EWU AD...no extra seats .....smh

[polsongrizz]

And that's why there's gonna be a lot of tickets for sale at the game and lots of empty seats. They bought as many tickets as they could even though they didn't have anyone to use that ticket. They hoped they could sell them for $200 since it sold out. Tickets are getting cheaper on Craigslist every day. Saw one for $50 today.

Agreed, I know for a fact that they hassled local businesses into buying as many as they could force onto them. My daughters friend said that they had as many tickets as one wanted at their place. We picked up over a dozen from them. I wish I would have bought them all. Their fan base was anemic as usual going into this game.
BTW, I flag every ticket that is trying to gouge fans on CL. :thumb:

 

[EWURanger29]

I have zero problem with this. Their choice to bring in extra stands or not. If we want to avoid this in the future, the answer is pretty simple, we need to be a higher seed than EWU. If we win more games in the regular season than they do, we wouldn't face this issue. In the meantime we should stop bitching.

Less surprised by this than Box's sentiments. For the last time, It's not about EWU's actual prerogative to do this. Nobody debates that they have the option. It's about the fact that they are foregoing a shit ton of money to prevent Griz fans' attendance. For a program subsidized by nearly three quarters taxpayer money, it's very strange. They basically said "we would rather rob some more wages than pull in some bleachers out at a clip far less than the marginal revenue we and the local businesses would realize." Dumb. Period. Full stop.

Your argument would make sense if it were not for the fact that the majority of ticket revenue during the playoffs goes to the NCAA, and not the schools playing in the games. Square-peg, round-hole.

UM and EWU give the same allotment to one another every year for games played in their respective stadiums. Are you suggesting Montana fans are somehow entitled to more than that? If so, why?

I've heard these gripes for a while now and I'm not really sure I understand the premise of the argument.

 

[EWURanger29]

I think it's fair to say that Foolerton over-estimated your "program" when he invited you into the conference.

Fullerton was not the Big Sky Comish in 1987. He didn't get the gig until 1995. Are you able to get just one piece of factual information correct?

 

[polsongrizz]

I have zero problem with this. Their choice to bring in extra stands or not. If we want to avoid this in the future, the answer is pretty simple, we need to be a higher seed than EWU. If we win more games in the regular season than they do, we wouldn't face this issue. In the meantime we should stop bitching.

Less surprised by this than Box's sentiments. For the last time, It's not about EWU's actual prerogative to do this. Nobody debates that they have the option. It's about the fact that they are foregoing a shit ton of money to prevent Griz fans' attendance. For a program subsidized by nearly three quarters taxpayer money, it's very strange. They basically said "we would rather rob some more wages than pull in some bleachers out at a clip far less than the marginal revenue we and the local businesses would realize." Dumb. Period. Full stop.

Your argument would make sense if it were not for the fact that the majority of ticket revenue during the playoffs goes to the NCAA, and not the schools playing in the games. Square-peg, round-hole.

UM and EWU give the same allotment to one another every year for games played in their respective stadiums. Are you suggesting Montana fans are somehow entitled to more than that? If so, why?

I've heard these gripes for a while now and I'm not really sure I understand the premise of the argument.

If the "majority" of the revenue goes to the ncaa then why double the price of the tickets for Griz fans? Why not keep the price the same if as you say most is not going to you guys anyways?
Why extend the sales to keep us away and push the local businesses to take up the slack for your fans?
And as another mentioned do you realize just how much money they Fcked the local economy out of? I will be there for two days and nights along with 13 others. Just think how much that is in hotels, food, gas and since it is Christmas the amount people would have spent shopping. Very short sighted and PETTY just to be able to make a point. :roll:

 

[FormerEag]

I did. And the fact that you question whether 3,000 extra people from out of town attending the game would be beneficial for the community is kind of unbecoming. Is yours a serious post?

Well I think this is the first time I have heard an egriz poster exaggerate the size of EWU's stadium.

Maybe you should read the thread. Your AD made it happen multiple times in the past. Not doing it now and then lying about the reasons why is supremely an EWU move. No big deal. EWU can do what it wants. But the disregard for having extra attendees, and the attendant benefit to the community, is something that boggles the mind of one who realizes who funds the program. That's all.

I suggest you start a petition. Isn't that what griz fans do when they get their noses a little bent out of shape?

That or threaten legal action.

 

[PlayerRep]

A seeded team only has to bid the minimum, but since bids are submitted weeks prior to the seeding and brackets most bid more. How many teams that hosted in week 1 or will host in week 2 do you believe submitted a minimum host bid with games left to play?

It's set up so that seeded teams only are held to the minimum bid. It doesn't work the way you suggested. "If we are seeded, we hereby submit the minimum bid for each round."

 

[zengriz]

...didn't read this thread...
...didn't waste my time...
...one way to handle it...
...put it all on the field...
...smackm" in the mouth...

... :clap: :clap: :clap: ...

 

[Htowngriz]

...didn't read this thread...
...didn't waste my time...
...one way to handle it...
...put it all on the field...
...smackm" in the mouth...

... :clap: :clap: :clap: ...

Yeah this

 

[nzone]

...didn't read this thread...
...didn't waste my time...
...one way to handle it...
...put it all on the field...
...smackm" in the mouth...

... :clap: :clap: :clap: ...

This!

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

Isn't it true that Griz fans accounted for half of EWOO's playoff attendance when UM wasn't in the playoffs?

Fine way for them to say thanks for the support in the past.

 

[PlayerRep]

I have zero problem with this. Their choice to bring in extra stands or not. If we want to avoid this in the future, the answer is pretty simple, we need to be a higher seed than EWU. If we win more games in the regular season than they do, we wouldn't face this issue. In the meantime we should stop bitching.

You remind me a grizindabox. I'm not sure if I've ever read a post from you that I agreed with. No one questions EWU's right to do what they've done. That's not the discussion. The discussion is whether they "should" have done this. Everyone knows that the a higher seed gets to host. UM is not seeded. The facts are what they are. Many of us believe the EWU decision is bush league. You disagree. That's your right. I disagree with you. That's my right. This is the internet. It's built for discussions like this.

 

[EWURanger29]

I have zero problem with this. Their choice to bring in extra stands or not. If we want to avoid this in the future, the answer is pretty simple, we need to be a higher seed than EWU. If we win more games in the regular season than they do, we wouldn't face this issue. In the meantime we should stop bitching.

Less surprised by this than Box's sentiments. For the last time, It's not about EWU's actual prerogative to do this. Nobody debates that they have the option. It's about the fact that they are foregoing a shit ton of money to prevent Griz fans' attendance. For a program subsidized by nearly three quarters taxpayer money, it's very strange. They basically said "we would rather rob some more wages than pull in some bleachers out at a clip far less than the marginal revenue we and the local businesses would realize." Dumb. Period. Full stop.

Your argument would make sense if it were not for the fact that the majority of ticket revenue during the playoffs goes to the NCAA, and not the schools playing in the games. Square-peg, round-hole.

UM and EWU give the same allotment to one another every year for games played in their respective stadiums. Are you suggesting Montana fans are somehow entitled to more than that? If so, why?

I've heard these gripes for a while now and I'm not really sure I understand the premise of the argument.

If the "majority" of the revenue goes to the ncaa then why double the price of the tickets for Griz fans? Why not keep the price the same if as you say most is not going to you guys anyways?
Why extend the sales to keep us away and push the local businesses to take up the slack for your fans?
And as another mentioned do you realize just how much money they Fcked the local economy out of? I will be there for two days and nights along with 13 others. Just think how much that is in hotels, food, gas and since it is Christmas the amount people would have spent shopping. Very short sighted and PETTY just to be able to make a point. :roll:

I agree that bringing in additional seats would have been been benefical; if for nothing else the local economy. My point, which was largely a response to CDA's "subsidies" nonsense, was that schools don't make a lot of money off of ticket revenue in the playoffs - the majority of it goes to the NCAA. The $$$ guarantee is why certain 8-4 teams are generally able to get home playoff games over others - the NCAA likes the additional revenue. I read the same argument on this site very frequently; and it is a good argument.

The only real thing I take issue with in your post is the "doubling" the price for Griz fan comment. This seems to be another infamous Egriz myth. Tickets were made available at a reduced cost to season ticket holders (as they should be) up until the 1st of December, at which point they they were made available to the general public. There has to be a way to prioritize tickets for a game like this, and I think it makes perfect sense to reward folks who have made an investment in the program throughout the season. There is nothing unethical, illegal, or immoral about it. You paid the same price as anyone else who's not a season ticket holder.

But thanks for confirming my suspicions that these gripes have very little to do with anything other than a little bit of entitlement syndrome amongst some of the Montana faitful.

Here's a rhetorical question for you: Does everyone pay the same price for a playoff game in Missoula?

Bear in mind I already know the answer.

 

[EWURanger29]

Isn't it true that Griz fans accounted for half of EWOO's playoff attendance when UM wasn't in the playoffs?

Fine way for them to say thanks for the support in the past.

No, it is not true. Not even remotely true. But nice try there guy.

 

[Great Day To Be An Eagle]

So let me get this straight.

After reading (scanning) several hundred posts over the last few days from egrizzers bitching every way possible about EWU and Roos Field, I'm now seeing that at the end of the day, you really aren't pissed, you're more confused and disappointed that EWU would give up a chance to make more money. Your frustrations and anger and pettiness and cry baby attitudes and irrational bitching have been distilled in to concrete fiscal concerns for EWU. If I'm right, I'm going to set up a Kickstarter campaign to raise money for EWU to build a stadium to rival y'alls, and I expect all of you to contribute. I mean I've read on here many times how UM is a superior school and produces superior humans who are far more successful than EWU grads, so clearly all of you who have all the time in the world to sit on eGriz for fours on end complaining about a footballs stadium must all be stay at home self made millionaires. So when I create this campaign, I expect all of you to contribute. And do so handsomely. Thank you for your fiscal concerns for EWU. I'm sure the university never would have thought about trying to make money to support and grow the program if it weren't for the big brains here on eGriz

 

[polsongrizz]

Isn't it true that Griz fans accounted for half of EWOO's playoff attendance when UM wasn't in the playoffs?

Fine way for them to say thanks for the support in the past.

I don't know the numbers but we were there for all of their home playoff games...

 

[EWURanger29]

I have zero problem with this. Their choice to bring in extra stands or not. If we want to avoid this in the future, the answer is pretty simple, we need to be a higher seed than EWU. If we win more games in the regular season than they do, we wouldn't face this issue. In the meantime we should stop bitching.

You remind me a grizindabox. I'm not sure if I've ever read a post from you that I agreed with. No one questions EWU's right to do what they've done. That's not the discussion. The discussion is whether they "should" have done this. Everyone knows that the a higher seed gets to host. UM is not seeded. The facts are what they are. Many of us believe the EWU decision is bush league. You disagree. That's your right. I disagree with you. That's my right. This is the internet. It's built for discussions like this.

It's not suprising me in the least that you don't "get" it.

 

[PlayerRep]

Less surprised by this than Box's sentiments. For the last time, It's not about EWU's actual prerogative to do this. Nobody debates that they have the option. It's about the fact that they are foregoing a shit ton of money to prevent Griz fans' attendance. For a program subsidized by nearly three quarters taxpayer money, it's very strange. They basically said "we would rather rob some more wages than pull in some bleachers out at a clip far less than the marginal revenue we and the local businesses would realize." Dumb. Period. Full stop.

Your argument would make sense if it were not for the fact that the majority of ticket revenue during the playoffs goes to the NCAA, and not the schools playing in the games. Square-peg, round-hole.

UM and EWU give the same allotment to one another every year for games played in their respective stadiums. Are you suggesting Montana fans are somehow entitled to more than that? If so, why?

I've heard these gripes for a while now and I'm not really sure I understand the premise of the argument.

If the "majority" of the revenue goes to the ncaa then why double the price of the tickets for Griz fans? Why not keep the price the same if as you say most is not going to you guys anyways?
Why extend the sales to keep us away and push the local businesses to take up the slack for your fans?
And as another mentioned do you realize just how much money they Fcked the local economy out of? I will be there for two days and nights along with 13 others. Just think how much that is in hotels, food, gas and since it is Christmas the amount people would have spent shopping. Very short sighted and PETTY just to be able to make a point. :roll:

I agree that bringing in additional seats would have been been benefical; if for nothing else the local economy. My point, which was largely a response to CDA's "subsidies" nonsense, was that schools don't make a lot of money off of ticket revenue in the playoffs - the majority of it goes to the NCAA. The $$$ guarantee is why certain 8-4 teams are generally able to get home playoff games over others - the NCAA likes the additional revenue. I read the same argument on this site very frequently; and it is a good argument.

The only real thing I take issue with in your post is the "doubling" the price for Griz fan comment. This seems to be another infamous Egriz myth. Tickets were made available at a reduced cost to season ticket holders (as they should be) up until the 1st of December, at which point they they were made available to the general public. There has to be a way to prioritize tickets for a game like this, and I think it makes perfect sense to reward folks who have made an investment in the program throughout the season. There is nothing unethical, illegal, or immoral about it. You paid the same price as anyone else who's not a season ticket holder.

But thanks for confirming my suspicions that these gripes have very little to do with anything other than a little bit of entitlement syndrome amongst some of the Montana faitful.

Here's a rhetorical question for you: Does everyone pay the same price for a playoff game in Missoula?

Bear in mind I already know the answer.

Why should season ticket holders get a reduced price for playoff tickets? Just curious. I can see season ticket holders being given first priority for tickets, but I don't see the logic for giving season tickets holders a discounted price. The ncaa must permit it, as EWU did it, but I would think the ncaa might have interest in the subject. Also, I would think the ncaa would have interest in a school intentionally keeping the size of the crowd down and may want to have a discussion with EWU. The ncaa has an interest in increasing its playoff revenue.

Yes, all non-students pay the same playoff ticket prices at UM, to my knowledge.

 

[Griz Voice of Reason]

This thread is comical. We sound like a bunch of entitled babies. It is embarrassing. The simple solution is win. If we had won more games we wouldn't be in this situation. To the victor goes the spoils. I don't give a f@&k what EWU does or doesn't do. They have earned the right and we have not. Now go back upstairs your mom has your grilled cheese done withot the crust just the way you like it.

 

[grizpack]

This thread is comical. We sound like a bunch of entitled babies. It is embarrassing. The simple solution is win. If we had won more games we wouldn't be in this situation. To the victor goes the spoils. I don't give a f@&k what EWU does or doesn't do. They have earned the right and we have not. Now go back upstairs your mom has your grilled cheese done withot the crust just the way you like it.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[get'em_griz]

This thread is comical. We sound like a bunch of entitled babies. It is embarrassing. The simple solution is win. If we had won more games we wouldn't be in this situation. To the victor goes the spoils. I don't give a f@&k what EWU does or doesn't do. They have earned the right and we have not. Now go back upstairs your mom has your grilled cheese done withot the crust just the way you like it.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

8,000 posts! :shock: :clap: