EWU AD...no extra seats .....smh

[EWURanger29]

Your argument would make sense if it were not for the fact that the majority of ticket revenue during the playoffs goes to the NCAA, and not the schools playing in the games. Square-peg, round-hole.

UM and EWU give the same allotment to one another every year for games played in their respective stadiums. Are you suggesting Montana fans are somehow entitled to more than that? If so, why?

I've heard these gripes for a while now and I'm not really sure I understand the premise of the argument.

If the "majority" of the revenue goes to the ncaa then why double the price of the tickets for Griz fans? Why not keep the price the same if as you say most is not going to you guys anyways?
Why extend the sales to keep us away and push the local businesses to take up the slack for your fans?
And as another mentioned do you realize just how much money they Fcked the local economy out of? I will be there for two days and nights along with 13 others. Just think how much that is in hotels, food, gas and since it is Christmas the amount people would have spent shopping. Very short sighted and PETTY just to be able to make a point. :roll:

I agree that bringing in additional seats would have been been benefical; if for nothing else the local economy. My point, which was largely a response to CDA's "subsidies" nonsense, was that schools don't make a lot of money off of ticket revenue in the playoffs - the majority of it goes to the NCAA. The $$$ guarantee is why certain 8-4 teams are generally able to get home playoff games over others - the NCAA likes the additional revenue. I read the same argument on this site very frequently; and it is a good argument.

The only real thing I take issue with in your post is the "doubling" the price for Griz fan comment. This seems to be another infamous Egriz myth. Tickets were made available at a reduced cost to season ticket holders (as they should be) up until the 1st of December, at which point they they were made available to the general public. There has to be a way to prioritize tickets for a game like this, and I think it makes perfect sense to reward folks who have made an investment in the program throughout the season. There is nothing unethical, illegal, or immoral about it. You paid the same price as anyone else who's not a season ticket holder.

But thanks for confirming my suspicions that these gripes have very little to do with anything other than a little bit of entitlement syndrome amongst some of the Montana faitful.

Here's a rhetorical question for you: Does everyone pay the same price for a playoff game in Missoula?

Bear in mind I already know the answer.

Why should season ticket holders get a reduced price for playoff tickets? Just curious. I can see season ticket holders being given first priority for tickets, but I don't see the logic for giving season tickets holders a discounted price.

That is a valid question, and one that I don't have a definitive answer for. I do know that the only real way to get guaranteed tickets for regular season games these days is to become a season ticket holder, so part of the motivation behind the decision may be to increase that number even more. Eastern will need to sustain regular season crowds of over 10,000 to gain additional traction for stadium expansion, and increasing season ticket holders is probably part of that strategy.

 

[grizatwork]

It is what it is. It seems real short sighted to me. I don't think you would lose your home field advantage by having more griz fans there. I think it helps with exposure and would actually create a better environment for the game and help overall with FCS exposure on ESPN. What I find really short sighted in it however is that you wouldn't want a few thousand extra out of state fans coming into your community and spending money locally and rewarding your local businesses that probably sponsor some of the university events. I would be more insulted if I owned a local restaurant or hotel than I would be if I were a griz fan. It is their prerogative to do this, but it doesn't make sense.

 

[Great Day To Be An Eagle]

Good god. SHUT UP.

If y'all are that worried about the economy of Spokane, write a fucking check to the business bureau or come do your christmas shopping here.

This is so fucking annoying.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

You know what is funny? People actually want to believe that the FCS playoffs is about money for each school, and it is but not in the way you people are posting about. All each school hopes to do is break even on the game day experience. What they want to do is bank on the exposure of getting on the family of ESPN channels and play for a National Championship. They will then bang on that drum all day when recruiting new students. This is why EWU had no interest in bringing in temp seats. This is why they sold tickets to boosters for $20ish. It is about giving them the best situation to progress, the best homefield advantage.


And by the way, thanks for getting me to dip my toe into this cesspool of a thread.

 

[mtgriz]

One thing I have always admired about EWU's football team is their ability to play the Griz tough in Missoula. This goes way back. I will never forget the 92 Homecoming game. The Griz led by 17 or so with under 10 minutes left and EWU rallied to win the game.

The point being, if anything, having more fans at the game, even if Griz fans, should more than likely help the Eagles play better.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Stealing from Hawkeye Pierce, they have yet to invent the instrument sensitive enough to measure my indifference to this thread.

 

[grizatwork]

Good god. SHUT UP.

If y'all are that worried about the economy of Spokane, write a f***[*] check to the business bureau or come do your christmas shopping here.

This is so f***[*] annoying.

Wow. I don't care one way or the other. I wouldn't go regardless due to other obligations, but I was just giving my opinion on why I think it is short sighted. Home games make a lot of money for local businesses. Some of which make it's way to the University in donations and advertising. That was my thought on it. Merry Christmas GDTBAE. Just for future reference, if you find it so annoying, you don't have to get on your computer, log on to a message board, open a thread, read it, and then respond. Save yourself the agony if it is so traumatic for you.

 

[Fahque]

And that's why there's gonna be a lot of tickets for sale at the game and lots of empty seats. They bought as many tickets as they could even though they didn't have anyone to use that ticket. They hoped they could sell them for $200 since it sold out. Tickets are getting cheaper on Craigslist every day. Saw one for $50 today.

Here's some for $20

http://spokane.craigslist.org/tix/4791471322.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you like the beautiful Montana Cheerleaders, and want to be close to the action, these are the seats for you...

:lol:

 

[mtgriz]

Good god. SHUT UP.

If y'all are that worried about the economy of Spokane, write a f***[*] check to the business bureau or come do your christmas shopping here.

This is so f***[*] annoying.

Wow. I don't care one way or the other. I wouldn't go regardless due to other obligations, but I was just giving my opinion on why I think it is short sighted. Home games make a lot of money for local businesses. Some of which make it's way to the University in donations and advertising. That was my thought on it. Merry Christmas GDTBAE. Just for future reference, if you find it so annoying, you don't have to get on your computer, log on to a message board, open a thread, read it, and then respond. Save yourself the agony if it is so traumatic for you.

This. When my wife and daughter tune in the Kardashians, I just leave the room.

 

[EverettGriz]

And that's why there's gonna be a lot of tickets for sale at the game and lots of empty seats. They bought as many tickets as they could even though they didn't have anyone to use that ticket. They hoped they could sell them for $200 since it sold out. Tickets are getting cheaper on Craigslist every day. Saw one for $50 today.

Here's some for $20

http://spokane.craigslist.org/tix/4791471322.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you like the beautiful Montana Cheerleaders, and want to be close to the action, these are the seats for you...

:lol:

Or less than $20!

so make me an offer

:lol:

 

[grizatwork]

And that's why there's gonna be a lot of tickets for sale at the game and lots of empty seats. They bought as many tickets as they could even though they didn't have anyone to use that ticket. They hoped they could sell them for $200 since it sold out. Tickets are getting cheaper on Craigslist every day. Saw one for $50 today.

Here's some for $20

http://spokane.craigslist.org/tix/4791471322.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you like the beautiful Montana Cheerleaders, and want to be close to the action, these are the seats for you...

:lol:

Or less than $20!

so make me an offer

:lol:

Interesting. Out of curiosity I was on Stub Hub on a couple of days ago and someone was trying to sell them for between 250 and 600 dollars. Crazy.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Less surprised by this than Box's sentiments. For the last time, It's not about EWU's actual prerogative to do this. Nobody debates that they have the option. It's about the fact that they are foregoing a shit ton of money to prevent Griz fans' attendance. For a program subsidized by nearly three quarters taxpayer money, it's very strange. They basically said "we would rather rob some more wages than pull in some bleachers out at a clip far less than the marginal revenue we and the local businesses would realize." Dumb. Period. Full stop.

Your argument would make sense if it were not for the fact that the majority of ticket revenue during the playoffs goes to the NCAA, and not the schools playing in the games. Square-peg, round-hole.

UM and EWU give the same allotment to one another every year for games played in their respective stadiums. Are you suggesting Montana fans are somehow entitled to more than that? If so, why?

I've heard these gripes for a while now and I'm not really sure I understand the premise of the argument.

If the "majority" of the revenue goes to the ncaa then why double the price of the tickets for Griz fans? Why not keep the price the same if as you say most is not going to you guys anyways?
Why extend the sales to keep us away and push the local businesses to take up the slack for your fans?
And as another mentioned do you realize just how much money they Fcked the local economy out of? I will be there for two days and nights along with 13 others. Just think how much that is in hotels, food, gas and since it is Christmas the amount people would have spent shopping. Very short sighted and PETTY just to be able to make a point. :roll:

I agree that bringing in additional seats would have been been benefical; if for nothing else the local economy. My point, which was largely a response to CDA's "subsidies" nonsense, was that schools don't make a lot of money off of ticket revenue in the playoffs - the majority of it goes to the NCAA. The $$$ guarantee is why certain 8-4 teams are generally able to get home playoff games over others - the NCAA likes the additional revenue. I read the same argument on this site very frequently; and it is a good argument.

The only real thing I take issue with in your post is the "doubling" the price for Griz fan comment. This seems to be another infamous Egriz myth. Tickets were made available at a reduced cost to season ticket holders (as they should be) up until the 1st of December, at which point they they were made available to the general public. There has to be a way to prioritize tickets for a game like this, and I think it makes perfect sense to reward folks who have made an investment in the program throughout the season. There is nothing unethical, illegal, or immoral about it. You paid the same price as anyone else who's not a season ticket holder.

But thanks for confirming my suspicions that these gripes have very little to do with anything other than a little bit of entitlement syndrome amongst some of the Montana faitful.

Here's a rhetorical question for you: Does everyone pay the same price for a playoff game in Missoula?

Bear in mind I already know the answer.

How is saying taxpayers subsidize the majority of EWU's football program "nonsense?"

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Good god. SHUT UP.

If y'all are that worried about the economy of Spokane, write a fucking check to the business bureau or come do your christmas shopping here.

This is so fucking annoying.

Why are you here?

 

[mtgrizrule]

I don't like this anymore than anyone else. With that said, they earned the right to host. If they catered to us or any other fan base, that gradually diminishes the home field advantage. Yes they are sacrificing some extra profit doing it as they are. However, they are increasing their chances of winning, which for them means another playoff game at home.

Plus, maybe their AD is regaining some advantage they lost when the GRIZ made sure Baldwin's name was made public to be a candidate for our new coach. That took away from their preparation and mind set of their players, coaches, and fans. Hell even if we knew our chances at landing Baldwin were slim, it was smart of the GRIZ to do it. It is also smart of EWU doing what they are doing with the seating.

Now, back to the game...........whoever wins, I hope represent the Big Sky all the way to Frisco this season. Good luck EWU, and GO GRIZ!!!!!!!

 

[Griz Voice of Reason]

I don't like this anymore than anyone else. With that said, they earned the right to host. If they catered to us or any other fan base, that gradually diminishes the home field advantage. Yes they are sacrificing some extra profit doing it as they are. However, they are increasing their chances of winning, which for them means another playoff game at home.

Plus, maybe their AD is regaining some advantage they lost when the GRIZ made sure Baldwin's name was made public to be a candidate for our new coach. That took away from their preparation and mind set of their players, coaches, and fans. Hell even if we knew our chances at landing Baldwin were slim, it was smart of the GRIZ to do it. It is also smart of EWU doing what they are doing with the seating.

Now, back to the game...........whoever wins, I hope represent the Big Sky all the way to Frisco this season. Good luck EWU, and GO GRIZ!!!!!!!

Excellent points. Rational too. Who knew?

 

[Washgrizfan1]

I don't like this anymore than anyone else. With that said, they earned the right to host. If they catered to us or any other fan base, that gradually diminishes the home field advantage. Yes they are sacrificing some extra profit doing it as they are. However, they are increasing their chances of winning, which for them means another playoff game at home.

Plus, maybe their AD is regaining some advantage they lost when the GRIZ made sure Baldwin's name was made public to be a candidate for our new coach. That took away from their preparation and mind set of their players, coaches, and fans. Hell even if we knew our chances at landing Baldwin were slim, it was smart of the GRIZ to do it. It is also smart of EWU doing what they are doing with the seating.

Now, back to the game...........whoever wins, I hope represent the Big Sky all the way to Frisco this season. Good luck EWU, and GO GRIZ!!!!!!!

I don't disagree with you on most of your post (in fact I agree), but this doesn't mean that Griz fans have to agree with the EWU decision or can't or shouldn't criticize it. This is what is done on athletic message boards and the internet. I know that you, as opposed to several others, have not suggested that this should not be a topic for discussion.

 

[marceagfan5]

I don't like this anymore than anyone else. With that said, they earned the right to host. If they catered to us or any other fan base, that gradually diminishes the home field advantage. Yes they are sacrificing some extra profit doing it as they are. However, they are increasing their chances of winning, which for them means another playoff game at home.

Plus, maybe their AD is regaining some advantage they lost when the GRIZ made sure Baldwin's name was made public to be a candidate for our new coach. That took away from their preparation and mind set of their players, coaches, and fans. Hell even if we knew our chances at landing Baldwin were slim, it was smart of the GRIZ to do it. It is also smart of EWU doing what they are doing with the seating.

Now, back to the game...........whoever wins, I hope represent the Big Sky all the way to Frisco this season. Good luck EWU, and GO GRIZ!!!!!!!

Good Post.

You making the trip over?

 

[grizatwork]

I don't like this anymore than anyone else. With that said, they earned the right to host. If they catered to us or any other fan base, that gradually diminishes the home field advantage. Yes they are sacrificing some extra profit doing it as they are. However, they are increasing their chances of winning, which for them means another playoff game at home.

Plus, maybe their AD is regaining some advantage they lost when the GRIZ made sure Baldwin's name was made public to be a candidate for our new coach. That took away from their preparation and mind set of their players, coaches, and fans. Hell even if we knew our chances at landing Baldwin were slim, it was smart of the GRIZ to do it. It is also smart of EWU doing what they are doing with the seating.

Now, back to the game...........whoever wins, I hope represent the Big Sky all the way to Frisco this season. Good luck EWU, and GO GRIZ!!!!!!!

Did anyone in the University say that Baldwin was a candidate or was that just the Missoulian and message board rumor? I have not seen anything from anyone that matters that said he is a candidate. Other than that, EWU is free to do what they want as long as they follow the NCAA guidelines. Truly much ado about nothing.

 

[Fahque]

I don't like this anymore than anyone else. With that said, they earned the right to host. If they catered to us or any other fan base, that gradually diminishes the home field advantage. Yes they are sacrificing some extra profit doing it as they are. However, they are increasing their chances of winning, which for them means another playoff game at home.

Plus, maybe their AD is regaining some advantage they lost when the GRIZ made sure Baldwin's name was made public to be a candidate for our new coach. That took away from their preparation and mind set of their players, coaches, and fans. Hell even if we knew our chances at landing Baldwin were slim, it was smart of the GRIZ to do it. It is also smart of EWU doing what they are doing with the seating.

Now, back to the game...........whoever wins, I hope represent the Big Sky all the way to Frisco this season. Good luck EWU, and GO GRIZ!!!!!!!

Did anyone in the University say that Baldwin was a candidate or was that just the Missoulian and message board rumor? I have not seen anything from anyone that matters that said he is a candidate. Other than that, EWU is free to do what they want as long as they follow the NCAA guidelines. Truly much ado about nothing.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0-KZS1dDyw[/youtube]

 

[EverettGriz]

Did anyone in the University say that Baldwin was a candidate

No.