Do you think Fonoti will run for over 700 yards at over 6 yards a carry?
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Fall camp, impressions 1 week in
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Hard to say, if you look at the top 3 running backs from the last few seasons:
2024:
Gillman - 1104
Ostmo - 769
Fonoti - 234
2023:
Gillman - 1007
Ostmo - 655
Harris - 238
(Also had McDowell at 753 but I'm just counting RBs)
2022:
Ostmo - 731
Knight - 305
Childs - 300
2021:
Harris - 707
Bergen - 521
Childs - 218
2019:
Knight - 1030
Ostmo - 319
Eastwood - 113
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Only once has the 2nd team RB had over 700 yards and I think we're going to see a little more of Rocker than Fonoti carrying the ball this year - although both deserve touches.
Do you think you could stop pretending that you're Not a huge Bub supporter?
Ut-Grizfan
Well-known member
We need a QB who can deliver the deep ball to take full advantage of that, hopefully AhYat (still not sold on him personally) or whoever the starter ends up being can take full advantage. We definitely have the schedule this season to improve and gel as a team to make a good playoff run so I hope it happens.
IMO, we need only a QB this season who can manage the offense and occasionally toss a long ball (1-3 times a game) to keep teams honest.
I also feel Flowers will end up being QB #2.
This will be good for the Griz for the upcoming several years.
I also feel Flowers will end up being QB #2.
This will be good for the Griz for the upcoming several years.
Ut-Grizfan
Well-known member
Hopefully we can keep them around if one of them ends up balling out
Having coached both defenses (4-2-5 and 3-3) and I can say this while avoiding writing a whole white paper on the deal: The structural differences inside the box (alignment and assignment) is less significant than on the back end. Ran enough 30 in the 4-2-5 and a whole host of 40 under and over in the 3-3 using similar defensive players. I've said this a ton over the years, if you have the right personnel in your SE, NT/DT and DT, you can toggle between 30/40 relatively easily. Really it comes down to what role you want the DT/NT to play and whether that guy can execute that role. You don't need a 'prototypical' NT to have a great 30 front, but it sure helps. If you want him to be the classic two gap guy on top of the center, and that is how you are going to play your scheme then that guy better be beefy and hard to move. If you are intent to moving that guy around (dropping him, running twists, stunts and sticks) then he probably doesn't need to be shaped like a bowling ball. Beyond that both defenses with different verbiage and philosophies use a flex player on the L.O.S. (rush end/LB in the 30) and quick end in the TCU (Gary Patterson 4-2-5). The two anchor LB inside the tackles are essentially free players w/ little pass responsibilities. Reads are a bit different, but when it comes down to it is the style and substance of what you are having the DL/LB do that creates a clear separation between the two defenses.
I for one prefer the rules of the 4-2, but really grew (with time) to like the positional and schematic flexibility of the 3-3. I used that 3-3 from every thing from a 3-2 Dime to a 5-3 run stopping bear defense with a lot of the same personnel. Just my opinion, but I think there are a lot on this board get stuck on the personnel/alignment and not whether what they are asking the personnel to do within the scheme is executable. That remains to be seen with this group, but the 3-3 at its foundation is entirely capable of handling the personnel and the opposition the Griz will face.
Just my two cents.
I for one prefer the rules of the 4-2, but really grew (with time) to like the positional and schematic flexibility of the 3-3. I used that 3-3 from every thing from a 3-2 Dime to a 5-3 run stopping bear defense with a lot of the same personnel. Just my opinion, but I think there are a lot on this board get stuck on the personnel/alignment and not whether what they are asking the personnel to do within the scheme is executable. That remains to be seen with this group, but the 3-3 at its foundation is entirely capable of handling the personnel and the opposition the Griz will face.
Just my two cents.
I respect you Remax but you fell hard for PTs BS this time complete with a chart. SMH
You know me, I love some charts and graphs
HelenaHandBasket
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Foreplay in your house must be spectacular.
Miltongriz23
Member
Looks like they updated player weights on the 2025 roster.
It’s a legitimate question.
The poster stated that the running game would lead to a much better passing game. Solid theory! Last year RB2 ran for 700+ yards on over 6 YPC and the passing game was still mediocre with better passing weapons. So, that leads one to question how much better Fonoti is than Ostmo.
Of course, the true point is that Ah Yat was, uh, not good last year and needs to improve a lot. Which is very normal for a freshman QB. No need to gloss over it though.
Lastly, if the slightest bit of critical thinking, the slightest amount of oppositional viewpoint automatically lends you to think “ENEMY!”, it says a lot about how you think and your potential for growth.
What BS?
So was Bear Axed's.
We all know you're a bub. I get why it's a difficult thing to admit, but when you haven't fooled anyone in nearly a decade, perhaps it's time to own it. Acceptance is the first step.
You’re a sad, little man Everett.
Caught some practice today. First impressions is that the defense is more athletic and deeper. LB’s really stand out in that regard. Tiliaupupu is a physical specimen. Our 3 RBs are really good. Hard to get a feel for receivers other than Worthman and Brooks Davis look good. Josh Gale I think will get a lot of looks at TE. Need to protect Ty Morrison at all costs. Some creative wrinkles on offense. QB looks to be a 2 players competition between the two young guys.
GriznMN
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Finally, some real football talk on eGriz!
"Just my opinion, but I think there are a lot on this board get stuck on the personnel/alignment and not whether what they are asking the personnel to do within the scheme is executable"
I get what you are saying and maybe I'm saying the same thing but in a different way. Isn't the 30 front at a natural disadvantage against Power Gap offenses?
If I was a college LB I would want to play in Griz defense. And the Griz had their best years when there was a group of fast and athletic LBs. Last year they were not as fast as a group. If you look at group the Griz have this year I think we will see a scary unit. If you are talking about “Power Gap” offenses like NDSU, SDSU and MSU (the last couple years) stopping them had less to do with the defensive scheme and more to do with the fact they had outstanding offensive lines. If your are getting your ass blown off the ball by guys that might play on Sundays there is very little a coach can do over the course of a game to change that. The whole key to NDSU and SDSU success the last decade or so is their O Line. The control the ball and wear the defenses down. And if you can’t run the ball in return and take some time off the clock to keep your defensive guys fresh you can’t stop them.
GriznMN
Well-known member
I'm talking about NDSU, SDSU, and, to some extent, MSU's Power Gap offenses. I agree that the LB unit we have this year could give these teams fits, especially Solo. It will also take our DL playing up to their expectations.
Says the guy posting on his rival's board but is too chickenshit to admit what he really is.
Only a bub.....
