FCS/1-AA championships, which direction do we go?

[mtgrizrule]

With all the Stitt, Hauck, championship talk, I did some research. I put in parenthesis how many seasons it took for each coach to win their 1st FCS/1-AA Championship. Interpret this research as you wish. It appears to me, championships can be won within 3 years or sooner. However, sustaining championship runs definitely takes time for a program and coach.

To me, GRIZ NATION has to decide, what do we want to accomplish? Long term multiple champions, or just make a run or 2?

If we want to commit to long term success, I feel it is best to commit to 1 coach (in this case, Stitt), or whoever it might be that replaces him, if that happens. I also feel, it would be best to have a head coach in waiting, within the current staff, if the program is competitive.

The best Championship runs of FCS/1-AA history took 5+ years to build, the exception being Paul Johnson. I am not counting Klieman, being he was already in place with Bohl, and NDSU kept it internal.
I do feel, patience pays off at the FCS/1-AA level. 39 champions (11 multiple championships=28 remaining champions)
6- 1st year
4- 2nd year
4 -3rd year
0- 4th year
3- 5th year
11- 6 or greater years

Noteworthy: Erk Russell (5th year), Jim Tressel (6th year), Paul Johnson (3rd year), Jerry Moore (17th year), NDSU (Bohl/Klieman-9 years,8 years at FCS/1-AA)).

2016 James Madison Mike Houston 28-14 Youngstown State Frisco, Texas (1st year)
2015 North Dakota State Chris Klieman 37-10 Jacksonville State Frisco, Texas (n/a)
2014 North Dakota State Chris Klieman 29-27 Illinois State Frisco,Texas (1st year-NDSU since 2011)
2013 North Dakota State Craig Bohl 35-7 Towson Frisco, Texas (n/a)
2012 North Dakota State Craig Bohl 39-13 Sam Houston State Frisco, Texas (n/a)
2011 North Dakota State Craig Bohl 17-6 Sam Houston State Frisco, Texas (9th year overall, 8th year at FCS/1-AA)
2010 Eastern Washington Beau Baldwin 20-19 Delaware Frisco, Texas (3rd year)
2009 Villanova Andy Talley 23-21 Montana Chattanooga, Tenn. (25th year)
2008 Richmond Mike London 24-7 Montana Chattanooga, Tenn. (1st year)
2007 Appalachian State Jerry Moore 49-21 Delaware Chattanooga, Tenn. (n/a)
2006 Appalachian State Jerry Moore 28-17 Massachusetts Chattanooga, Tenn. (n/a)
2005 Appalachian State Jerry Moore 21-16 UNI Chattanooga, Tenn. (17th year)
2004 James Madison Mickey Matthews 31-21 Montana Chattanooga, Tenn. (6th year)
2003 Delaware K.C. Keeler 40-0 Colgate Chattanooga, Tenn. (2nd season)
2002 Western Kentucky Jack Harbaugh 34-14 McNeese State Chattanooga, Tenn. (14th year)
2001 Montana Joe Glenn 13-6 Furman Chattanooga, Tenn. (2nd year)
2000 Georgia Southern Paul Johnson 27-25 Montana Chattanooga, Tenn. (n/a)
1999 Georgia Southern Paul Johnson 59-24 Youngstown State Chattanooga, Tenn. (3rd year)
1998 Massachusetts Mark Whipple 55-43 Georgia Southern Chattanooga, Tenn. (1st year)
1997 Youngstown State Jim Tressel 10-9 McNeese State Chattanooga, Tenn. (n/a)
1996 Marshall Bob Pruett 49-29 Montana Huntington, W.Va. (1st year)
1995 Montana Don Read 22-20 Marshall Huntington, W.Va. (10th year)
1994 Youngstown State Jim Tressel 28-14 Boise State Huntington, W.Va. (n/a)
1993 Youngstown State Jim Tressel 17-5 Marshall Huntington, W.Va. (n/a)
1992 Marshall Jim Donnan 31-28 Youngstown State Huntington, W.Va. (3rd year)
1991 Youngstown State Jim Tressel 25-17 Marshall Statesboro, Ga. (6th year)
1990 Georgia Southern Tim Stowers 36-13 Nevada Statesboro, Ga. (1st year-GSU assistant coach from 85-89)
1989 Georgia Southern Erk Russell 37-34 Stephen F. Austin * Statesboro, Ga. (n/a)
1988 Furman Jimmy Satterfield 17-12 Georgia Southern Pocatello, Idaho (3rd year)
1987 Louisiana-Monroe Pat Collins 43-42 Marshall Pocatello, Idaho (8th year)
1986 Georgia Southern Erk Russell 48-21 Arkansas State Tacoma, Wash. (n/a 2nd one)
1985 Georgia Southern Erk Russell 44-42 Furman Tacoma, Wash. (5th year)
1984 Montana State Dave Arnold 19-6 Louisiana Tech Charleston, S.C. (2nd year)
1983 Southern Illinois Rey Dempsey 43-7 Western Carolina Charleston, S.C. (8th year)
1982 Eastern Kentucky Roy Kidd 17-14 Delaware Wichita Falls, Texas (n/a, 2nd championship)
1981 Idaho State Dave Kragthorpe 34-23 Eastern Kentucky Wichita Falls, Texas (2nd year)
1980 Boise State Jim Criner 31-29 Eastern Kentucky Sacramento, Calif. (5th year)
1979 Eastern Kentucky Roy Kidd 30-7 Lehigh Orlando, Fla. (16th year)
1978 Florida A&M Ruby Hubbard 35-28 Massachusetts Wichita Falls, Texas (5th year)

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

Well put together post man.

Took Don Read 10 years to get one.

Took Craig Bohl 9.

It might also be worth looking into the what the team looked like before those coaches got there.

 

[Spanky]

Well I have one word to describe Stitts teams: Confusion

 

[get'em_griz]

Well I have one word to describe Stitts teams: Confusion

No worse than Delaney's teams.

 

[ordigger]

Imagine if we have an Andy Talley on our hands.

eGriz will literally cease to exist with the meltdown here.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Can we get this broken down by teams that play above 5000 feet? How about teams that play in domes? What about teams that play within 250 miles of an ocean? How about teams geographically separated from a FBS school by 100 miles or less? What about teams from schools that offer engineering?

Way too many variables involved to reach any conclusions about this.

Which direction should we go? Whichever direction produces victories over the cats, conference championships, home playoff games, and legitimate opportunities to compete for National Titles.

 

[Grizzly96]

Can we get this broken down by teams that play above 5000 feet? How about teams that play in domes? What about teams that play within 250 miles of an ocean? How about teams geographically separated from a FBS school by 100 miles or less? What about teams from schools that offer engineering?

Way too many variables involved to reach any conclusions about this.

Which direction should we go? Whichever direction produces victories over the cats, conference championships, home playoff games, and legitimate opportunities to compete for National Titles.

Well that clears it up.....The Griz and every other team out there!! Y'all that act like there is some easy automatic formula for this amaze me.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Can we get this broken down by teams that play above 5000 feet? How about teams that play in domes? What about teams that play within 250 miles of an ocean? How about teams geographically separated from a FBS school by 100 miles or less? What about teams from schools that offer engineering?

Way too many variables involved to reach any conclusions about this.

Which direction should we go? Whichever direction produces victories over the cats, conference championships, home playoff games, and legitimate opportunities to compete for National Titles.

Well that clears it up.....The Griz and every other team out there!! Y'all that act like there is some easy automatic formula for this amaze me.

I've never suggested it was easy. But, it was part of the Griz fabric for 25 years....right now, not so much.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Can we get this broken down by teams that play above 5000 feet? How about teams that play in domes? What about teams that play within 250 miles of an ocean? How about teams geographically separated from a FBS school by 100 miles or less? What about teams from schools that offer engineering?

Way too many variables involved to reach any conclusions about this.

Which direction should we go? Whichever direction produces victories over the cats, conference championships, home playoff games, and legitimate opportunities to compete for National Titles.

Well that clears it up.....The Griz and every other team out there!! Y'all that act like there is some easy automatic formula for this amaze me.

I've never suggested it was easy. But, it was part of the Griz fabric for 25 years....right now, not so much.

For 25 years after it took Read 10 years to build it up. I think that's kinda the point he's trying to make. But all the Stitt haters/Bobby lovers will choose to ignore any thing that goes against their line of thought, typical politics.

Yes, this program has been going through a rebuild that we were forced to endure with the culture that was aloud to exist here and Delaney having to try and bring our program back into good standing. Now Stitt is starting year three and, in my opinion, just now reaching the potential to bring us back to national dominance. Let's see where he takes it this year and possibly beyond. 6-5 this year and another loss to the cats, I'm on board that he might not work. 8-3 and a couple good playoff wins. I think we're still going in the right direction.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Can we get this broken down by teams that play above 5000 feet? How about teams that play in domes? What about teams that play within 250 miles of an ocean? How about teams geographically separated from a FBS school by 100 miles or less? What about teams from schools that offer engineering?

Way too many variables involved to reach any conclusions about this.

Which direction should we go? Whichever direction produces victories over the cats, conference championships, home playoff games, and legitimate opportunities to compete for National Titles.

Well that clears it up.....The Griz and every other team out there!! Y'all that act like there is some easy automatic formula for this amaze me.

I've never suggested it was easy. But, it was part of the Griz fabric for 25 years....right now, not so much.

For 25 years after it took Read 10 years to build it up. I think that's kinda the point he's trying to make. But all the Stitt haters/Bobby lovers will choose to ignore any thing that goes against their line of thought, typical politics.

Yes, this program has been going through a rebuild that we were forced to endure with the culture that was aloud to exist here and Delaney having to try and bring our program back into good standing. Now Stitt is starting year three and, in my opinion, just now reaching the potential to bring us back to national dominance. Let's see where he takes it this year and possibly beyond. 6-5 this year and another loss to the cats, I'm on board that he might not work. 8-3 and a couple good playoff wins. I think we're still going in the right direction.

I'll assume you aren't counting me amongst the "Stitt Haters." I am not. I agree with everything you've posted above...but, hoping like hell they are going in the right direction.

 

[grizcountry420]

Well I have one word to describe Stitts teams: Confusion

No worse than Delaney's teams.

Delaney may have chosen to kick off twice to Northern Colorado but he never lost a game against them..

 

[i_the_sky]

Coach Hauck has more than proved he is a winner (3) FCS championship appearances and too many BSC championships to write down here... He is not on the current staff but is far superior to anyone that is! This existing coaching staff lacks the ability to coach fundamentals (special teams#1) and the aura of being a Mt. Grizzly!!! Coach Hauck is a proven genius at both! This is a no brainier guys! Next your going to suggest hiring Ty Gregorak? If Ty Gregorak's name comes up that will be hurling time so clear your desks, GUYS!folks'Royce Engstrom's foreign student recruiting(muslims) hurt our athletic departments more than anything! not to mention his HIS selling the farm to the NCAA!thank god, he is gone! It's time to finish cleaning the house and get back to Grizzly football!! Do not mess up this opportunity! Stit has one hell of a lot fundimentals to get done before I'm on board!

 

[SeattleBobcat]

Coach Hauck has more than proved he is a winner (3) FCS championship appearances and too many BSC championships to write down here... He is not on the current staff but is far superior to anyone that is! This existing coaching staff lacks the ability to coach fundamentals (special teams#1) and the aura of being a Mt. Grizzly!!! Coach Hauck is a proven genius at both! This is a no brainier guys! Next your going to suggest hiring Ty Gregorak? If Ty Gregorak's name comes up that will be hurling time so clear your desks, GUYS!folks'Royce Engstrom's foreign student recruiting(muslims) hurt our athletic departments more than anything! not to mention his HIS selling the farm to the NCAA!thank god, he is gone! It's time to finish cleaning the house and get back to Grizzly football!! Do not mess up this opportunity! Stit has one hell of a lot fundimentals to get done before I'm on board!

The griz get anymore fans like you and they're in real trouble... Jesus Christ man WTF compelled you to go full racist? You sir are the definition of a Walmart griz fan, because there's no fvcking way you made it thru the eighth grade.

 

[i_the_sky]

Coach Hauck has more than proved he is a winner (3) FCS championship appearances and too many BSC championships to write down here... He is not on the current staff but is far superior to anyone that is! This existing coaching staff lacks the ability to coach fundamentals and (special teams... The aura of being a Mt. Grizzly is gone!!Coach Hauck is a proven genius as a football coach! This is a no brainier guys! Next your going to suggest hiring Ty Gregorak? If Ty Gregorak's name comes up that will be hurling time so clear your desks,folks...Royce Engstrom's foreign student recruiting(muslims) hurt our athletic departments more than anything, using football was a wrongful, scapegoat! not to mention him selling out to the NCAA!Thank god, he is gone! Now It's time to finish cleaning the house and get back to Grizzly football!! Do not mess up this opportunity! Stit has one hell of a lot fundamentals to get taught before I'm on board! Kick off/ punt returns do not = a fair catch at the 10 yard line every time!! Secial teams and turnovers winor lose over 30%of the games... You can not afford to concede over 1/3 of your games!

 

[Paytonlives]

Here we go again....