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Face Mask Penalty on two point conversion

GottaluvGriz

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My son and I were discussing the two point conversion that was successful in Overtime for the Griz.
The referees said the face mask penalty committed against Bergen was declined because we scored on the 2 point try, however, any other time if a personal foul was committed during an offensive TD or extra point try, the penalty would be enforced on the ensuing play, typically the kick off.
Shouldn’t the penalty have been enforced on the ensuing play, in this case NDSU’s OT possession try and they should have started at the 40 yard line 1st and 10?
I googled this and found:
Penalties for personal fouls and unsportsmanlike conduct are enforced on the subsequent kickoff or the succeeding spot in extra periods.
Any thoughts or insights on this play? Thank God it didn’t matter!
Go Griz!
 
I don't have any knowledge on this but does it make a difference that the personal foul happened during the play as opposed to after? (so, half the distance to goal and retry if during and your situation if personal foul after the play?)
 
I believe that it is only if it’s a dead ball penalty. Same thing would have happened if it was pi and we converted. We get choice to decline it.
 
Correct. Had it been dead ball, it would have been enforced. But during the play, it does not carry over
 
Fouls During Or After A Touchdown, Field Goal Or Try—ARTICLE 5
Approved Ruling 10-2-5
Fouls during a touchdown or field goal by Team A:
I. During a touchdown run Team B clips in the field of play or the end zone. RULING: Team A has the option of the penalty being enforced on the try or the succeeding kickoff (Rule 10-2-5-a-1). II. Team B commits a personal foul during a down when Team A scores a touchdown, and then Team A fouls after the score and before the ready-for-play signal on the try. RULING: Allow the score. Team A has the option of enforcement on the try or the succeeding kickoff. Team B then also has the option of Team A being penalized on the try or the succeeding kickoff. The yardage assessed on the live-ball/dead-ball penalties may cancel (Rule 10-2-5). III. Team B holds during Team A’s touchdown run. Team A fouls after the score. RULING: Allow the score. The penalty for Team B’s holding foul is declined by rule. Team B has the option of Team A being penalized on the try or the succeeding kickoff (Rules 10-2-5- a-2 and 10-2-5-c). IV. A Team B player slugs an opponent during or after Team A’s touchdown run. Team B is offside on the successful try. RULING: Allow the touchdown. Disqualify the Team B player for fighting. Team A has the option of a penalty against Team B on the try or the succeeding kickoff. After the successful try, Team A has the option of repeating the try with the offside penalty enforced on the try (Rules 10-2-5 and 8-3-3-b). V. Team B roughs the passer during a touchdown pass play. RULING: Allow the touchdown. Team A has the option of enforcement on the try or the succeeding kickoff. VI. Team B is offside during a successful field goal down. RULING: Team A has the option to accept the penalty at the previous spot and replay the down or to keep the points by declining the penalty.

Fouls after a touchdown by Team A:

VII. Team A fouls after it scores a touchdown, and Team B fouls on the successful try. RULING: Allow the touchdown. Team B has the option of Team A being penalized on the try or the succeeding kickoff. Team A then has the option of Team B being penalized on a replay of the try. Team B personal-foul penalties may be enforced on the subsequent kickoff or at the succeeding spot in extra periods. Yardages assessed on the succeeding kickoff may cancel. VIII. Team A fouls after it scores a touchdown, and Team B fouls after a successful try. RULING: Allow the score. Team B has the option of Team A being penalized on the try or the succeeding kickoff. For the foul after the try, Team B is penalized on the kickoff or at the succeeding spot in extra periods.

Fouls during a try with no change of team possession (this does not include live- ball fouls treated as dead-ball fouls or loss-of-down fouls):

IX. Team B fouls during an unsuccessful try. RULING: Team B is penalized, and the try is repeated. The try is exempt from postscrimmage kick enforcement (Rule 10-2-3). X. Team B fouls during a successful try. RULING: Replay the down after enforcement, or the penalty is declined by rule. Penalties for personal fouls may be enforced on the succeeding kickoff or at the succeeding spot in extra periods (Rule 8-3-3-b-1). XI. During a successful kick try from the three-yard line, Team B is offside. After the ball is dead, Team B commits a personal foul. RULING: If Team A elects to replay the try, both penalties against Team B are enforced before the snap (Rule 10-1-6). If Team A declines the offside penalty and accepts the point, the penalty for Team B’s dead-ball foul is then enforced on the kickoff or at the succeeding spot in extra periods. (Rule 8-3-5) XII. During an unsuccessful kick try from the three-yard line, Team A commits an illegal-motion foul. After the ball becomes dead, Team B fouls. RULING: Team B obviously will refuse the penalty for the Team A foul. Team B is penalized on the kickoff or at the succeeding spot in extra periods.
 
Referee during game or the announcers said by rule during overtime penalty is declined.
I'm just assuming it was because the 2 point was successful, if not again an assumption
it would have been enforced.
 
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