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FCS Poll Guesses (Sept 22)

IdaGriz01

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With most teams now through a third of their regular season, the pollsters should be able to make some reasonable picks. If they choose to do so, of course … which is problematic. Still, as I mentioned on another thread, this list will heavily influence the rankings from here on out.

Just a reminder: As a general rule, a win does not mean a team will move up … unless a loss ahead of them opens a gap. Only if you do something spectacular will the pollsters jump you over a winner ahead of you. A major FBS upset might do it, although even that is not certain.
On the flip side, a loss will almost always result in a drop in the rankings. How far depends upon several factors: who they lost to. how badly, and perhaps home or away.

Rank Guess, Team (Record), [Current Rank]
1. South Dakota State (3-1) [1]
2. North Dakota State (3-1) [2]
3. Montana State (4-0) [3]
4. Idaho (3-1) [4]
5. South Dakota (2-1) [6]
6. Villanova (3-1) [5]
7. Central Arkansas (3-1) [8]
8. Montana (3-1) [9]
9. North Dakota (3-1) [10]
10. Southern Illinois (2-2) [7]
11. Sacramento State (2-2) [11]
12. William & Mary (3-1) [12]
13. UC Davis (3-1) [13]
14. Mercer (4-0) [14]
15. Incarnate Word (2-2) [15]
16 Tarleton State (3-1) [16]
17. Illinois State (3-1) [17]
18. SE Missouri (3-1) [21]
19. Lamar (3-1) [22]
20. Albany (1-2) [20]
21. Rhode Island (3-1) [NR]
22. Richmond (2-2) [NR]
23. Abilene Christian (2-2) [19]
24. Chattanooga (0-3) [23]
25. Northern Iowa (2-2) [25]

NR Lafayette (2-2) [18]
NR Western Carolina (1-3) [24]

There were enough losses among ranked teams to make it interesting, starting with Villanova. The Wildcats only made the score seem not so bad when Maryland let up on the gas in the second half. But Maryland, although not ranked, is a pretty good team (3-1), so I do not think the pollsters will punish Villanova too much. (There’s another reason, which I’ll get to later.)

The next change to consider is Southern Illinois losing at home to #21 SE Missouri. Because they lost to a ranked team, I only dropped them three spots. However, they lost decisively at home, so I can see the pollsters dinging them another spot or two.

Note that the SIU loss opens a spot for the Griz to move up. As noted above. I don’t think Villanova will drop enough to open another spot.

Now we cruise for awhile until we get to the loss by #18 Lafayette. They lost decisively to an unranked team (Columbia) … their one win was over pitiful Marist (0-3). I’m hoping, and projecting that the pollsters will correct their past error and drop Lafayette completely out of the Top-25. (But won’t be shocked if that doesn’t happen.)

Right below Lafayette is #19 Abilene Christian, which lost at home to #4 Idaho, Since they lost to a ranked team, they might not drop as far as my guess. However, their “signature” moment was hanging close with FBS Texas Tech in the first game of the season. They have no good wins … they barely beat Northern Colorado (2 points).

Finally, we get to Western Carolina. Yes, they played the Griz plenty tough, but when you’re #24, almost any loss will drop you out of the Top-25. Besides that, they are now (1-3), with their only win against a weak (1-3) team.

Before we fill the spots opened by the Lafayette and Western Carolina losses, let’s address the Northern Iowa loss at Hawaii. Although the Panther’s have no “signature” wins, their two losses were to FBS opponents, including ranked Nebraska. I’m guessing that the UNI magic will kick in and they’ll hang onto that #25 spot.

So, what two teams move up? As it happens, two of the top “Others” receiving votes lost and a third did not play. That takes us right down to Richmond and Rhode Island. Factor in a strong CAA endorsement in a Craig Haley column, and I’m betting the pollsters will slot both into the Top-25.

Be interesting to see how this all compares when the next real poll comes out. (I assume tomorrow morning.)
 
please no UNI at #25
How is Chatty ranked with 0 wins? That I do not get...
Because they got 133 votes in the Sept 16 STATS poll ...50 points above the cutoff for the Top-25. Totally crazy. Maybe the pollsters will fix that. However, since Chatty did not play this weekend, I'm not counting on it.
 
2 points about the poll:

North Dakota should be ranked above Montana, given the head to head win.

Montana State COULD be ranked #2, behind SDSU.
 
We blew away our weak opponent last week 52-2, and somehow dropped a spot. The cats didn’t beat a lower ranked team (One of the worst in all of FCS) as badly as we did ours, but will probably stay put or move up? Make it make sense. Their SOS is one of the worst in all of FCS as well.
 
We blew away our weak opponent last week 52-2, and somehow dropped a spot. The cats didn’t beat a lower ranked team (One of the worst in all of FCS) as badly as we did ours, but will probably stay put or move up? Make it make sense. Their SOS is one of the worst in all of FCS as well.
We will never climb above the kitties this year until we beat them in Bozeman.
 
We will never climb above the kitties this year until we beat them in Bozeman.
I’m not saying that. I’m saying the pollsters suck at this. What I laid out means the cats should then drop a spot as well, regardless of them beating up on the sitters of the poor. Same with the bison….they literally were gifted a win against an unranked team last week but stayed put. Why are the Griz the only team who were dropped after an insanely dominating win against a team higher-ranked than some of these others who don’t have a big of a win or point spread. Make it make sense.
 
I would put the kittens to #9 and move North Dakota to #2.I would switch NDS and Idaho.Switch the Griz and South Dakota.
 
msu hasn’t played anyone of significance. UNM is 0-4, then formerly Dixie State(Utah Tech), followed by Maine and mercy hurst and they are somehow annoited. They won’t play a competitive football game until October 12 against Idaho. Get used to it. All we can concern ourselves with is Montana. We just need to win. Period! Our stretch of ewu, weber, and nau is critical. Win those and we’ll be in good shape.
First concern ewu…
 
Agree. Idaho objectively looks like a better team. Especially defensively - they have some dudes.
Really, really hard to beat the Cats in Bobcat stadium. 8:15 kickoff. Will be a super rowdy crowd, crazy environment. Will likely be the #3 vs #4 teams in the country. We'll see how she goes.
 
Really, really hard to beat the Cats in Bobcat stadium. 8:15 kickoff. Will be a super rowdy crowd, crazy environment. Will likely be the #3 vs #4 teams in the country. We'll see how she goes.
No doubt a tough place to play. It will be a great game. The Cats OL hasn't look nearly as good as last year, and the defensive front is Idaho's strength. If the game is won in the trenches, I believe Idaho has an advantage, but that is just one schmuck's opinion. 8:15 pm kickoff is LATE! If the O/U for the time I will fall asleep during the game was 10:00 pm, I would crush the under.
 
This makes no sense. Idaho nearly looses to a team that barely beat UNCO, NDSU looked vulnerable the last 2 weeks, SDSU only beat a d2 team by 3 touchdowns with qb throwing 2 picks, Nova barely survived 2 FCS teams that will be happy to make playoffs. All this and you think the cats should drop for being 4-0 with an FBS victory. The cats defense has allowed less points than the offense and the offense is looking incredible… you folks clearly dont watch games
 
No doubt a tough place to play. It will be a great game. The Cats OL hasn't look nearly as good as last year, and the defensive front is Idaho's strength. If the game is won in the trenches, I believe Idaho has an advantage, but that is just one schmuck's opinion. 8:15 pm kickoff is LATE! If the O/U for the time I will fall asleep during the game was 10:00 pm, I would crush the under.
The cats offensive line is missing their best player and they’ve been playing guys out of their usual positions to get the best guys on the field. Their offense looks legit, and Tommy has made more use of his arm, but when the chips were down against New Mexico and even in the Utah Tech game they reverted back to pounding the ball on the ground. Can they pass when necessary against a good defense or if their back is against the wall?

Their defense hasn’t been able to force pressure in the passing game and though they were lights out against Utah tech into the 4th quarter they haven’t been challenged much yet to know what they have. After watching the Maine game, there is a clear drop off in talent down their depth chart.

Idahos defense has been winning them games, and it’s been impressive despite being down to a young backup QB. They nearly squirreled the game away yesterday to ACU. I believe the defensive line of Idaho has the horses to make that an interesting matchup. I agree it is a really hard place to go in and get a win now. I believe Eck and his players have the right attitude to do it. The cats will want retribution for last year so could see them pouncing early.
 
The cats offensive line is missing their best player and they’ve been playing guys out of their usual positions to get the best guys on the field. Their offense looks legit, and Tommy has made more use of his arm, but when the chips were down against New Mexico and even in the Utah Tech game they reverted back to pounding the ball on the ground. Can they pass when necessary against a good defense or if their back is against the wall?

Their defense hasn’t been able to force pressure in the passing game and though they were lights out against Utah tech into the 4th quarter they haven’t been challenged much yet to know what they have. After watching the Maine game, there is a clear drop off in talent down their depth chart.

Idahos defense has been winning them games, and it’s been impressive despite being down to a young backup QB. They nearly squirreled the game away yesterday to ACU. I believe the defensive line of Idaho has the horses to make that an interesting matchup. I agree it is a really hard place to go in and get a win now. I believe Eck and his players have the right attitude to do it. The cats will want retribution for last year so could see them pouncing early.
We aren’t missing our best player. Perk is phenomenal but Moore and Wehr are better o linemen. Defense actually has been getting tons of pressure. The reason you don’t see a ton of sacks is because most of the teams have been running quick passes to avoid our defensive pressure. Mercy actually has a big OL and we got tons of pressure, even with the 2s and 3s. Watch Brody Grebe’s interview after Maine as he references the lack of sacks. The 2s and 3s played poorly against Maine but it was a great learning opportunity and they will only get better. The DL is by far the best part of the defense and we have extreme depth at that position. Cats are very legit this year but need to play some better competition before you can really bump them in the rankings.
 
We aren’t missing our best player. Perk is phenomenal but Moore and Wehr are better o linemen. Defense actually has been getting tons of pressure. The reason you don’t see a ton of sacks is because most of the teams have been running quick passes to avoid our defensive pressure. Mercy actually has a big OL and we got tons of pressure, even with the 2s and 3s. Watch Brody Grebe’s interview after Maine as he references the lack of sacks. The 2s and 3s played poorly against Maine but it was a great learning opportunity and they will only get better. The DL is by far the best part of the defense and we have extreme depth at that position. Cats are very legit this year but need to play some better competition before you can really bump them in the rankings.
What a wishcasting fool.
It’s like clockwork every year with the cat fans.
 
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