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Falsely Accused

stubbins said:
Sportin' Life said:
NorthwestFresh said:
One thing I've learned from this case is that Beau Donaldson was a fool for pleading guilty to rape, because in Missoula, if you're a football player, saying no doesn't matter if you are a woman. It's whether or not the football player understands what no means. :o

You get a visceral reaction from this statement because there is a kernel of truth in there. Johnson first learned that the woman wanted to charge him with rape via a letter from the school and immediately lawyered up. If Donaldson had immediately gotten a lawyer and said nothing to his victim he absolutely would be a free man right now, there is no question.


or perhaps....one was guilty and one was innocent. could that be the difference?

It could be.
 
Raider said:
NWF, do you ever get tired of sneaking around like a little coward?


Gawd you are a bitch.........

Raider, you're one of my favorite posters, and this is damn near exactly what I was thinking ...

:clap:

fucking coward
 
CV Griz Fan said:
stubbins said:
NorthwestFresh said:
One thing I've learned from this case is that Beau Donaldson was a fool for pleading guilty to rape, because in Missoula, if you're a football player, saying no doesn't matter if you are a woman. It's whether or not the football player understands what no means. :o
:loser:


You are one dumb mother f***[*]...

JJ is no saint. That's for sure. But don't you think your statement is a little harsh?

I don't.

Did you actually read that dipsh*t's post? The cynicism and outright insult to ALL Griz players is overt but cowardly. He/she thinks they're witty and poignant, but they're just douchey and cowardly.

Guaranteed its one of GF's FB buddies. :loser:
 
CFallsGriz said:
CV Griz Fan said:
stubbins said:
NorthwestFresh said:
One thing I've learned from this case is that Beau Donaldson was a fool for pleading guilty to rape, because in Missoula, if you're a football player, saying no doesn't matter if you are a woman. It's whether or not the football player understands what no means. :o
:loser:


You are one dumb mother f***[*]...

JJ is no saint. That's for sure. But don't you think your statement is a little harsh?

I don't.

Did you actually read that dipsh*t's post? The cynicism and outright insult to ALL Griz players is overt but cowardly. He/she thinks they're witty and poignant, but they're just douchey and cowardly.

Guaranteed its one of GF's FB buddies. :loser:

No, I think Donaldson made a mistake by pleading guilty. It was a dumb move, IMO. I think a jury would have let him off. I don't think JJ raped the young lady, fwiw.
 
CV Griz Fan said:
stubbins said:
NorthwestFresh said:
One thing I've learned from this case is that Beau Donaldson was a fool for pleading guilty to rape, because in Missoula, if you're a football player, saying no doesn't matter if you are a woman. It's whether or not the football player understands what no means. :o


You are one dumb mother f***[*]...

JJ is no saint. That's for sure. But don't you think your statement is a little harsh?


Just to clarify, may comments were directed at Northwest not Stubbins.
 
NorthwestFresh said:
CFallsGriz said:
CV Griz Fan said:
stubbins said:
:loser:


You are one dumb mother f***[*]...

JJ is no saint. That's for sure. But don't you think your statement is a little harsh?

I don't.

Did you actually read that dipsh*t's post? The cynicism and outright insult to ALL Griz players is overt but cowardly. He/she thinks they're witty and poignant, but they're just douchey and cowardly.

Guaranteed its one of GF's FB buddies. :loser:

No, I think Donaldson made a mistake by pleading guilty. It was a dumb move, IMO. I think a jury would have let him off. I don't think JJ raped the young lady, fwiw.


Keep on fishing fuck nuts...I'm sure you'll get one idiot to agree with you, so you can pronounce what a horrid fanbase and a horrid culture we fans are cultivating. The fish are selective though, you may have to adjust the drag on your fly, not make it so fucking obvious.

You've gotten dumber in the last 2 hours....
 
EverettGriz said:
NorthwestFresh said:
One thing I've learned from this case is that Beau Donaldson was a fool for pleading guilty to rape, because in Missoula, if you're a football player, saying no doesn't matter if you are a woman. It's whether or not the football player understands what no means. :o


Mods,


BAN THIS IDIOT!!!!!!!!!
STFU

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NorthwestFresh said:
One thing I've learned from this case is that Beau Donaldson was a fool for pleading guilty to rape, because in Missoula, if you're a football player, saying no doesn't matter if you are a woman. It's whether or not the football player understands what no means. :o

Apples and Oranges. ASSHOLE!!!!!!
 
grizatwork said:
NorthwestFresh said:
One thing I've learned from this case is that Beau Donaldson was a fool for pleading guilty to rape, because in Missoula, if you're a football player, saying no doesn't matter if you are a woman. It's whether or not the football player understands what no means. :o

Apples and Oranges. ASSHOLE!!!!!!
Pretty tough for BD's victim to say no since she was passed out.
 
NorthwestFresh said:
CFallsGriz said:
CV Griz Fan said:
stubbins said:
:loser:


You are one dumb mother f***[*]...

JJ is no saint. That's for sure. But don't you think your statement is a little harsh?

I don't.

Did you actually read that dipsh*t's post? The cynicism and outright insult to ALL Griz players is overt but cowardly. He/she thinks they're witty and poignant, but they're just douchey and cowardly.

Guaranteed its one of GF's FB buddies. :loser:

No, I think Donaldson made a mistake by pleading guilty. It was a dumb move, IMO. I think a jury would have let him off. I don't think JJ raped the young lady, fwiw.
Donaldson admitted to it in a recorded phone call...no jury would have let him off.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
EverettGriz said:
NorthwestFresh said:
One thing I've learned from this case is that Beau Donaldson was a fool for pleading guilty to rape, because in Missoula, if you're a football player, saying no doesn't matter if you are a woman. It's whether or not the football player understands what no means. :o


Mods,


BAN THIS IDIOT!!!!!!!!!
STFU

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2


My point exactly. Thanks alfalfa!

th
 
grzz said:
I don't think people should claim to know what all 12 jurors used as the determining factor based on one jurors quotes in the Missoulian, which may have just taken part of what she said in the interview and put it in the paper.
Where can I find this interview? Do I have to go to the Missoulian site to find it?
 
This is what TokyoGriz posted in another thread:

"The jurors on TV didnt buy the line of bullshit for a second. One juror I saw said they sat in SILENCE for a few minutes... took a vote and EVERYONE of them called it as the BS it was."
 
PlayerRep said:
This is what TokyoGriz posted in another thread:

"The jurors on TV didnt buy the line of bullshit for a second. One juror I saw said they sat in SILENCE for a few minutes... took a vote and EVERYONE of them called it as the BS it was."
Is there a link to the jurors interviews?
I had thought it probably was 12-0 or 11-1 on the initial poll.
 
The real; problem is that while women's groups say all men are potential rapists, men should realize all women are potential false accusers. Even if you don't have sex, a few months later she can say you raped her, and you have to prove your innocence.

JJ's trial was a perfect example of using all the things the accuser did as evidence of rape. But if everything is evidence of rape, then nothing is evidence of rape as well.

We live in a dangerous world my friends.
 
this is a not case of false accusation. the police would've had to immediately prove that and have the accuser drop the charge, or they would have to charge the victim and take her to court and prove that she's lying, or she will need to admit to that. you can't say a not guilty verdict proves that the accusation is false.

the biggest piece of evidence against beau donaldson was his own words that were recorded by the police. he admitted to what he did. had he not unknowingly admitted to it, it's very unlikely he would've been found guilty. it's the only difference between it and the j.j. case.
 
getgrizzy said:
this is a not case of false accusation. the police would've had to immediately prove that and have the accuser drop the charge, or they would have to charge the victim and take her to court and prove that she's lying, or she will need to admit to that. you can't say a not guilty verdict proves that the accusation is false.

the biggest piece of evidence against beau donaldson was his own words that were recorded by the police. he admitted to what he did. had he not unknowingly admitted to it, it's very unlikely he would've been found guilty. it's the only difference between it and the j.j. case.
Uh, I can think of another difference. Donaldson was guilty and JJ wasn't? If many people think like you, this is a pretty scary world.
 
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