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[Eriul]

Erioul: (UND has a slightly above Defense at best. They have the 5th worst pass D in the nation. Comparing their defense to NDSU is kinda laughable)
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This is a good example of just wholesale fabricating stats. At least I use real numbers.

UND is third in the Big Sky in scoring defense, first in total defense, and sixth in pass defense. That means 10, 12 and 7 teams in the Big Sky alone are worse in those categories.

http://www.bigskyconf.com/custompages/football/2014/stats/confldrs.htm

So, how can UND be fifth worst in the nation?

For the same reasons as the rest of your fabricated statistics. You made them up, and this is now the second time you have been caught at it.

Is there some reason you feel so strongly that you need to lie, just to prove a point?

http://www.bigskyconf.com/custompages/football/2014/stats/confldrs.htm

See the big 2014 in the link?

That's embarrassing for you

All of my stats were taken from
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs

or

http://gogriz.com/

It took me literally 20 min to produce all the stats I did.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/695/p3 this is the link more specifically for UND

I miscounted. They are the 6th worst pass defense

Please point out one of my statistics which is wrong...

Don't worry...I'll wait

 

[grizindabox]

So Simis is getting the start then. Coach wants to roll the dice..

nothing is for sure until Saturday...Simis is #1 today, but if Gus is ready....

 

[grizcountry420]

So Simis is getting the start then. Coach wants to roll the dice..

nothing is for sure until Saturday...Simis is #1 today, but if Gus is ready....

On KPAX at 10:30, they played a video of Stitt saying Simis was starting this weekend. I can't find the video clip.

 

[UMGriz75]

Erioul: (UND has a slightly above Defense at best. They have the 5th worst pass D in the nation. Comparing their defense to NDSU is kinda laughable)
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I miscounted. They are the 6th worst pass defense

Please point out one of my statistics which is wrong...

Don't worry...I'll wait

Well, like all stats, how they came into the season, and where they are now, several games later, are two different things.

The Bats on that weekend have considerably different stats than now. That's the part you don't get. What are the stats and how do they evolve?

UND had a terrific game "defending" against the powerhouse MSU offense, right? And kept PSU to 17 points and won the game, right? So your claims that they didn't really have a good defense is kind of laughable, isn't it?

And of course, UND really took a hit on their defensive game, and to their "stats" in their worst loss of the season ... at Montana, right?

When Makena Simis was the QB.

Right?

See how that works?

 

[grizindabox]

So Simis is getting the start then. Coach wants to roll the dice..

nothing is for sure until Saturday...Simis is #1 today, but if Gus is ready....

On KPAX at 10:30, they played a video of Stitt saying Simis was starting this weekend. I can't find the video clip.

Great...we will see how the stats look afterwards....

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Erioul: (UND has a slightly above Defense at best. They have the 5th worst pass D in the nation. Comparing their defense to NDSU is kinda laughable)
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I miscounted. They are the 6th worst pass defense

Please point out one of my statistics which is wrong...

Don't worry...I'll wait

Well, like all stats, how they came into the season, and where they are now, several games later, are two different things.

The Bats on that weekend have considerably different stats than now. That's the part you don't get. What are the stats and how do they evolve?

UND had a terrific game "defending" against the powerhouse MSU offense, right? And kept PSU to 17 points and won the game, right? So your claims that they didn't really have a good defense is kind of laughable, isn't it?

And of course, UND really took a hit on their defensive game, and to their "stats" in their worst loss of the season ... at Montana, right?

When Makena Simis was the QB.

Right?

See how that works?

What a fucking tool!

 

[yellowstone60]

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[Eriul]

Erioul: (UND has a slightly above Defense at best. They have the 5th worst pass D in the nation. Comparing their defense to NDSU is kinda laughable)
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I miscounted. They are the 6th worst pass defense

Please point out one of my statistics which is wrong...

Don't worry...I'll wait

Well, like all stats, how they came into the season, and where they are now, several games later, are two different things.

The Bats on that weekend have considerably different stats than now. That's the part you don't get. What are the stats and how do they evolve?

UND had a terrific game "defending" against the powerhouse MSU offense, right? And kept PSU to 17 points and won the game, right? So your claims that they didn't really have a good defense is kind of laughable, isn't it?

And of course, UND really took a hit on their defensive game, and to their "stats" in their worst loss of the season ... at Montana, right?

When Makena Simis was the QB.

Right?

See how that works?

If you take the Montana game out, UND's defense goes from the 6th worse to the 10th worst. Simis produced only 49 yards more than the UND average.

Those are numbers...

You are providing NO NUMBERS just skewed bs.

 

[UMGriz75]

What a f***[*] tool!

Review the game tape. Show where UND failed to properly cover the receivers. This is your big chance. :lol:

 

[BWahlberg]

The 17-0 lead was built up in the first 18-20 minutes of the game. Liberty drove the length of the field on the first possession pretty easily from what I remember. On the next drive, they beat the Griz saferty over the top for a big play. The first half defensive funk had nothing to do with being on the field too long.....

1st drive was about 5:30 and the next was just 10 seconds. Liberty had the ball only about 1:20 more than Montana in the first quarter.

"Being on the field most of the game" was a quote from Az not me. My point was the Griz were in a hole pretty early in that game while the defense was still fresh.....

Yeah I had too many quotes in and screwed up which ones to delete. Sorry

 

[Eriul]

What a f***[*] tool!

Review the game tape. Show where UND failed to properly cover the receivers. This is your big chance. :lol:

So now you want to analyze tape and ignore statistics?

Can't have it both ways

 

[UMGriz75]

If you take the Montana game out, UND's defense goes from the 6th worse to the 10th worst. Simis produced only 49 yards more than the UND average.

Those are numbers...

You are providing NO NUMBERS just skewed bs.

And Simis (and the Team) produced, in that nifty statistic, 22 more points than UND's average loss score of 20.

That is a very high scoring efficiency from just a 49 yard advantage.

I guess that's why Montana won that game by its highest score of the season, you know, because UND was first, fourth and sixth in the conference in defense, unless of course you remove the Montana game which, even though UND's biggest loss, would make UND's record the worst, because if you remove the biggest loss of any team, the remaining data will show an even worse defensive team.??!!?? WTF? :shock:

It's Common Core Math!

 

[UMGriz75]

What a f***[*] tool!

Review the game tape. Show where UND failed to properly cover the receivers. This is your big chance. :lol:

So now you want to analyze tape and ignore statistics?

Can't have it both ways

You are not an adult, are you?

The tape will confirm the data. It usually does. That's why we "do" data -- to confirm and explain what is happening in the real world. Apparently, in thinking they show different results, you don't actually understand the whole purpose of "data."

It's easier to view data, and to obtain objective information.

It's harder with people like you, who think they would be different because you don't know that one represents the other.

In this case, the coverage of our receivers by UND was very good. The receiving capabilities of our receivers was better. After he got going, the throws of our QB were nearly perfectly matched to the receivers in that game. You can see it.

Remarkably, the statistics show exactly that.

I'll be darned.

 

[Eriul]

If you take the Montana game out, UND's defense goes from the 6th worse to the 10th worst. Simis produced only 49 yards more than the UND average.

Those are numbers...

You are providing NO NUMBERS just skewed bs.

And Simis (and the Team) produced, in that nifty statistic, 22 more points than UND's average loss score of 20.

That is a very high scoring efficiency from just a 49 yard advantage.

I guess that's why Montana won that game by its highest score of the season, you know, because UND was first, fourth and sixth in the conference in defense, unless of course you remove the Montana game which, even though UND's biggest loss, would make UND's record the worst, because if you remove the biggest loss of any team, the remaining data will show an even worse defensive team.

It's Common Core Math!

I can't understand what you're saying but I am the only one to bring math into this conversation. And I think it hilarious that you think I am incapable of common math when you're using the statistics page from last year.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

What a f***[*] tool!

Review the game tape. Show where UND failed to properly cover the receivers. This is your big chance. :lol:

Do you actually know anything about defensive game planning? PSU and ISU learned from the man-to-man mistakes of UND.

I don't think you have shared anything of actual substance about the actual on field nuances of the game. It seems you just like to spew the same numbers that back your little shtick. I have seen numerous posters point out your flaws, yet you are to arrogant or thick skulled to actually evaluate actual game play. Would you like to share anything other than stats?

 

[Eriul]

What a f***[*] tool!

Review the game tape. Show where UND failed to properly cover the receivers. This is your big chance. :lol:

So now you want to analyze tape and ignore statistics?

Can't have it both ways

You are not an adult, are you?

The tape will confirm the data. It usually does. That's why we "do" data -- to confirm and explain what is happening in the real world. Apparently, in thinking they show different results, you don't actually understand the whole purpose of "data."

It's easier to view data, and to obtain objective information.

It's harder with people like you, who think they would be different because you don't know that one represents the other.

In this case, the coverage of our receivers by UND was very good. The receiving capabilities of our receivers was better. After he got going, the throws of our QB were nearly perfectly matched to the receivers in that game. You can see it.

Remarkably, the statistics show exactly that.

I'll be darned.

I proved all of "your statistics" wrong.

I'm waiting for your counter from a stats standpoint. Because if you want to play the eye test, you are in the vast minority of thinking simis is good at running our offense.

 

[Eriul]

What a f***[*] tool!

Review the game tape. Show where UND failed to properly cover the receivers. This is your big chance. :lol:

Do you actually know anything about defensive game planning? PSU and ISU learned from the man-to-man mistakes of UND.

I don't think you have shared anything of actual substance about the actual on field nuances of the game. It seems you just like to spew the same numbers that back your little shtick. I have seen numerous posters point out your flaws, yet you are to arrogant or thick skulled to actually evaluate actual game play. Would you like to share anything other than stats?

He was all about sharing statistics until I proved them wrong. Now he says, "Watch the tape against a top 10 worst defense. We torched 'em!"

 

[UMGriz75]

I can't understand what you're saying but I am the only one to bring math into this conversation. And I think it hilarious that you think I am incapable of common math when you're using the statistics page from last year.

That's how they started the season. You are now looking at season average stats toward the end of the season across all opponents, not conference opponents, and trying to pretend that UND, which beat PSU, Weber and MSU by keeping them to uncharacteristically low scores -- presumably using that "defense" thingy -- was not a good defensive team because, for some reason, you think it is important to your life. Indeed, given the quality of the opponents it walloped IN THE CONFERENCE, UND remains a top defensive team, but for the walloping it received, in turn, from ... Montana, which really skews its data.

And, viola', why does Montana skew its data so badly?

And who was the QB (Team) who would have such a dramatic effect on another team's stats?

 

[UMGriz75]

I don't think you have shared anything of actual substance about the actual on field nuances of the game. It seems you just like to spew the same numbers that back your little shtick.

Ah, the "field nuances." I like the phrase. It explains everything. Right? Like the ones that keep Brady at a 33% third down conversion rate. Go tell Stitt. Quickly. It's just "field nuances."

 

[Eriul]

If you take the Montana game out, UND's defense goes from the 6th worse to the 10th worst. Simis produced only 49 yards more than the UND average.

Those are numbers...

You are providing NO NUMBERS just skewed bs.

, because if you remove the biggest loss of any team, the remaining data will show an even worse defensive team.

It's Common Core Math!

So let me try and understand what you're saying....

If you remove the biggest loss, the remaining data by your argument of "math" would say that their defensive numbers would be worse?

Because if I understand what you're saying...it's actually the opposite.

If you average 20 points a game over 10 games and then score 50 in the next one your average then jumps to ~23.

If you eliminate the game against us, ND's defense averages 269 passing yards allowed per game. That average would be good enough for 10th worst in the FCS.

I'll show you the math just to prove it! Because obviously numbers are hard for you. This is some high level shit so break out your calculus book if you don't get it.

ND(t) - ND(Griz) = ND(t-Griz)
ND(t-Griz)/(Total games - 1) = ND(Average neglecting griz game)

You use that...(basic algebra) and you will find my numbers to be correct.

And now you're bringing up NDSU which passed for below the amount ND usually allows. So if you take out the NDSU game as well as the Montana game(as you so stated in your other post) you will get the same number (269 passing yards allowed/game) which is again good enough for 10th worst in FCS.