FCS Championship Game

[2011BisonAlumni]

Getting tired of FCS fans complaining about NDSU taking advantage of proving full cost of attendance while simultaneously watching the program they cheer for elect to not provide full cost of attendance or take the necessary measures to fundraise so their programs can provide the benefit.

The fact is NDSU is able to provide the benefit to the players because the collective alumni base through team makers, provides more money to the athletic department at NDSU than the alumni base of the University of Montana.

It sure does look like you have just proved my point. That you are justified in paying your players to play. I personally don't care where the money comes from but I do think it offers a disproportionate competitive advantage for the Semi Pro Bison. Now then the doping matter just goes to show how far the Semi Pro Bison will go to stay on top.
Pat to play especially at the FCS level it detestable. Many if not most of the players are playing a sport they love to play some on scholarship and others just because they love the sport. But to the NODakota you betcha semi pro Bison, they need to pay em to move to Fargo to play. My thoughts are if that is the case move on up to the FBS level where this kind of abuse is most likely more common.

Wrong. It is providing college athletes with a stipend to help buy extra items not covered by a scholarship (shoes, gas, laptops etc) due to the fact it is extremely difficult to have a job on top of school and athletic commitments.

It absolutely has a place in college athletics and should have been implemented years ago.

In a perfect world your logic may make sense but this is NoDakota State Semi Pro Bison world. The stipends are incentives to get better players to attend your semi pro team. They can get the same if not better education elsewhere without tolerating Fargo.
Face it Bisonville that Coa or stipend is an incentive to come to Fargo and is in essence an NCAA endorsed pay to play plan.
There are semi pro football leagues across the U.S. that don't pay their players nearly as well as you NoDakotans do. But fact are facts ans I understand why you need to pay to play because I did business as a wholesale supplier all across North Dakota. One of my best customers put it best when I asked why he struggled getting good technical help and payed them so well. He said, "Who the f##k wants to live in North Dakota."
Go JMU humble the semi pro Bison

You do fully understand that JMU also provides FCOA right ?

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

So, after all of this, I suppose we can all agree on the following indisputable facts:

1. Fargo State pays its players to play football.
2. Fargo State paid a person who distributed banned drugs to players.
3. The Fargo State fan base is the most insecure fan base in the history of sports.

Am I missing anything?

1.) There is not a college called Fargo State.

2.) You derail threads

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

I guess the bottom line is the people in charge of the Fargo team of out-of-staters admit that they dope their players. They admittedly pay people money, and those people provide banned drugs to players. These are facts. All apologies, but I refuse to celebrate such a filthy program. Disgusting cheats.

I think you need to contact the NCAA. They clearly need to investigate NDSU proving full cost of attendance (which is allowed by the NCAA) and investigate one player being suspended for too much caffeine.

You have so much inside knowledge on this. Please do the right thing and call the NCAA.

:lol: Couldn't handle it. I knew it.

Fargo State should be self reporting the banned drug distribution by someone they pay. Clearly, you've never worked an unpaid three-month internship in NCAA compliance.

That is why I think you need to contact the NCAA.

For the record, I have firsthand knowledge on the situation and know for a fact the NCAA was contacted and did look into it.

Drinking coffee or Mountain Dew is going against the banned substance list. It is up to the player to regulate what goes into his body and realize the effect. If the University of Montana ever provides their players with caffeinated soda or coffee via meal plans, they are technically violating the NCAA’s banned substance list.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I guess the bottom line is the people in charge of the Fargo team of out-of-staters admit that they dope their players. They admittedly pay people money, and those people provide banned drugs to players. These are facts. All apologies, but I refuse to celebrate such a filthy program. Disgusting cheats.

I think you need to contact the NCAA. They clearly need to investigate NDSU proving full cost of attendance (which is allowed by the NCAA) and investigate one player being suspended for too much caffeine.

You have so much inside knowledge on this. Please do the right thing and call the NCAA.

:lol: Couldn't handle it. I knew it.

Fargo State should be self reporting the banned drug distribution by someone they pay. Clearly, you've never worked an unpaid three-month internship in NCAA compliance.

That is why I think you need to contact the NCAA.

For the record, I have firsthand knowledge on the situation and know for a fact the NCAA was contacted and did look into it.

Drinking coffee or Mountain Dew is going against the banned substance list. It is up to the player to regulate what goes into his body and realize the effect. If the University of Montana ever provides their players with caffeinated soda or coffee via meal plans, they are technically violating the NCAA’s banned substance list.

At least UM doesn't pay boosters to give players banned drugs like NDSU does.

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

I think you need to contact the NCAA. They clearly need to investigate NDSU proving full cost of attendance (which is allowed by the NCAA) and investigate one player being suspended for too much caffeine.

You have so much inside knowledge on this. Please do the right thing and call the NCAA.

:lol: Couldn't handle it. I knew it.

Fargo State should be self reporting the banned drug distribution by someone they pay. Clearly, you've never worked an unpaid three-month internship in NCAA compliance.

That is why I think you need to contact the NCAA.

For the record, I have firsthand knowledge on the situation and know for a fact the NCAA was contacted and did look into it.

Drinking coffee or Mountain Dew is going against the banned substance list. It is up to the player to regulate what goes into his body and realize the effect. If the University of Montana ever provides their players with caffeinated soda or coffee via meal plans, they are technically violating the NCAA’s banned substance list.

At least UM doesn't pay boosters to give players banned drugs like NDSU does.

If any season ticket holder, donor etc has ever, through the course of owning a business, sold a University of Montana football player a caffeinated beverage, then the answer is yes.

I’m sorry for arguing with you. I don’t want to anymore.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

:lol: Couldn't handle it. I knew it.

Fargo State should be self reporting the banned drug distribution by someone they pay. Clearly, you've never worked an unpaid three-month internship in NCAA compliance.

That is why I think you need to contact the NCAA.

For the record, I have firsthand knowledge on the situation and know for a fact the NCAA was contacted and did look into it.

Drinking coffee or Mountain Dew is going against the banned substance list. It is up to the player to regulate what goes into his body and realize the effect. If the University of Montana ever provides their players with caffeinated soda or coffee via meal plans, they are technically violating the NCAA’s banned substance list.

At least UM doesn't pay boosters to give players banned drugs like NDSU does.

If any season ticket holder, donor etc has ever, through the course of owning a business, sold a University of Montana football player a caffeinated beverage, then the answer is yes.

Nope. Wasn’t a question. And UM doesn’t pay boosters to give banned drugs to football players like the Bison do. Try again.

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

That is why I think you need to contact the NCAA.

For the record, I have firsthand knowledge on the situation and know for a fact the NCAA was contacted and did look into it.

Drinking coffee or Mountain Dew is going against the banned substance list. It is up to the player to regulate what goes into his body and realize the effect. If the University of Montana ever provides their players with caffeinated soda or coffee via meal plans, they are technically violating the NCAA’s banned substance list.

At least UM doesn't pay boosters to give players banned drugs like NDSU does.

If any season ticket holder, donor etc has ever, through the course of owning a business, sold a University of Montana football player a caffeinated beverage, then the answer is yes.

Nope. Wasn’t a question. And UM doesn’t pay boosters to give banned drugs to football players like the Bison do. Try again.

The NCAA is pretty clear on the matter actually.

http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-institute/topics/2019-20-ncaa-banned-substances

It is up to the player to be aware of what they are putting into their body. I know for a fact the NDSU athletics department, specifically Jim Kramer, constantly harps on players regarding being informed.

The NCAA bans caffeine yet puts out information to explain how athletes can safely consume caffeine and not test positive

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Caffeine%20and%20Athletic%20Performance.pdf

When Brock Robbins tested positive for caffeine, 20 other players on the team were also tested and were clean.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

At least UM doesn't pay boosters to give players banned drugs like NDSU does.

If any season ticket holder, donor etc has ever, through the course of owning a business, sold a University of Montana football player a caffeinated beverage, then the answer is yes.

Nope. Wasn’t a question. And UM doesn’t pay boosters to give banned drugs to football players like the Bison do. Try again.

The NCAA is pretty clear on the matter actually.

http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-institute/topics/2019-20-ncaa-banned-substances

It is up to the player to be aware of what they are putting into their body. I know for a fact the NDSU athletics department, specifically Jim Kramer, constantly harps on players regarding being informed.

The NCAA bans caffeine yet puts out information to explain how athletes can safely consume caffeine and not test positive

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Caffeine%20and%20Athletic%20Performance.pdf

When Brock Robbins tested positive for caffeine, 20 other players on the team were also tested and were clean.

Dirty program, IMO. Always has been.

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

If any season ticket holder, donor etc has ever, through the course of owning a business, sold a University of Montana football player a caffeinated beverage, then the answer is yes.

Nope. Wasn’t a question. And UM doesn’t pay boosters to give banned drugs to football players like the Bison do. Try again.

The NCAA is pretty clear on the matter actually.

http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-institute/topics/2019-20-ncaa-banned-substances

It is up to the player to be aware of what they are putting into their body. I know for a fact the NDSU athletics department, specifically Jim Kramer, constantly harps on players regarding being informed.

The NCAA bans caffeine yet puts out information to explain how athletes can safely consume caffeine and not test positive

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Caffeine%20and%20Athletic%20Performance.pdf

When Brock Robbins tested positive for caffeine, 20 other players on the team were also tested and were clean.

Dirty program, IMO. Always has been.

Alright CDA. You can have your opinion.

Have a good day.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

This is a historic day, everyone. Early reports are saying a Bizon fan is OK if someone on eGriz isn’t 100% complimentary toward Fargo State at all times. Let’s enjoy it.

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

At least UM doesn't pay boosters to give players banned drugs like NDSU does.

If any season ticket holder, donor etc has ever, through the course of owning a business, sold a University of Montana football player a caffeinated beverage, then the answer is yes.

Nope. Wasn’t a question. And UM doesn’t pay boosters to give banned drugs to football players like the Bison do. Try again.

The NCAA is pretty clear on the matter actually.

http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-institute/topics/2019-20-ncaa-banned-substances

It is up to the player to be aware of what they are putting into their body. I know for a fact the NDSU athletics department, specifically Jim Kramer, constantly harps on players regarding being informed.

The NCAA bans caffeine yet puts out information to explain how athletes can safely consume caffeine and not test positive

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Caffeine%20and%20Athletic%20Performance.pdf

When Brock Robbins tested positive for caffeine, 20 other players on the team were also tested and were clean.

I didn't know you had that many Mormons on your team? 20 is a lot.

 

[braves84]

So, after all of this, I suppose we can all agree on the following indisputable facts:

1. Fargo State pays its players to play football.
2. Fargo State paid a person who distributed banned drugs to players.
3. The Fargo State fan base is the most insecure fan base in the history of sports.

Am I missing anything?

Yeah, actually it's quite funny, ndsu hasn't played Montana for years.
So when somebody starts a ndsu thread, without fail you have to start chirping.
Pretty much says it all about being insecure.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

So, after all of this, I suppose we can all agree on the following indisputable facts:

1. Fargo State pays its players to play football.
2. Fargo State paid a person who distributed banned drugs to players.
3. The Fargo State fan base is the most insecure fan base in the history of sports.

Am I missing anything?

Yeah, actually it's quite funny, ndsu hasn't played Montana for years.
So when somebody starts a ndsu thread, without fail you have to start chirping.
Pretty much says it all about being insecure.

Check the url. :lol:
Pretty much! :lol: :thumb:

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Welcome, fans of UNDSU, to eGriz.com, where UNDSU supporters seek daily affirmation! :thumb:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

This game is being played tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. PST. Get your coffee pots ready and crack open a few eggs. JMU has more talent, but the Bizon have the ability to eat up the clock. It could be a battle. It would be interesting to see how NSDU responds if they get down by a couple scores because they aren't the type of team that scores quickly.

I'm going with 24-14, Dukes.

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

This game is being played tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. PST. Get your coffee pots ready and crack open a few eggs. JMU has more talent, but the Bizon have the ability to eat up the clock. It could be a battle. It would be interesting to see how NSDU responds if they get down by a couple scores because they aren't the type of team that scores quickly.

I'm going with 24-14, Dukes.

Clearly...as evidenced by the two back to back 70 yard TD’s NDSU had against Montana State. I don’t think Jeff Choate could say the word Bozeman as fast as the Bison scored.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

This game is being played tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. PST. Get your coffee pots ready and crack open a few eggs. JMU has more talent, but the Bizon have the ability to eat up the clock. It could be a battle. It would be interesting to see how NSDU responds if they get down by a couple scores because they aren't the type of team that scores quickly.

I'm going with 24-14, Dukes.

Clearly...as evidenced by the two back to back 70 yard TD’s NDSU had against Montana State. I don’t think Jeff Choate could say the word Bozeman as fast as the Bison scored.

Cool. It will be interesting if the Bizon get down a couple scores. They don't really have a come-from-behind type of offense.
Are you going to make a prediction?

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

This game is being played tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. PST. Get your coffee pots ready and crack open a few eggs. JMU has more talent, but the Bizon have the ability to eat up the clock. It could be a battle. It would be interesting to see how NSDU responds if they get down by a couple scores because they aren't the type of team that scores quickly.

I'm going with 24-14, Dukes.

Clearly...as evidenced by the two back to back 70 yard TD’s NDSU had against Montana State. I don’t think Jeff Choate could say the word Bozeman as fast as the Bison scored.

Cool. It will be interesting if the Bizon get down a couple scores. They don't really have a come-from-behind type of offense.
Are you going to make a prediction?

You don’t have a clue what type of offense they have or don’t have.

No I’m not going to make a prediction. The game could go any way.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

This game is being played tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. PST. Get your coffee pots ready and crack open a few eggs. JMU has more talent, but the Bizon have the ability to eat up the clock. It could be a battle. It would be interesting to see how NSDU responds if they get down by a couple scores because they aren't the type of team that scores quickly.

I'm going with 24-14, Dukes.

Clearly...as evidenced by the two back to back 70 yard TD’s NDSU had against Montana State. I don’t think Jeff Choate could say the word Bozeman as fast as the Bison scored.

Cool. It will be interesting if the Bizon get down a couple scores. They don't really have a come-from-behind type of offense.
Are you going to make a prediction?

You don’t have a clue what type of offense they have or don’t have.

No I’m not going to make a prediction. The game could go any way.

I disagree. I know from watching games and reading your posts on eGriz that they do not pass the ball a lot. In fact, I believe that was a direct quote from you when you were trying to make an excuse about the QBs less than impressive passing ypg.

 

[SaskGriz]

This game is being played tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. PST. Get your coffee pots ready and crack open a few eggs. JMU has more talent, but the Bizon have the ability to eat up the clock. It could be a battle. It would be interesting to see how NSDU responds if they get down by a couple scores because they aren't the type of team that scores quickly.

I'm going with 24-14, Dukes.

Clearly...as evidenced by the two back to back 70 yard TD’s NDSU had against Montana State. I don’t think Jeff Choate could say the word Bozeman as fast as the Bison scored.

Cool. It will be interesting if the Bizon get down a couple scores. They don't really have a come-from-behind type of offense.
Are you going to make a prediction?

You don’t have a clue what type of offense they have or don’t have.

No I’m not going to make a prediction. The game could go any way.

In that case I'm taking a 1-1 tie. Or did you mean either way?