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Fall camp, impressions 1 week in

Finally, some real football talk on eGriz!

"Just my opinion, but I think there are a lot on this board get stuck on the personnel/alignment and not whether what they are asking the personnel to do within the scheme is executable"

I get what you are saying and maybe I'm saying the same thing but in a different way. Isn't the 30 front at a natural disadvantage against Power Gap offenses?
No, an Odd Front actually is better schematically against Gap schemes due to the fact that the offense doesn't have the natural angles for down blocks that an Even front gives. Now, as mentioned above it is more about the Jimmy's and the Joe's than the X's and the O's when teams like NDSU, SDSU, and MSU are just better up front then it usually doesn't matter what front you are running on D.
 
I'm talking about NDSU, SDSU, and, to some extent, MSU's Power Gap offenses. I agree that the LB unit we have this year could give these teams fits, especially Solo. It will also take our DL playing up to their expectations.
Has #38, linebacker Caleb Moran, Army transfer, done enough to get anyone’s attention that has been to practice?
 
No, an Odd Front actually is better schematically against Gap schemes due to the fact that the offense doesn't have the natural angles for down blocks that an Even front gives. Now, as mentioned above it is more about the Jimmy's and the Joe's than the X's and the O's when teams like NDSU, SDSU, and MSU are just better up front then it usually doesn't matter what front you are running on D.

Hopefully we got that guy this year but we need a monster at the NT position every season and honestly should be one of our top priorities with recruiting and the Transfer Portal. We were so successful in 2023 because of Gubner being Double and sometimes triple teamed, and that helped out our Linebackers.
 
Hopefully we got that guy this year but we need a monster at the NT position every season and honestly should be one of our top priorities with recruiting and the Transfer Portal. We were so successful in 2023 because of Gubner being Double and sometimes triple teamed, and that helped out our Linebackers.
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Finally, some real football talk on eGriz!

"Just my opinion, but I think there are a lot on this board get stuck on the personnel/alignment and not whether what they are asking the personnel to do within the scheme is executable"

I get what you are saying and maybe I'm saying the same thing but in a different way. Isn't the 30 front at a natural disadvantage against Power Gap offenses?

Will try to explain this without charts and graphs.

The core belief that I believe was issued on high from the lord and savior Knute Rockne some 100 years ago, and has become almost cult like in obsession in and out of coaching circles is that 'thou shalt not defeateth the power horde offense with an oddeth fronteth." When I started coaching football in the early 2000's, I heard it over and over again. So much so that I drank the proverbial kool-aid in that regard.

I've learned a LOT more over the years that defensive orthodoxy leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to what actually works versus doesn't. Part of the reason is that if you rigidly apply scheme, then yes it doesn't necessarily work against power schemes to allow them to simply ORO you and down block your NT w/ leverage all day long. The belief was that you couldn't leave a guards uncovered, because they could reach your LB's too easily. Again if you are reading and reacting from depth as LB's were taught to for decades, to slow play, read the guards, and flow, your LB's will be on the underside of blocks all game long. Tough to play that way.

The 4-2 and the 3-3 both unhinge a lot of the traditional rules about interior LB play and how you use your DL to play on the LOS. I coached in a league where we saw wing-t, veer iso and classic lead/power zone 90% of our season and when we were moving from the stack 4-4 to the 3-5-3, I thought it was absurd we'd make that decision. We took the GMC 3-5-3 which is all line movement and paired it with tons of combo pressure from our interior 3 LB's and teams we couldn't stop playing 4-4 and 4-6 looks in the wing-t for four years, and they absolutely couldn't handle the DL movement and how quickly our LB's were at the LOS. Our NT was a 6-1 kid who was maybe 190 pounds, and he ended up as a first team all league DL because sort of like Gubner, they didn't have an answer for his first step. You can absolutely flubber power teams if you compress their decision making and speed them up.

I just think you can look at what offensive teams want to do, and you can take your personnel and your scheme and you can absolutely manipulate it to get the best type of scheme. The next year we recognized we couldn't play the same way with just a 30 and found an answer a few games in by playing a hybrid over/under front with a stand up LB on the weakside in a quasi-40. The 3-3 allows for that in multiple variations and you can play it just about any way you want. Just so long that your willing to understand what you get/lose with those subtle adjustments and as long as you aren't static in your play calling, what you lose (gap integrity/gap control w/ bodies) you can make up in variance and speed.

Hopefully that makes some sense. There is a reason why I am just a pedestrian blogger.
 
If I was a college LB I would want to play in Griz defense. And the Griz had their best years when there was a group of fast and athletic LBs. Last year they were not as fast as a group. If you look at group the Griz have this year I think we will see a scary unit. If you are talking about “Power Gap” offenses like NDSU, SDSU and MSU (the last couple years) stopping them had less to do with the defensive scheme and more to do with the fact they had outstanding offensive lines. If your are getting your ass blown off the ball by guys that might play on Sundays there is very little a coach can do over the course of a game to change that. The whole key to NDSU and SDSU success the last decade or so is their O Line. The control the ball and wear the defenses down. And if you can’t run the ball in return and take some time off the clock to keep your defensive guys fresh you can’t stop them.
So you are saying scary good, UR? :cool:
 
Listening to the Lackeys they sound like the entire team has improved a ton in just a week.
They liked the speed of the LBs and were fairly high on Ramos.
Sounds like the receiving core could be one of the most athletic in years. Bohanan could start out as a top target.
 
IMO, we need only a QB this season who can manage the offense and occasionally toss a long ball (1-3 times a game) to keep teams honest.

I also feel Flowers will end up being QB #2.

This will be good for the Griz for the upcoming several years.
That seems to be the mantra every year... QB
 
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