oldngrizzly
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That's ok with these assholes as long as it's not me saying it. Seems like the people who schedule the games think it's ok to.
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That's ok with these assholes as long as it's not me saying it. Seems like the people who schedule the games think it's ok to.
The point was made to you numerous times that D2 is above NAIA, they are not even close to the same. NAIA in Montana is also not even close to the cream of the crop of NAIA football. We are scheduling high level D2 teams because they are a tune up game to fill the schedule, yes, but they will be a FAR better game to get the team ready for the season than any NAIA team would be.
You don't schedule games against an NAIA team from Montana just to get a young QB reps. You also schedule games out much further in advance, and won't know that you will have a young QB needing the reps when you are scheduling games out years in advance. I believe all of these games were scheduled before KAY was even enrolled here.
You are also suggesting that you should schedule a game that would hurt the rest of the team's preparation for the season by playing a team that isn't competitive enough to be a valuable matchup.
If you put the Northern Lights on the field with Ferris State, it would be laughable and the kids from Havre would really suffer, especially on the lines. Have you watched NAIA teams from Montana play?
Nobody dislikes an idea just because it is you saying it. You are just so ignorant and stubborn that you cannot seem to listen to the reasons your special idea is so incredibly stupid. You don't even know the difference between D2 and NAIA.
HikeGlacier
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Ya right. Carroll has only won 6 NAIA national championships and has never lost to Central Washington. Hunter Peck would have started for the Griz this year.
mthoopsfan
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Your posts show little knowledge.
Its amazing that in an attempt to nitpick, that is where you went to. That was 20 years ago, when Carroll College was a unique outlier in the NAIA and was getting on the cover of Sports Illustrated and featured on ESPN. Yes, those specific Carrol teams were special, and they are nothing like Carrol College football today.
There are 50 D2 guys in the NFL. How many guys graduated NAIA and are in the NFL? That should speak to talent level of the divisions overall, right?
What other good FCS teams are scheduling NAIA teams to play? When was the last time that MSU, NDSU, SDSU, or any major FCS team played an NAIA team? The last time Weber scheduled Western, they beat Western 76-0 and that was the Western team that had the Ferris kid that actually made an NFL camp for a while. It isn't even CLOSE to competitive between the Griz and Montana NAIA teams. We would gain nothing, hurt the preparation of the team for the season, and lose money all just so that we could get a freshman live reps against lower competition than they see in practice.
It is senseless, and ignorant. Period. That's why we don't do it.
And, regardless, this all started with that other poster claiming that he never said something that he clearly has argued for, and now is doubling down on while still pretending he never said it. Wild.
Runnin' Cat
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Central Washington University Athletics Football History vs Carroll (MT)
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oldngrizzly
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Looks like you did a little correction on your original post Elrod. As I recall reading earlier you asked why Hike posted some facts you disagree with because well the question was not directed to him and saying that was none of his business and he should not interject. Yet it was fine for you do to so because well you are just a two faced jackass.
oldngrizzly
Well-known member
My posts are rarely challenged by people who know football while yours are challenged about every other one. So clearly it must be a reflection of your little knowledge.
Uhm, what? No, I've never disagreed with facts because facts aren't something that can be "disagreed with," and I did not tell anyone that something is none of their business and they shouldn't interject? Weird claims, man.
Yes, it is fine for anyone to make a comment on a message board. Glad we got that cleared up. As for the rest, I doubt I've ever been called "two faced" in my life, but you keep raging at your computer screen because you are intellectually incapable of having a logical debate with people.
oldngrizzly
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It's correct I never said this "The Griz should schedule an NAIA team every year?" You need to get your facts straight. Wild.
mthoopsfan
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This post of your on Sept. 16 indicates that you had been saying the Griz should schedule NAIA games.'
"As far as NAIA teams it was a suggestion of how the Griz could get playing time to develop a quarterback with a record that would not count."
Your June 7 post:
"If we can take in a million per why don't we play lower level Montana teams ? We could even make more." [The only lower level MT teams are NAIA, right?]
Another June 7 post:
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[Old:] Maybe it would be a good game to train younger quarterbacks since they seem to not have much play time."
June 7 post:
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[1122:] I don't think playing against NAIA secondaries will do anything to help prepare our guys to win an FCS national championship."
Your June 8 post:
"So you do not think that anyone would come watch say Carrol or Montana Tech play the Griz ? I am not talking Ferris State.My take is we are not getting the reps for people like Ah YAT or others in live play enought to make them game ready.How else could you do it?"
Another June 8 post:
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[Old:] because there is no crowd - there is no action- no excitement - just another day of practice
oldngrizzly
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I never said this "The Griz should schedule an NAIA team every year?" You need to get your facts straight.
Wait wait wait, are you saying all of this because you believe you never put into print the words "every year" into the link I shared? Are you so pedantically hanging on to that on caveat of "every year" to pretend you never said we should be scheduling NAIA teams? Because I linked to one of the threads where you advocated for it, and you did so over a period of months on this site. I'm sorry if your past opinions now embarrass you.
mthoopsfan
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You need to remember and admit what you have said.
oldngrizzly
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Not embarrassed at all. I still think we should play NAIA teams. Look at the state of our teams this past year. It was an embarrassment for the program, fans and the university. A solution would be to play lesser teams for experience to be more prepared for the regular season. It appears that will be the case in next year's schedule. BUT I NEVER SAID! "every year" admit you are wrong and that you just looking to challenge someone you do not like.
oldngrizzly
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I NEVER SAID! "every year" admit you are wrong and that you just looking to challenge someone you do not like.
No, it was actually your inability to have a rational conversation around your own suggestion of playing NAIA teams that annoyed me, not the other way around. You threw out an incredibly stupid idea, and then just got mad and whined when people tried to actually discuss it with you.
Listen, yes, you should play lesser teams, but they should be lower level FCS and D2 teams. Which is what our schedule is for next year. That is very different than Montana NAIA teams. There is a huge difference between Central Washington and the Northern Lights. That was the point that many of us tried to discuss with you, and you doubled down.
By playing a Montana NAIA team, we would lose attendance, NAIA kids would get hurt needlessly, and the team wouldn't develop like you claim to be true. They would develop more bad habits than good, and things would work against NAIA teams that would never work against good FCS teams, simply because of the difference in size and speed. That is why teams are not developing their QBs that way. You don't see MSU, NDSU, or SDSU scheduling games against Rocky or Montana Western to develop young players.
Your obsessive focus on the part about you never said "every year" is a very poor attempt to deflect the discussion.
You are being overly pedantic. Then how would we choose what years? You have to schedule out games in advance. If a game against an NAIA team is such a good idea, why not do it every year? You are trying so desperately hard to say "you're wrong" that you have completely lost sight of the forest while you stare at one tiny little sapling. I don't know if you said "every year," I haven't looked through every post. Perhaps I was wrong on that. Your overall point is still a senseless one, though, even if you only think we should do it 75% of the time or some other metric you have invented to avoid discussing your actual idea.
garizzalies
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Where has this ever happened? Can you give any examples?
The saying goes that you get better by playing up, not down, and certainly not way down. Challenging yourself against stiffer competition. Like running with the resistance band. When you take it off, you feel faster.
Under your theory, the Lakers suck, maybe they should play East middle school. Utter nonsense.
Ferris State gonna win their 3rd National Championship in 4 years.
Currently lead Valdosta St 49-14 with 6 minutes left in the game.
Currently lead Valdosta St 49-14 with 6 minutes left in the game.
