Especially since it ending up costing us .5 seconds (which was the correct call)
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MBBALL Ewooo Game Thread
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Not trolling. Just calling it like it is. Griz teams just have to accept they are no longer the best team. In the conference in Men's bball, women's bball....and now football too.
Except we literally were last year
Ignore him. He's a troll.
Uhhh...yeah. It never has been nor will it ever be (which is reason number 87,836,525,721 the GRIZ need to get out of it. But it's actually much better this year than in just about any year in memory.
BelierPeaux
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At the end of the day, it could have been worse. We could have blown an 18 point lead.
Mike in Montana
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You can't say that without knowing what he said and to whom.
mtgrizrule
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It's a free country to state an opinion.
Based on what they give us access to, it looked like a cheap technical.
He didn't do anything out of the ordinary.
He faced his team's bench.
He said nothing to any GRIZ.
He didn't taunt any GRIZ.
His reaction and the reaction of EWU was that of shock. I'll stick with my opinion.
Down one. 4.7 seconds left. Length of the court to go. Two options.
One: Get the ball to half court, call timeout. Set up a final play with less than four seconds to play. It’s your play but the defense is set. They’ve practised this defense since day one of practise. And they’ll do anything to keep the ball away from your best player, Money.
Two. Get the ball to incomparably the best player in the conference IN THE OPEN COURT. The defense is not set. They’re scrambling, back-pedaling. Four options for Money. Get fouled. Pass to a wide-open teammate near the basket. Shoot a three. OR TAKE IT TO THE BASKET (which he does!) I’m pumping my fist!! We win!!
No, Travis has gone traditional. And he told that player to call the time out. Old school.
And I’m not second-guessing. From the moment they took that ball out I wanted it Money’s hands, no time outs. That was the best play in that circumstance. I was furious. Went to the gym and lifted more weight than I ever had before!
One: Get the ball to half court, call timeout. Set up a final play with less than four seconds to play. It’s your play but the defense is set. They’ve practised this defense since day one of practise. And they’ll do anything to keep the ball away from your best player, Money.
Two. Get the ball to incomparably the best player in the conference IN THE OPEN COURT. The defense is not set. They’re scrambling, back-pedaling. Four options for Money. Get fouled. Pass to a wide-open teammate near the basket. Shoot a three. OR TAKE IT TO THE BASKET (which he does!) I’m pumping my fist!! We win!!
No, Travis has gone traditional. And he told that player to call the time out. Old school.
And I’m not second-guessing. From the moment they took that ball out I wanted it Money’s hands, no time outs. That was the best play in that circumstance. I was furious. Went to the gym and lifted more weight than I ever had before!
GriznMN
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Maybe with the NIL era and new transfers the Griz haven't practiced this situation yet but in HS basketball, coaches practice and have it instilled in their team what to do when down 1 or 2 with 5 seconds left on the clock with both a timeout left and no timeouts left. They know their players and what their players can and can't do.
I once was an assistant high school basketball coach and we had a player who could go coast to coast in 1.7 seconds. We timed it and told the kids no matter what, if we are down 1 with 2 or 3 seconds left, give it to CR and left him go to the hoop. It won us a game in the playoffs to go to state.
If Travis and the coaches didn't have this in yet, they certainly will when they get back to work on Monday.
I once was an assistant high school basketball coach and we had a player who could go coast to coast in 1.7 seconds. We timed it and told the kids no matter what, if we are down 1 with 2 or 3 seconds left, give it to CR and left him go to the hoop. It won us a game in the playoffs to go to state.
If Travis and the coaches didn't have this in yet, they certainly will when they get back to work on Monday.
GriznMN
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It was a technical. What you can't see is that he faced either Tyler Isaacs or Grant Kepley and yelled at them. He might have been yelling to the bench but he was facing a Griz when he did it. The refs will call that a technical for taunting early in the game to keep the game under control. There were some other calls that left me puzzling but that one did not. That's my opinion.
oldrunner
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Eastern Washington is not without talent, and just like the Griz, they have a veteran coach. You were playing the second game on the road after an emotional win at UI. The game was tight at the end and EWU finished better than your Griz. You can point fingers all you want, but it is not productive. It was a loss, you move on. The win was great for EWU, but not devastating to UM. It doesn't mean that one team is suddenly great and the other suddenly crappy. Nobody is getting out of this BSC season without at least 4 loses.
mtgrizrule
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I call bull on that time, not the strategy.
1.7 seconds without the ball is 35 feet to 40 feet elite speed. Elite speed guards take just over 3 seconds to go 80 to 90 feet. Sorry, if someone timed that, they started that count very late. Not even Iverson could do that.
BigSkyBreakdown
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Players know what a coach wants in those situations. These scenarios are taught, discussed, and repped early in the year and reinforced continuously in winning programs. DeCuires track record speaks for itself. It’s no different than getting a field goal unit on the field in football without a timeout—finish the play, get lined up, spike the ball, and rush the kicker out. It has to be executed perfectly, and it only happens through constant repetition every week.
Here’s the reality: humans make mistakes. We can look back at countless moments in sports history and say what should have been done, but many of the loudest critics have never been in that exact situation themselves. To think the staff and players don’t feel awful—or haven’t replayed that moment a thousand times in their heads—is delusional.
Unless you’ve watched multiple practices and listened to DeCuire break down situational basketball, your opinions are just that—opinions.
Rest assured, the decision will be addressed in film and practiced again this week in situational work.
Travis is a great coach, but stagnant. His steadfast refusal to recruit any semblance of size means a conference title is the absolute best we can ever hope for.
And his teams’ ability to choke the life out of a lead is of epidemic proportions.
I definitely feel lucky to have had Travis for as long as we have, but this program needs a breath of fresh air in my opinion.
And his teams’ ability to choke the life out of a lead is of epidemic proportions.
I definitely feel lucky to have had Travis for as long as we have, but this program needs a breath of fresh air in my opinion.
BelierPeaux
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Do you think the lack of being able to bring in a true big is due to the lack of size in our coaching staff? As in, we have no one to coach up a big guy who has been a big guy on the court? I'm definitely showing my lack of coaching chops with that statement, but I'm curious about it.
The eagles lost to CA Baptist earlier this year, eagles are 3-13 on the year, no matter how you try and spin it, this is a very bad loss for the grizzlies.
If anybody has a persona or narrative on this board it's you..
You have been bitching and complaining about the big sky conference, from its current to past teams in every sport, to the referring in every game involving the grizzlies football several years.
There is no doubt in my mind if the Grizzlies were in the SEC or BIG10 you would still be complaining about the same things..
I have a easy question, don't deflect and say anywhere but the big sky... what conference would you be less miserable in than the big sky?.. answer..
