking us out of a seed if MSU boat races us.

- If Montana somehow/someway goes 4-0 and wins the conference... we're talking a 1 or 2 seed depending on how the MVFC shapes out.

And I know but putting that all in the air - some wild stuff that I didn't predict will happen and none of my projections will matter. Again, just a fan hypothesizing on UM's best routes for the playoffs, not sure actually which route we'll fully go. After the UNC game all 3 of those last games REALLY worry me.

Good analysis and humility to boot. I think anyone overlooking any of the last 4 opponents is a damn fool. BSC teams are good this year again. Competitive and well coached for the most part. I think the Griz go 3-1. I am very nervous about UNC because the Griz seem to play flat after a buy week. Sac State and MSU worry me. MSU is very solid, but they really only had one tough game and it was the first of the year for both teams. Hard to truly gauge anything at that point in the season. I like to look at trend lines. Griz have a good trend line going. McDowell needs to work on throwing motion and his ball trajectory this week. The deep threat of Montana could be a problem for teams and opens up the running game. I believe the Griz receivers get separation and make something special happen in the next four games.

I will never underestimate or overlook another Griz opponent, not the way Bobby coaches at the end of games. They’re ALL in it, potentially.

I’m worried about them in the following order:

MSU
PSU
Sac
UNC
 
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