Fair Reporting

[Grizfan-24]

Gwen Florio can write whatever she wants. Doesn't make it great journalism or even a good story. Buy the paper, don't buy the paper, but if you see her name in the by line the pass on by to the next story if she is going to anger you that much.

Her article was terribly flawed, and I wrote about it elsewhere so I won't repeat much of what I said, Missoula isn't anywhere close to Happy Valley. I guess the article insulted my intelligence but there are people out there that ate that article up and hope the premise of her article comes true.

Objective journalism it isn't. Fair it isn't. She is employed by the Missoulian to write articles. If it passes the editorial desk and makes the paper then obviously someone is okay with it.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

I encourage people to send their concerns to the Missoulian in the form of a letter to the editor. Refrain from using insults and name calling and call them out on Journalistic integrity. Getting all huffy and puffy and calling reporters derogatory terms doesn't do any good.

I think Florio missed out on a big opportunity to write a strong and objective investigative reporting piece on the situation UM and Missoula is facing. Unfortunatly, she is letter her bias dictate what she is writing and is clearly looking to vilify people without seeing both sides. Truth is nobody knows what happened with the JJ situation or what exactly is going on behind the scenes and won't be taking anybody's side or making any accusations on what might of happened. Reporters with integrity shouldn't do that either.

I personally, find it astounding with as fine of a Journalism school that we have, that Missoula doesn't have a stronger newspaper. There really is no excuse for it. I've always like the GF Tribune. They do a great job of finding competent journalists.

 

[i do love the griz]

It's all the Missoulians fault :roll:

Piss poor "reporting" is most definitely the Missoulian's fault.

:clap:

 

[WILD_CAT]

It's all the Missoulians fault :roll:

Piss poor "reporting" is most definitely the Missoulian's fault.

The Missoulian (and Wall Street Journal) are some of the newspapers that helped bring a lot of this to light. So I would be happy they reported what they did (and if you had a daughter going to UM you probably would as well).

It is painful, but trust me you want all this to come out. The program will be better in the long run for it.

 

[mlbowl]

It's all the Missoulians fault :roll:

Piss poor "reporting" is most definitely the Missoulian's fault.

The Missoulian (and Wall Street Journal) are some of the newspapers that helped bring a lot of this to light. So I would be happy they reported what they did (and if you had a daughter going to UM you probably would as well).

It is painful, but trust me you want all this to come out. The program will be better in the long run for it.

Passing Florio's articles off as "reporting" is wrong and is indeed the Missoulian's fault. They are chock-full of opinion and bias with little factual content. They belong in the editorial or opinion section...not on the front page.

 

[i do love the griz]

It's all the Missoulians fault :roll:

Piss poor "reporting" is most definitely the Missoulian's fault.

The Missoulian (and Wall Street Journal) are some of the newspapers that helped bring a lot of this to light. So I would be happy they reported what they did (and if you had a daughter going to UM you probably would as well).

It is painful, but trust me you want all this to come out. The program will be better in the long run for it.

Most aren't upset that they reported the stories, just at the lack of fair objective reporting.

 

[SoCalGriz]

WC, it has nothing to do with having a daughter or a son and everything to do with truth...all the truth....truth on both sides and that is where gw stopped. She is smart enough to know what to leave out so to ensure the story could have some sensationalism, thus maybe go national which it obviously did. Now many people in the country have a misperception of how bad or not bad UM is in this area. I would bet we are no worse than better than half the universities in the country, yet the perception is we are one of the worst. gw has caused the state of Montana and UM a lot of bad press which in the end could cost huge $$ and IMO all in the interest of making sure she has a story on the front page vs. 2nd page of the paper.

Note: I am not saying there were no problems. Just like any successful program, there are always going to be problems with young men thinking more of themselves than they should. The success of Griz FB did have some of these kids thinking they were invincible.

 

['68griz]

It's all the Missoulians fault :roll:

Piss poor "reporting" is most definitely the Missoulian's fault.

The Missoulian (and Wall Street Journal) are some of the newspapers that helped bring a lot of this to light. So I would be happy they reported what they did (and if you had a daughter going to UM you probably would as well).

It is painful, but trust me you want all this to come out. The program will be better in the long run for it.

Passing Florio's articles off as "reporting" is wrong and is indeed the Missoulian's fault. They are chock-full of opinion and bias with little factual content. They belong in the editorial or opinion section...not on the front page.

+1

 

[Growler1]

I am a fairly consistent observer of this forum, but rarely if ever comment. I have seen and read enough to be compelled to make a recommendation.
The way we change things in this country is to take action.
In the case of the Football team, the Unviersity and all the possible open issues, I write to this forum not about the substance of these issues; that will ultimately unfold one way or the other.
Rather, I write about taking some type of action to send a signal to those that control the message, the media, that they must begin doing so in a more resposnsible and respectful way. What has taken decades of personal and institutional investment and sacrafice to build here, is now being chopped away one story at a time with biased, innaccurate and down right sensationalist journalism (if we can even call it that). I need not recount the errors, mistakes, bias, etc. there are many examples and most discussed on this forum, including loose discussion about a boycott.
My simple recommendation is this: Just do it! As we vote those who have not served the public interest out of office; all of us can do the same with our dollars and our voices.
Here is the plan:
1. Begin with the Missoulian
2. Start a drive for people to cancel their subscriptions and/or advertising and donate the money to the Griz or to whatever charity they desire.
3. For those like me that do not subscribe, each one of us can match your donation with our own as a tangible symbol of our support for the cause and message to irresponsbile media. This will pick up supporters nationwide.
4. Publicize the drive and when ready to announce the results, call a press conference. Of course the Missoulian will get the first invitation (what great irony for them to cover this stroy) and the TV media will likely love to film it too.
5. All communications about this drive should be about honoring the 1st Amendment and using our collective voice, focused on seeking more responsible reporting and journalism. The intent is not to chill free speech, but to seek responsibility when commercial speech is treading on the rights and reputations of indviduals and institutions who otherwise may not have the ability to speak out themsleves at that time.
I have noted the number of big talkers on this forum. Let's see if we can add action now. If so count me in.

ZZZZZZZZZZZ !

 

[Growler1]

It's all the Missoulians fault :roll:

Piss poor "reporting" is most definitely the Missoulian's fault.

The Missoulian (and Wall Street Journal) are some of the newspapers that helped bring a lot of this to light. So I would be happy they reported what they did (and if you had a daughter going to UM you probably would as well).

It is painful, but trust me you want all this to come out. The program will be better in the long run for it.

Most aren't upset that they reported the stories, just at the lack of fair objective reporting.

Please, show me any type of "news" media that gives fair and accurate reporting these days!

 

[i do love the griz]

Doesn't change the fact that it's complete bs reporting

 

[indian-outlaw]

So, start your own newspaper. Killing messenger is so, what?...anti American?

The adage of "don't kill the messenger" is (or should be) predicated on the messenger delievering the "truth" (yes the truth is sometimes a bit subjective). If in my business the messenger is spouting lies or distortions they would get fired. If Florio was fired, I'd think very few here would be seeking to cancel their subscriptions.

Yea, we want fair and balancewd like fox news. They report you decide. :lol:

 

[moose/squirrel]

So, start your own newspaper. Killing messenger is so, what?...anti American?

The adage of "don't kill the messenger" is (or should be) predicated on the messenger delievering the "truth" (yes the truth is sometimes a bit subjective). If in my business the messenger is spouting lies or distortions they would get fired. If Florio was fired, I'd think very few here would be seeking to cancel their subscriptions.

Yea, we want fair and balancewd like fox news. They report you decide. :lol:

Forget about MSNBC there, bucko. Anyone who swallows whole whatever any of these networks puts out there is a nitwit. You are trying to tell me Hannity is more FOS (he is) than Ed Schultz, Rachel or Chris who's leg tingles. Selective criticism is a hallmark of conwhacks or libwhacks. I can't take the narrow minded (look in the mirror) seriously. :roll:

 

[MTGriz87]

Please, show me any type of "news" media that gives fair and accurate reporting these days!

KPAX! Fair. Accurate. To the point.

 

[GrizMusician]

Please, show me any type of "news" media that gives fair and accurate reporting these days!

KPAX! Fair. Accurate. To the point.

:lol:

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2