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Financial Impact of no football in Missoula? No Fans in stands?

grizindabox said:
Robert Reich
@RBReich
The coronavirus stimulus package carved out $135,000,000,000 in tax breaks for millionaires.

That's *three times* as much money as was included for emergency housing and food relief.

When I say we have socialism for the rich, harsh capitalism for the rest, this is what I mean.

I think what Reich meant was the the stimulus helped businesses who employ a lot of people. The stimulus didn't go to milionaires.

My view is that my fellow Dartmouth guy Bob Reich is an idiot on economics. His is so political, that most of what he says should be disregarded.
 
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
Robert Reich
@RBReich
The coronavirus stimulus package carved out $135,000,000,000 in tax breaks for millionaires.

That's *three times* as much money as was included for emergency housing and food relief.

When I say we have socialism for the rich, harsh capitalism for the rest, this is what I mean.

I think what Reich meant was the the stimulus helped businesses who employ a lot of people. The stimulus didn't go to milionaires.

My view is that my fellow Dartmouth guy Bob Reich is an idiot. His is so political, that most of what he says should be disregarded.

PR, please, if you would be so kind, address your thoughts (and opinions are fine as you do have a great deal of credibility) this column and Epstein's column in the links at the bottom.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/15/we-all-live-bubbles-its-time-burst-them/?hpid=hp_opinions-for-wide-side_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

For what it's worth, imagine Mike Mansfield who taught at the U of M, returning in this political climate sitting with Jim Messina, someone raised in Boise, educated at the U of M and serving as Obama's campaign manager sitting at a dinner in the Montana Club in Helena. (How many trillion dollars are left overseas and offshore that will come back here come hell or high water?).
 
grizindabox said:
Robert Reich
@RBReich
The coronavirus stimulus package carved out $135,000,000,000 in tax breaks for millionaires.

That's *three times* as much money as was included for emergency housing and food relief.

When I say we have socialism for the rich, harsh capitalism for the rest, this is what I mean.

:thumb:
 
AllWeatherFan said:
grizindabox said:
Robert Reich
@RBReich
The coronavirus stimulus package carved out $135,000,000,000 in tax breaks for millionaires.

That's *three times* as much money as was included for emergency housing and food relief.

When I say we have socialism for the rich, harsh capitalism for the rest, this is what I mean.

:thumb:
Agree when it's clear it's not true; take it to the political thread.
 
65 schools in the Power 5. Since 1982 when the CFA sued the NCAA (okay, Oklahoma and Georgia) the rest of the NCAA member teams have been playing for crumbs and serving as fodder for the semi-pro teams these schools field for their athletic department's foundations. Their budgets are funded and managed separate from the state, for the most part. The coaches of these schools are attempting to give a portion of their money to the kids who play but the lawyers at the NCAA refuse to allow it. Hell, it's been since 1966 that a non-power 5 school actually won the NCAA basketball farce of a tournament. It's time for the Power 5 to leave the NCAA. All they do is humor us anyway.

A few articles that just touch on the disparity of the programs.

https://www.si.com/college/college-football


https://www.denverpost.com/2020/07/18/joe-parker-csu-rams-football-losing-2020-rocky-mountain-showdown/

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/29468590/some-not-all-coaches-share-colleges-burden-amid-coronavirus-pandemic
 
AllWeatherFan said:
grizindabox said:
Robert Reich
@RBReich
The coronavirus stimulus package carved out $135,000,000,000 in tax breaks for millionaires.

That's *three times* as much money as was included for emergency housing and food relief.

When I say we have socialism for the rich, harsh capitalism for the rest, this is what I mean.

:thumb:

Socialism takes money/income from companies and individuals, and allows the government to spend and distribute it.

Capitalism is the opposite. It allows companies/individuals to keep more of their money to invest or spend as they see fit.

Reduced taxes allows companies/people to keep more of their money. That's not socialism.

It's not socialism for the rich. By the way, the rich, including companies, employee and create most of the jobs for the rest of us.

Some of you need history, economics and political lessons.

For a Dartmouth guy, Robert Reich is pretty out to lunch.
 
CatGrad-UMGradStu said:
PlayerRep said:
I think what Reich meant was the the stimulus helped businesses who employ a lot of people. The stimulus didn't go to milionaires.

My view is that my fellow Dartmouth guy Bob Reich is an idiot. His is so political, that most of what he says should be disregarded.

PR, please, if you would be so kind, address your thoughts (and opinions are fine as you do have a great deal of credibility) this column and Epstein's column in the links at the bottom.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/15/we-all-live-bubbles-its-time-burst-them/?hpid=hp_opinions-for-wide-side_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

For what it's worth, imagine Mike Mansfield who taught at the U of M, returning in this political climate sitting with Jim Messina, someone raised in Boise, educated at the U of M and serving as Obama's campaign manager sitting at a dinner in the Montana Club in Helena. (How many trillion dollars are left overseas and offshore that will come back here come hell or high water?).

The country and dems/repubs are so divided that it is hard to even have an honest discussion. I've come to believe that the dems are worse in this regard, at this time. The liberals on campuses are overly PC and cause less discourse. Truly astonishing to me.

The mainstream media, while still writing many good articles, has become far too biased. I still get most of my info from NY Times, Wall St. Journal and WaPost, with diverse articles from Apple news. The media is unduly anti-Trump, in my view.

Knowing about Mansfield and knowing Messina a bit, I think they could have good discussions and discourse. Mansfield and my dad were friends when Mansfield was a history prof at UM.

While the US is the most diverse and least racist major country in world, and has made huge improvements over the decades, there is still some underlying racism. I wouldn't want to be black in America, or in any other major country. In my experience, Native Americans have been treated much worse than blacks in states like MT. My black Malmstrom air force/rugby buddies used to tell me that too.

I don't have the answers for the remaining problems in America regarding race. I believe in diversity and having diversity impact college and hiring decisions, as a factor, not the factor. I also understand the irony of allowing favoritism for diversity purposes, as someone white doesn't get that job or slot.

I wonder if US and liberal polices have inadvertently put/locked many blacks in housing projects and created ghetto-like conditions. Those are hard to get out of and perpetuate and create problems, big ones. While reservations have created low economic and jobless havens, I support the reservations because they maintain the Indian culture. The culture stays with the land and the people on it. Many reservations and hurting and messes, tho.

Black reparations are would ridiculous. Black Lives Matter has gone too far and has been taken over by people on the left wanting many other things. The initial idea of BLM had some positives and good ideas. Defund the police? Are you kidding me? I've never loved the police, but, of course, we need the police. I support the police. I went to a police support rally at the Polson courthouse a few weeks ago. From what I've read, including from some black writers, the data and stats don't support the mantra that the police are unduly prejudiced against or hard on black people.

The US needs to be able to discuss all matters. Progress could be made. Many problems in the US are solvable.

The US needs a strong economy. That lifts everyone and also gives the government more resources to provide assistance to those in need. The Trump economy was doing many of those things before covid. I won't vote for Trump because I dislike the guy and his actions so much, but I would like his economy and job market. I fear that Biden will never get the US back to a strong economy. The growth under Obama was one of the slowest ever, down with modern Japan. The US debt will be staggering. Raising taxes is going to hurt the economy.

We need much better early education. That is a key. The research and data show that kids who haven't caught up by 3d grade will probably never catch up.

Blacks and Native Americans need to take better charge of their growth and lives, like India Indians, Asians and even may Latinos. Providing opportunity to people is necessary and great, but giving too much to people is not, in my view.

And Box, your tag line is wrong. Thinking the system worked for oneself, is not the definition of privilege. The system has worked for many, including myself and many of my black friends, and virtually none of us had any privilege. We worked hard, did well in school, and often played sports. Some of us had good families who believed in education. The US system gave us the opportunity to succeed.
 
PlayerRep said:
CatGrad-UMGradStu said:
PR, please, if you would be so kind, address your thoughts (and opinions are fine as you do have a great deal of credibility) this column and Epstein's column in the links at the bottom.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/15/we-all-live-bubbles-its-time-burst-them/?hpid=hp_opinions-for-wide-side_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

For what it's worth, imagine Mike Mansfield who taught at the U of M, returning in this political climate sitting with Jim Messina, someone raised in Boise, educated at the U of M and serving as Obama's campaign manager sitting at a dinner in the Montana Club in Helena. (How many trillion dollars are left overseas and offshore that will come back here come hell or high water?).

The country and dems/repubs are so divided that it is hard to even have an honest discussion. I've come to believe that the dems are worse in this regard, at this time. The liberals on campuses are overly PC and cause less discourse. Truly astonishing to me.

The mainstream media, while still writing many good articles, has become far too biased. I still get most of my info from NY Times, Wall St. Journal and WaPost, with diverse articles from Apple news. The media is unduly anti-Trump, in my view.

Knowing about Mansfield and knowing Messina a bit, I think they could have good discussions and discourse. Mansfield and my dad were friends when Mansfield was a history prof at UM.

While the US is the most diverse and least racist major country in world, and has made huge improvements over the decades, there is still some underlying racism. I wouldn't want to be black in America, or in any other major country. In my experience, Native Americans have been treated much worse than blacks in states like MT. My black Malmstrom air force/rugby buddies used to tell me that too.

I don't have the answers for the remaining problems in America regarding race. I believe in diversity and having diversity impact college and hiring decisions, as a factor, not the factor. I also understand the irony of allowing favoritism for diversity purposes, as someone white doesn't get that job or slot.

I wonder if US and liberal polices have inadvertently put/locked many blacks in housing projects and created ghetto-like conditions. Those are hard to get out of and perpetuate and create problems, big ones. While reservations have created low economic and jobless havens, I support the reservations because they maintain the Indian culture. The culture stays with the land and the people on it. Many reservations and hurting and messes, tho.

Black reparations are would ridiculous. Black Lives Matter has gone too far and has been taken over by people on the left wanting many other things. The initial idea of BLM had some positives and good ideas. Defund the police? Are you kidding me? I've never loved the police, but, of course, we need the police. I support the police. I went to a police support rally at the Polson courthouse a few weeks ago. From what I've read, including from some black writers, the data and stats don't support the mantra that the police are unduly prejudiced against or hard on black people.

The US needs to be able to discuss all matters. Progress could be made. Many problems in the US are solvable.

The US needs a strong economy. That lifts everyone and also gives the government more resources to provide assistance to those in need. The Trump economy was doing many of those things before covid. I won't vote for Trump because I dislike the guy and his actions so much, but I would like his economy and job market. I fear that Biden will never get the US back to a strong economy. The growth under Obama was one of the slowest ever, down with modern Japan. The US debt will be staggering. Raising taxes is going to hurt the economy.

We need much better early education. That is a key. The research and data show that kids who haven't caught up by 3d grade will probably never catch up.

Blacks and Native Americans need to take better charge of their growth and lives, like India Indians, Asians and even may Latinos. Providing opportunity to people is necessary and great, but giving too much to people is not, in my view.

And Box, your tag line is wrong. Thinking the system worked for oneself, is not the definition of privilege. The system has worked for many, including myself and many of my black friends, and virtually none of us had any privilege. We worked hard, did well in school, and often played sports. Some of us had good families who believed in education. The US system gave us the opportunity to succeed.

Thank you, I appreciate all you've said. As Mandy Smoker Broaddus is this year's Montana Poet Laureate from your home, it is my belief it's more than time for you to not just share your experiences but to help some of our kids see the relevance of all an education can provide. Your books and lectures could help many of the kids just as Mandy and Denise have done nationally. Besides, Poplar is a beautiful prairie town. Take some time to share your journey please. The kids need not just their culture but a tangible connection to this false idea they live in two worlds.
 
PlayerRep said:
CatGrad-UMGradStu said:
PR, please, if you would be so kind, address your thoughts (and opinions are fine as you do have a great deal of credibility) this column and Epstein's column in the links at the bottom.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/15/we-all-live-bubbles-its-time-burst-them/?hpid=hp_opinions-for-wide-side_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

For what it's worth, imagine Mike Mansfield who taught at the U of M, returning in this political climate sitting with Jim Messina, someone raised in Boise, educated at the U of M and serving as Obama's campaign manager sitting at a dinner in the Montana Club in Helena. (How many trillion dollars are left overseas and offshore that will come back here come hell or high water?).

The country and dems/repubs are so divided that it is hard to even have an honest discussion. I've come to believe that the dems are worse in this regard, at this time. The liberals on campuses are overly PC and cause less discourse. Truly astonishing to me.

The mainstream media, while still writing many good articles, has become far too biased. I still get most of my info from NY Times, Wall St. Journal and WaPost, with diverse articles from Apple news. The media is unduly anti-Trump, in my view.

Knowing about Mansfield and knowing Messina a bit, I think they could have good discussions and discourse. Mansfield and my dad were friends when Mansfield was a history prof at UM.

While the US is the most diverse and least racist major country in world, and has made huge improvements over the decades, there is still some underlying racism. I wouldn't want to be black in America, or in any other major country. In my experience, Native Americans have been treated much worse than blacks in states like MT. My black Malmstrom air force/rugby buddies used to tell me that too.

I don't have the answers for the remaining problems in America regarding race. I believe in diversity and having diversity impact college and hiring decisions, as a factor, not the factor. I also understand the irony of allowing favoritism for diversity purposes, as someone white doesn't get that job or slot.

I wonder if US and liberal polices have inadvertently put/locked many blacks in housing projects and created ghetto-like conditions. Those are hard to get out of and perpetuate and create problems, big ones. While reservations have created low economic and jobless havens, I support the reservations because they maintain the Indian culture. The culture stays with the land and the people on it. Many reservations and hurting and messes, tho.

Black reparations are would ridiculous. Black Lives Matter has gone too far and has been taken over by people on the left wanting many other things. The initial idea of BLM had some positives and good ideas. Defund the police? Are you kidding me? I've never loved the police, but, of course, we need the police. I support the police. I went to a police support rally at the Polson courthouse a few weeks ago. From what I've read, including from some black writers, the data and stats don't support the mantra that the police are unduly prejudiced against or hard on black people.

The US needs to be able to discuss all matters. Progress could be made. Many problems in the US are solvable.

The US needs a strong economy. That lifts everyone and also gives the government more resources to provide assistance to those in need. The Trump economy was doing many of those things before covid. I won't vote for Trump because I dislike the guy and his actions so much, but I would like his economy and job market. I fear that Biden will never get the US back to a strong economy. The growth under Obama was one of the slowest ever, down with modern Japan. The US debt will be staggering. Raising taxes is going to hurt the economy.

We need much better early education. That is a key. The research and data show that kids who haven't caught up by 3d grade will probably never catch up.

Blacks and Native Americans need to take better charge of their growth and lives, like India Indians, Asians and even may Latinos. Providing opportunity to people is necessary and great, but giving too much to people is not, in my view.

And Box, your tag line is wrong. Thinking the system worked for oneself, is not the definition of privilege. The system has worked for many, including myself and many of my black friends, and virtually none of us had any privilege. We worked hard, did well in school, and often played sports. Some of us had good families who believed in education. The US system gave us the opportunity to succeed.

PR. Great comments, and I agree with you almost 100%. And, What a great way to look at it. I wouldn’t want to be a black man either (for all of the issues that still exist), but if I had to be a black man, there’s no better country on EARTH to be black than America. None. Zip. Nada. America is far from perfect, but it’s certainly the best place to be able to thrive and succeed as a POC.

Also, I get not liking Trump. I can’t stand the man, personally, but when you consider your very next sentence, it seems odd that you won’t vote for him. The alternative (economically) is far, far worse.
 
We are about to discover the impact of giving large tax breaks to corporations In the midst of record corporate profits.

Anybody care to make a prediction?
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
The country and dems/repubs are so divided that it is hard to even have an honest discussion. I've come to believe that the dems are worse in this regard, at this time. The liberals on campuses are overly PC and cause less discourse. Truly astonishing to me.

The mainstream media, while still writing many good articles, has become far too biased. I still get most of my info from NY Times, Wall St. Journal and WaPost, with diverse articles from Apple news. The media is unduly anti-Trump, in my view.

Knowing about Mansfield and knowing Messina a bit, I think they could have good discussions and discourse. Mansfield and my dad were friends when Mansfield was a history prof at UM.

While the US is the most diverse and least racist major country in world, and has made huge improvements over the decades, there is still some underlying racism. I wouldn't want to be black in America, or in any other major country. In my experience, Native Americans have been treated much worse than blacks in states like MT. My black Malmstrom air force/rugby buddies used to tell me that too.

I don't have the answers for the remaining problems in America regarding race. I believe in diversity and having diversity impact college and hiring decisions, as a factor, not the factor. I also understand the irony of allowing favoritism for diversity purposes, as someone white doesn't get that job or slot.

I wonder if US and liberal polices have inadvertently put/locked many blacks in housing projects and created ghetto-like conditions. Those are hard to get out of and perpetuate and create problems, big ones. While reservations have created low economic and jobless havens, I support the reservations because they maintain the Indian culture. The culture stays with the land and the people on it. Many reservations and hurting and messes, tho.

Black reparations are would ridiculous. Black Lives Matter has gone too far and has been taken over by people on the left wanting many other things. The initial idea of BLM had some positives and good ideas. Defund the police? Are you kidding me? I've never loved the police, but, of course, we need the police. I support the police. I went to a police support rally at the Polson courthouse a few weeks ago. From what I've read, including from some black writers, the data and stats don't support the mantra that the police are unduly prejudiced against or hard on black people.

The US needs to be able to discuss all matters. Progress could be made. Many problems in the US are solvable.

The US needs a strong economy. That lifts everyone and also gives the government more resources to provide assistance to those in need. The Trump economy was doing many of those things before covid. I won't vote for Trump because I dislike the guy and his actions so much, but I would like his economy and job market. I fear that Biden will never get the US back to a strong economy. The growth under Obama was one of the slowest ever, down with modern Japan. The US debt will be staggering. Raising taxes is going to hurt the economy.

We need much better early education. That is a key. The research and data show that kids who haven't caught up by 3d grade will probably never catch up.

Blacks and Native Americans need to take better charge of their growth and lives, like India Indians, Asians and even may Latinos. Providing opportunity to people is necessary and great, but giving too much to people is not, in my view.

And Box, your tag line is wrong. Thinking the system worked for oneself, is not the definition of privilege. The system has worked for many, including myself and many of my black friends, and virtually none of us had any privilege. We worked hard, did well in school, and often played sports. Some of us had good families who believed in education. The US system gave us the opportunity to succeed.

PR. Great comments, and I agree with you almost 100%. And, What a great way to look at it. I wouldn’t want to be a black man either (for all of the issues that still exist), but if I had to be a black man, there’s no better country on EARTH to be black than America. None. Zip. Nada. America is far from perfect, but it’s certainly the best place to be able to thrive and succeed as a POC.

Also, I get not liking Trump. I can’t stand the man, personally, but when you consider your very next sentence, it seems odd that you won’t vote for him. The alternative (economically) is far, far worse.

Did all you people of color get the memo from mr. white dude here? Y’all should feel privileged to be racially profiled and discriminated against in the country with the best institutional racism in the world, second to none many people are saying.. roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Az, why wouldn’t you want to be a black man? (Is one of those issues that still exists mocking the middle name
of our former black president?) asking for POC who still don’t know just how fortunate they are. thanks :thumb:
 
Dutch Lane said:
AZGrizFan said:
PR. Great comments, and I agree with you almost 100%. And, What a great way to look at it. I wouldn’t want to be a black man either (for all of the issues that still exist), but if I had to be a black man, there’s no better country on EARTH to be black than America. None. Zip. Nada. America is far from perfect, but it’s certainly the best place to be able to thrive and succeed as a POC.

Also, I get not liking Trump. I can’t stand the man, personally, but when you consider your very next sentence, it seems odd that you won’t vote for him. The alternative (economically) is far, far worse.

Did all you people of color get the memo from mr. white dude here? Y’all should feel privileged to be racially profiled and discriminated against in the country with the best institutional racism in the world, second to none many people are saying.. roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Az, why wouldn’t you want to be a black man? (Is one of those issues that still exists mocking the middle name
of our former black president?) asking for POC who still don’t know just how fortunate they are. thanks :thumb:

Figured you’d be the one to twist words. And because of that, you can kindly go fuck yourself.

But while you have your head up your ass, why don’t you look for another country where a black man would get a better chance to succeed and prosper than America. I’ll wait.
 
Dutch Lane said:
AZGrizFan said:
PR. Great comments, and I agree with you almost 100%. And, What a great way to look at it. I wouldn’t want to be a black man either (for all of the issues that still exist), but if I had to be a black man, there’s no better country on EARTH to be black than America. None. Zip. Nada. America is far from perfect, but it’s certainly the best place to be able to thrive and succeed as a POC.

Also, I get not liking Trump. I can’t stand the man, personally, but when you consider your very next sentence, it seems odd that you won’t vote for him. The alternative (economically) is far, far worse.

Did all you people of color get the memo from mr. white dude here? Y’all should feel privileged to be racially profiled and discriminated against in the country with the best institutional racism in the world, second to none many people are saying.. roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Az, why wouldn’t you want to be a black man? (Is one of those issues that still exists mocking the middle name
of our former black president?) asking for POC who still don’t know just how fortunate they are. thanks :thumb:

Please stop with your racist comments.
 
PlayerRep said:
CatGrad-UMGradStu said:
PR, please, if you would be so kind, address your thoughts (and opinions are fine as you do have a great deal of credibility) this column and Epstein's column in the links at the bottom.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/15/we-all-live-bubbles-its-time-burst-them/?hpid=hp_opinions-for-wide-side_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

For what it's worth, imagine Mike Mansfield who taught at the U of M, returning in this political climate sitting with Jim Messina, someone raised in Boise, educated at the U of M and serving as Obama's campaign manager sitting at a dinner in the Montana Club in Helena. (How many trillion dollars are left overseas and offshore that will come back here come hell or high water?).

The country and dems/repubs are so divided that it is hard to even have an honest discussion. I've come to believe that the dems are worse in this regard, at this time. The liberals on campuses are overly PC and cause less discourse. Truly astonishing to me.

The mainstream media, while still writing many good articles, has become far too biased. I still get most of my info from NY Times, Wall St. Journal and WaPost, with diverse articles from Apple news. The media is unduly anti-Trump, in my view.

Knowing about Mansfield and knowing Messina a bit, I think they could have good discussions and discourse. Mansfield and my dad were friends when Mansfield was a history prof at UM.

While the US is the most diverse and least racist major country in world, and has made huge improvements over the decades, there is still some underlying racism. I wouldn't want to be black in America, or in any other major country. In my experience, Native Americans have been treated much worse than blacks in states like MT. My black Malmstrom air force/rugby buddies used to tell me that too.

I don't have the answers for the remaining problems in America regarding race. I believe in diversity and having diversity impact college and hiring decisions, as a factor, not the factor. I also understand the irony of allowing favoritism for diversity purposes, as someone white doesn't get that job or slot.

I wonder if US and liberal polices have inadvertently put/locked many blacks in housing projects and created ghetto-like conditions. Those are hard to get out of and perpetuate and create problems, big ones. While reservations have created low economic and jobless havens, I support the reservations because they maintain the Indian culture. The culture stays with the land and the people on it. Many reservations and hurting and messes, tho.

Black reparations are would ridiculous. Black Lives Matter has gone too far and has been taken over by people on the left wanting many other things. The initial idea of BLM had some positives and good ideas. Defund the police? Are you kidding me? I've never loved the police, but, of course, we need the police. I support the police. I went to a police support rally at the Polson courthouse a few weeks ago. From what I've read, including from some black writers, the data and stats don't support the mantra that the police are unduly prejudiced against or hard on black people.

The US needs to be able to discuss all matters. Progress could be made. Many problems in the US are solvable.

The US needs a strong economy. That lifts everyone and also gives the government more resources to provide assistance to those in need. The Trump economy was doing many of those things before covid. I won't vote for Trump because I dislike the guy and his actions so much, but I would like his economy and job market. I fear that Biden will never get the US back to a strong economy. The growth under Obama was one of the slowest ever, down with modern Japan. The US debt will be staggering. Raising taxes is going to hurt the economy.

We need much better early education. That is a key. The research and data show that kids who haven't caught up by 3d grade will probably never catch up.

Blacks and Native Americans need to take better charge of their growth and lives, like India Indians, Asians and even may Latinos. Providing opportunity to people is necessary and great, but giving too much to people is not, in my view.

And Box, your tag line is wrong. Thinking the system worked for oneself, is not the definition of privilege. The system has worked for many, including myself and many of my black friends, and virtually none of us had any privilege. We worked hard, did well in school, and often played sports. Some of us had good families who believed in education. The US system gave us the opportunity to succeed.

Agreed across the board, PR. I think one of the mot tiresome, damaging things you mention is the near complete inability for people on opposite ends of the spectrum to have a conversation, disagree, and still respect one another. The bias in media is - in my memory at least - also at an all-time high, and this is exacerbated tremendously by social media, where the extremists on both sides of the aisle are always the ones that speak the most and the loudest.

Much of this was the subject of an interesting little study done a while back that found that - largely because of the media/ social media influence - people affiliated with both parties don't understand the actual average opinions of the other side nearly as well as they think. And to your point about the media specifically, it found that media consumption exacerbated the problem.
https://perceptiongap.us/

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