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FCS Draft Stats

2018 Free Agent Signings, Camp Invites, etc. Some have multiple invites. Per STATS.com on May 1. Conference count in [brackets]

Big Sky [20]: Kyle Lewis, Cal Poly | Caleb Melton, Cal Poly | Albert Havili, EWU | Mario Jenkins, ISU | JonRhyeem Wolfley-Peoples, ISU | Skyler Phillips, ISU | Justin Strong, Montana | Ryan McKinley, Montana | Mac Bignell, MSU | Elijah Marks, NAU | Frank Stephens, NoColo | Randin Crecelius, PSU | Donovan Olumba, PSU | Chris Seisay, PSU | Davond Dade, PSU | Ben Sorensen, Sac State | Mike Needham, SUU | Robert Torgerson, SUU | Andrew Vollert, WSU | McKay Murphy, WSU

Big South [2]: Alex Thompson, Monmouth | Mike Basile, Monmouth

CAA [22]: Anthony Manzo-Lewis, Albany | Ikenna Nwokeji, Elon | Jordan Brown, JMU | Bryan Schor, JMU | Raven Greene, JMU | Aaron Stinnie, JMU | Jordan Brown, JMU | Andrew Ankrah, JMU | Jason Matovu, Maine | Garrett Hudson, Richmond | Tafon Mainsah, Richmond | Alex Light, Richmond | Chris Cooper, Stony Brook | Tyrice Beveret, Stony Brook | Ray Bolden, Stony Brook | Timon Parris, Stony Brook | Stacey Bedell, Stony Brook | Ed Shockley, Villanova | Trey Johnson, Villanova | Chris Durant, W&M | Connor Hilland, W&M | Chris Durant, W&M

Ivy [5]: Richard "Dewey" Jarvis, Brown | Lord Hyeamang, Columbia | Chad Kanoff, Princeton | Matt Oplinger, Yale | Jaeden Graham, Yale

MEAC [6]: Jawill Davis, Bethune-Cookman | Owen Obasuyi, Hampton | Chris Lee, Norfolk State | Khris Gardin, North Carolina A&T | Jeremy Taylor, North Carolina A&T | Justin Evans, SC State

MVFC [26]: Christian Gibbs, Illinois State | Dalton Keene, Illinois State | Jacquet McClendon, Indiana State | Malik Earl, Missouri State | Chris Board, NDSU | James Fisher, NDSU | Austin Kuhnert, NDSU | Connor Wentz, NDSU | Nick DeLuca, NDSU | Nate Tanguay, NDSU | Malcolm Washington, Northern Iowa | Elijah Campbell, Northern Iowa | Kellen Soulek, SDSU | Jacob Ohnesorge, SDSU | Jake Wieneke, SDSU | Austin Olsen, SIU | Devondre Seymour, SIU | Craig James, SIU | Ryan Neal, SIU | Jaelon Acklin, W Illinois | Jacob Judd, W Illinois | Brett Taylor,W Illinois | David Griffith,W Illinois | Damoun Patterson, YSU | Kevin Radar, YSU | Justin Spencer, YSU

NEC [3]: Matt Sewall, Bryant | Randall LaGuerre, C Connecticut State | Andy Smigiera, Robert Morris

OVC [27]: Malik Boynton, Austin Peay | Tim Boyle, E Kentucky | Luder Jean Louis, E Kentucky | Keith Wrzuszczak, E Kentucky | Ryan Markush, E Kentucky | Mack Weaver, E Illinois | A.J. Hantak, E Illinois | Bradley Dewberry, E Illinois | Dylan Cline, JSU | Roc Thomas, JSU | Justin Lea, JSU | Reggie Hall, JSU | Darius Jackson, JSU | Jonathan Hagler, JSU | D'Montre Wade, Murray State | Jordon Gandy, Murray State | Mike Ford, SEMO | Jesse Hoskett, SEMO | Rico McWilliams, SEMO | Chad Meredith, SEMO | Terrell Bonds, Tenn State | Patrick Smith, Tenn State | Terrell Bonds, Tenn State | Patrick Smith, Tenn State | Jatitus "Ty" Allen, Tenn State | Dontez Byrd, Tennessee Tech | Brett Thompson, UT Martin

Patriot [7]: Abdullah Anderson, Bucknell | Anthony Coyle, Fordham | Jimmy Murray, Holy Cross | Peter Pujals, Holy Cross | Nick McBeath, Holy Cross | Zach Duffy, Lehigh | Troy Pelletier, Lehigh

Pioneer [1]: Ross Dwelley, San Diego

SoCon [11]: Dale Warren, Chattanooga | Josh Cardiello, Chattanooga | Tae Davis, Chattanooga | Lucas Webb, Chattanooga | Dee Delaney, Citadel | Myles Pierce, Citadel | Omari Williams, Samford | Austin Barnard, Samford | Shaheed Salmon, Samford | Detrez Newsome, W Carolina | David Marvin, Wofford

Southland [11]: Carl Whitley, Abilene Christian | Bryson Gates, Abilene Christian | George Odum, C Arkansas | Chris Chambers, C Arkansas | Chris Hardeman, Houston Baptist | Joe Zema, Incarnate Word | Kent Shelby, McNeese | Tevin Lawson, Nicholls | Jeremiah Briscoe, SHSU | Sione Teuhema, SELA | Max Lyons, SELA

SWAC [8]: Tere' Calloway, Alabama A&M | Jaypee Philbert, Alabama State | De'Lance Turner, Alcorn State | Montrel Meander, Grambling | Martez Carter, Grambling | Trent Scott, Grambling | Danny Johnson, Southern | Darvin Kidsy, Texas Southern

At least in terms of "invite" etc. the Big Sky holding its own. The number that jumps out for me is the seven for the Patriot. The Patriot the conference ended up with just one team (out of seven) that had a winning record ... Colgate (7-4). Weird.
 
Big Sky could have been looking at 3 total, had Cole Reyes and Deion Harris not got hurt. Reyes has gotten hurt every year since high school, and he also got hurt at the Shrine Game... made out of paper mache.

Deion Harris was Mel Keipers fifth best CB last year before getting hurt before the season.
 
Free agent invites don't mean jack (to me). If you make an NFL team's roster I'll be impressed, but all 20 Big Sky non-draftee invitees are long-shots, at best.

I found the Kiper quote to verify the top 5 CB claim about Deion Harris (which surprised me), and he'll get his chance to prove his worth next year,right? He should get drafted next year if he bounces back to form, but you are right about Reyes. He seems to get hurt every year, so why would anyone waste a draft pick on him?
 
Zirg said:
Free agent invites don't mean jack (to me). If you make an NFL team's roster I'll be impressed, but all 20 Big Sky non-draftee invitees are long-shots, at best.

I found the Kiper quote to verify the top 5 CB claim about Deion Harris (which surprised me), and he'll get his chance to prove his worth next year,right? He should get drafted next year if he bounces back to form, but you are right about Reyes. He seems to get hurt every year, so why would anyone waste a draft pick on him?

How would you rate Brock Coyle or Colt Anderson?
 
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
So essentially he said what every coach has told every returner ever: your job is to catch the damn football. Anything else is gravy.

While catching the ball (i.e. not fumbling) is essential, many coaches including Hauck view the return as a significant offensive weapon and way to turn around field advantage. I have no doubt that UM special teams will be better and more consistent this season.

Well, I would imagine any coach would love a 30 yard return. And Stitt doesn’t say anything different in the quote. He just says that a 30 yard return isn’t the job of the returner. His job is to catch the damn football. Anything else is gravy.


Hey, where have I read that before?
He didn't say that. Stitt literally said "We are not looking for a return."
 
PlayerRep said:
Zirg said:
Free agent invites don't mean jack (to me). If you make an NFL team's roster I'll be impressed, but all 20 Big Sky non-draftee invitees are long-shots, at best.

I found the Kiper quote to verify the top 5 CB claim about Deion Harris (which surprised me), and he'll get his chance to prove his worth next year,right? He should get drafted next year if he bounces back to form, but you are right about Reyes. He seems to get hurt every year, so why would anyone waste a draft pick on him?

How would you rate Brock Coyle or Colt Anderson?

They made NFL rosters, therefore I am impressed.
 
Zirg said:
PlayerRep said:
Zirg said:
Free agent invites don't mean jack (to me). If you make an NFL team's roster I'll be impressed, but all 20 Big Sky non-draftee invitees are long-shots, at best.

I found the Kiper quote to verify the top 5 CB claim about Deion Harris (which surprised me), and he'll get his chance to prove his worth next year,right? He should get drafted next year if he bounces back to form, but you are right about Reyes. He seems to get hurt every year, so why would anyone waste a draft pick on him?

How would you rate Brock Coyle or Colt Anderson?

They made NFL rosters, therefore I am impressed.

But you were not impressed when they were only free agents?

They "made" NFL rosters? Coyle is the starting middle linebacker of the 49ers. He had a million dollar signing bonus last year, or something like that. Anderson has played for about 9 years in NFL.

What a loser you are. Did you ever accomplish anything in your life? If so, tell us.
 
PlayerRep said:
Zirg said:
PlayerRep said:
Zirg said:
Free agent invites don't mean jack (to me). If you make an NFL team's roster I'll be impressed, but all 20 Big Sky non-draftee invitees are long-shots, at best.

I found the Kiper quote to verify the top 5 CB claim about Deion Harris (which surprised me), and he'll get his chance to prove his worth next year,right? He should get drafted next year if he bounces back to form, but you are right about Reyes. He seems to get hurt every year, so why would anyone waste a draft pick on him?

How would you rate Brock Coyle or Colt Anderson?

They made NFL rosters, therefore I am impressed.

But you were not impressed when they were only free agents?

They "made" NFL rosters? Coyle is the starting middle linebacker of the 49ers. He had a million dollar signing bonus last year, or something like that. Anderson has played for about 9 years in NFL.

What a loser you are. Did you ever accomplish anything in your life? If so, tell us.

I'm not impressed with whatever # the Big Sky's free-agent number is, whether it is 20 or 30 or 40. Correct. The guys that actually make it will impress me, and come September if 8 of those 20 make a team, THEN I will be impressed. If that number is 1-2 then not so much. That's just my personal opinion about non-draftee invites. We were having a civilized discussion, why must you feel the need to call me names because I have a different opinon?
 
Zirg said:
PlayerRep said:
Zirg said:
PlayerRep said:
How would you rate Brock Coyle or Colt Anderson?

They made NFL rosters, therefore I am impressed.

But you were not impressed when they were only free agents?

They "made" NFL rosters? Coyle is the starting middle linebacker of the 49ers. He had a million dollar signing bonus last year, or something like that. Anderson has played for about 9 years in NFL.

What a loser you are. Did you ever accomplish anything in your life? If so, tell us.

I'm not impressed with whatever # the Big Sky's free-agent number is, whether it is 20 or 30 or 40. Correct. The guys that actually make it will impress me, and come September if 8 of those 20 make a team, THEN I will be impressed. If that number is 1-2 then not so much. That's just my personal opinion about non-draftee invites. We were having a civilized discussion, why must you feel the need to call me names because I have a different opinon?
There is ZERO difference in getting drafted in the 6th or 7th round and signing as a free agent. You saying Brock Coyle simply "made" an NFL roster shows how big of a dork you are. He has started multiple games for the Seahawks and 49ers. Colt is nearing 10 years in the NFL. Your opinion is very very stupid
 
Zirg said:
PlayerRep said:
Zirg said:
PlayerRep said:
How would you rate Brock Coyle or Colt Anderson?

They made NFL rosters, therefore I am impressed.

But you were not impressed when they were only free agents?

They "made" NFL rosters? Coyle is the starting middle linebacker of the 49ers. He had a million dollar signing bonus last year, or something like that. Anderson has played for about 9 years in NFL.

What a loser you are. Did you ever accomplish anything in your life? If so, tell us.

I'm not impressed with whatever # the Big Sky's free-agent number is, whether it is 20 or 30 or 40. Correct. The guys that actually make it will impress me, and come September if 8 of those 20 make a team, THEN I will be impressed. If that number is 1-2 then not so much. That's just my personal opinion about non-draftee invites. We were having a civilized discussion, why must you feel the need to call me names because I have a different opinon?

It's my way of showing I'm not "impressed" with your opinion, and that I'm not "impressed" with your attitude toward college and Big Sky players who are good enough and work hard enough to get signed by the NFL. To me, that's a very nice accomplishment. Your not being impressed says something (negative) about you, in my opinion.
 
WaGriz4life said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
So essentially he said what every coach has told every returner ever: your job is to catch the damn football. Anything else is gravy.

While catching the ball (i.e. not fumbling) is essential, many coaches including Hauck view the return as a significant offensive weapon and way to turn around field advantage. I have no doubt that UM special teams will be better and more consistent this season.

Well, I would imagine any coach would love a 30 yard return. And Stitt doesn’t say anything different in the quote. He just says that a 30 yard return isn’t the job of the returner. His job is to catch the damn football. Anything else is gravy.


Hey, where have I read that before?
He didn't say that. Stitt literally said "We are not looking for a return."

Right. What he said was that what they are looking for is to get the ball to the offense. So again, "Returner, your job is to catch the damn football. If you can run for a TD, awesome sauce. But your job is to get us the football".

Glad we agree on something.
 
How do simple threads turn into pissing matches? :?

We know that only a fraction of guys who go off to NFL camps will actually ever play a regular NFL game. Even some fraction* of the guys who are drafted don't make it, including some whose careers end with the exhibition season. The numbers are much worse for undrafted free agents and the "invites." So from that standpoint, getting into a camp is not very "impressive."

But lets put it in proper context. Together, FCS programs send well over two thousand football players, graduating seniors, out into the world each year. Add up the drafted and "invite" lists and you get about 168 names. By my calculation, that means only about one in twelve of all those seniors even gets a chance with an NFL team. I'd call that a pretty select group.

* I'm sure someone has that number, but it's not worth the time to dig it up. My recollection is that less than half the guys drafted ever play an NFL game. (But I may be remembering a very good or very bad year.)
 
In terms of the health/skill of the conference, I think FA signings are more important. ANY conference can have 3 draft picks. We all know that football is all about depth. FA signings show the depth of each league, and there are simply too few draft picks to have a large enough sample size. A team can have one or two draft picks and still suck. For instance, NDSU had zero draft picks this year, but they had like 5 FA signings.
 
Zirg said:
Free agent invites don't mean jack (to me). If you make an NFL team's roster I'll be impressed, but all 20 Big Sky non-draftee invitees are long-shots, at best.

I found the Kiper quote to verify the top 5 CB claim about Deion Harris (which surprised me), and he'll get his chance to prove his worth next year,right? He should get drafted next year if he bounces back to form, but you are right about Reyes. He seems to get hurt every year, so why would anyone waste a draft pick on him?

Yeah he is on track to play, but he sat out spring ball. He is running and jumping a bit, but still recovering. No word yet on if he will ever return to 100%.
 
EverettGriz said:
WaGriz4life said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
While catching the ball (i.e. not fumbling) is essential, many coaches including Hauck view the return as a significant offensive weapon and way to turn around field advantage. I have no doubt that UM special teams will be better and more consistent this season.

Well, I would imagine any coach would love a 30 yard return. And Stitt doesn’t say anything different in the quote. He just says that a 30 yard return isn’t the job of the returner. His job is to catch the damn football. Anything else is gravy.


Hey, where have I read that before?
He didn't say that. Stitt literally said "We are not looking for a return."

Right. What he said was that what they are looking for is to get the ball to the offense. So again, "Returner, your job is to catch the damn football. If you can run for a TD, awesome sauce. But your job is to get us the football".

Glad we agree on something.

If the only goal is to get the ball to the offense, then it wouldn't even be necessary to put a returner on the field. Just let the ball bounce. Never a muff or fumble
 
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
WaGriz4life said:
EverettGriz said:
Well, I would imagine any coach would love a 30 yard return. And Stitt doesn’t say anything different in the quote. He just says that a 30 yard return isn’t the job of the returner. His job is to catch the damn football. Anything else is gravy.


Hey, where have I read that before?
He didn't say that. Stitt literally said "We are not looking for a return."

Right. What he said was that what they are looking for is to get the ball to the offense. So again, "Returner, your job is to catch the damn football. If you can run for a TD, awesome sauce. But your job is to get us the football".

Glad we agree on something.

If the only goal is to get the ball to the offense, then it wouldn't even be necessary to put a returner on the field. Just let the ball bounce. Never a muff or fumble


Preeeeeeeeciiiiiiiissseeeely!!!! Well done.

Now, for the Amana range and a shot at the 3 day, two night stay in lovely Branson, MO, please tell us why Stitt didn't do just that? If you believe he truly didn't care at all about a return, why did he put a returner on the field? You have sixty seconds to answer. A hint is below, but if you use it, the chance for the lovely Branson trip is lost.

Judges, start the clock.

60...59...58...57....








(hint: because his statement suggests that the PRIMARY role for the punt returner, as every coach in America has coached ever -- Hey! there it is again!! -- tells their returner their job is to catch the damn football. But that he would, of course, LOVE a big return).
 
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
WaGriz4life said:
He didn't say that. Stitt literally said "We are not looking for a return."
[The FULL quote: "We're not looking for a return; we're just looking to catch it and get it back to the offense."]
Right. What he said was that what they are looking for is to get the ball to the offense. So again, "Returner, your job is to catch the damn football. If you can run for a TD, awesome sauce. But your job is to get us the football". ...
If the only goal is to get the ball to the offense, then it wouldn't even be necessary to put a returner on the field. Just let the ball bounce. Never a muff or fumble
Unfortunately, the limit on quote "depth" removed a key PR point: "... many coaches including Hauck view the return as a significant offensive weapon and way to turn around field advantage."

And I agree, if you have well-coached players out there on Special Teams. Aside from the yards gained (objective impact), the psychological impact (subjective) of a big return can be huge. Just re-watched the historical comeback against SDSU. Does anybody doubt that Mariani's KO return for a TD was a monster lift for the Griz and a major downer for the Jackrabits?

So the notion of "letting it bounce" -- meant in sarcasm, I'm sure -- is not what Stitt had in mind. He clearly under-valued the return game, but he understood the importance of field position for his offense. Catching it is #1, run-back is gravy, letting it bounce is a major sin. You almost invariably give up big chunks of yardage (unless you get lucky and it goes into the EZ).

Addendum: I know about pissing matches on eGriz, but how did a thread about the NFL draft, camps, etc. morph into a referendum on Hauck vs Stitt on the return game? ;) :lol:
 
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
WaGriz4life said:
He didn't say that. Stitt literally said "We are not looking for a return."

Right. What he said was that what they are looking for is to get the ball to the offense. So again, "Returner, your job is to catch the damn football. If you can run for a TD, awesome sauce. But your job is to get us the football".

Glad we agree on something.

If the only goal is to get the ball to the offense, then it wouldn't even be necessary to put a returner on the field. Just let the ball bounce. Never a muff or fumble


Preeeeeeeeciiiiiiiissseeeely!!!! Well done.

Now, for the Amana range and a shot at the 3 day, two night stay in lovely Branson, MO, please tell us why Stitt didn't do just that? If you believe he truly didn't care at all about a return, why did he put a returner on the field? You have sixty seconds to answer. A hint is below, but if you use it, the chance for the lovely Branson trip is lost.

Judges, start the clock.

60...59...58...57....








(hint: because his statement suggests that the PRIMARY role for the punt returner, as every coach in America has coached ever -- Hey! there it is again!! -- tells their returner their job is to catch the damn football. But that he would, of course, LOVE a big return).

I don't believe I made any comments on Stitt. I made the following comment on Hauck.

"While catching the ball (i.e. not fumbling) is essential, many coaches including Hauck view the return as a significant offensive weapon and way to turn around field advantage. I have no doubt that UM special teams will be better and more consistent this season."
 

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