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ESPN Bracketology - Weber @14

LillardMVP said:
I'm not superstitious and don't have OCD so I'll say it, we're hosting. Period. Winning out, that's another story. The game @ PSU could be tough, and we will have already clinched.

Wow, you are going out on a limb on that one! Up by two games with 2 or 3 to go, yeah you are hosting. Big deal. What does OCD have to do with predicting WSU's hosting of the BSC tourney? Despite your being oblivious to the fact that EWU is playing legit basketball right now, WSU could run into the same trouble that MSU and UM did last weekend. EWU could be playing for fourth or fifth in the conference if they win outright. Look for a loss in Cheney for WSU. And it won't be because of WSU resting players despite what you will use as an excuse.
 
weber is playing well right now, but if anyone thinks the big sky is going to get a #12 seed they are crazy. i will bet anyone anything right now that the sky doesn't sniff a 12 seed. especially with the big sky being pretty avreage this year. even more so than most years. i think the big sky deserves better than a 15, but i wouldn't be at all surprised if they were placed there. not likely though. 14 is most likely. 13 is a possibility if whatever team wins the conference does so in convincing fashion. i will bet anyone a case of beer on the 12 seed scenario. all you weber guys, i'll bet you an economy size can of tang. :lol:
 
...and who ever gets the seed...
...i'll bet a pack of smokes...
...it won't be the catz...


ilovethecats said:
i will bet anyone a case of beer on the 12 seed scenario. all you weber guys, i'll bet you an economy size can of tang.


... 8-) ...
 
In '03 we were a #12 seed, but had the longest winning streak in the country having won our last 17 games going in to the NCAA's after beating BYU and sweeping conference. If Weber wins out we will be lucky to get a #13 seed most likely #14 seed, especially with one more loss. If UNC goes dancing I would imagine the selection committee giving them a #15 seed, and if in some hell forsaken way Montana makes it, a #16 seed after that embarrassing loss to the flying Eagles of EWU.
 
LillardMVP said:
In '03 we were a #12 seed, but had the longest winning streak in the country having won our last 17 games going in to the NCAA's after beating BYU and sweeping conference. If Weber wins out we will be lucky to get a #13 seed most likely #14 seed, especially with one more loss. If UNC goes dancing I would imagine the selection committee giving them a #15 seed, and if in some hell forsaken way Montana makes it, a #16 seed after that embarrassing loss to the flying Eagles of EWU.


Lollard meet crow, crow this is Lollard. Have fun at the NIT!
 
Maybe MVP guy has the grey's sports almanac from 2015 and knows the outcome of this season after all he's still got 5 yrs left to predict scores.

just promise us you wont buy off the police and send your step son to boarding school outside fo the coutnry and then have your cronies beat him up for coming back to visit his lonely mother with implants. but if you do bring a bullet proof vest. trust me on this one.
 
LillardMVP said:
In '03 we were a #12 seed, but had the longest winning streak in the country having won our last 17 games going in to the NCAA's after beating BYU and sweeping conference. If Weber wins out we will be lucky to get a #13 seed most likely #14 seed, especially with one more loss. If UNC goes dancing I would imagine the selection committee giving them a #15 seed, and if in some hell forsaken way Montana makes it, a #16 seed after that embarrassing loss to the flying Eagles of EWU.

ya that was a pretty good year for the sky. top to bottom we had more talent. i was at that game that year. you guys lost to a very good wisconsin team and were in it the whole way. it's a pretty down year in the sky this time. but there will be other teams dancing far worse than the big sky champ (at least on paper) so i don't think there is anyway we get a 16 seed. 14 seems the most likely to me regardless of who is representing.
 
LillardMVP said:
In '03 we were a #12 seed, but had the longest winning streak in the country having won our last 17 games going in to the NCAA's after beating BYU and sweeping conference. If Weber wins out we will be lucky to get a #13 seed most likely #14 seed, especially with one more loss. If UNC goes dancing I would imagine the selection committee giving them a #15 seed, and if in some hell forsaken way Montana makes it, a #16 seed after that embarrassing loss to the flying Eagles of EWU.

If WSU, UNC, or Montana go I don't think any of those would end up with a 16 seed (but I guess it really depends on what other teams do). IMO, I see UNC with the highest possible seed for a BSC team if they win out due to best overall record and a good non-conference resume (plus it doesn't hurt to have been at the top of the mid-majors most of the year and getting that name recognition out there). Personally, I think both WSU and UM are actually a little bit better teams but the analysts and committee members are probably only going to look at box scores outside the tourney games.

I think the conference was actually up this year in terms of quality for the men. But that might actually hurt when it comes to the BSC seed because since everyone was up, there wasn't a team that just dominated and built a lot of wins (so far, even league leader WSU has two losses and everyone else 4+ in conference).

It's really too bad WSU is leading the league right now, having posted a mediocre 6-6 non-conf record. Imagine the seed possibilities for the BSC if UNC (who had a 11-2 non-conf record with wins over Hawaii, Air Force, Colorado State, San Jose State, TCU, Denver and a one point loss at Oklahoma) or even Montana (9-3 non-conf with wins over Boise State, Oregon, Fresno State, LMU x2 and a close loss at Washington) if either one would have only accumulated 2 losses in BSC play to add to their overall records...
 
LillardMVP said:
In '03 we were a #12 seed, but had the longest winning streak in the country having won our last 17 games going in to the NCAA's after beating BYU and sweeping conference. If Weber wins out we will be lucky to get a #13 seed most likely #14 seed, especially with one more loss. If UNC goes dancing I would imagine the selection committee giving them a #15 seed, and if in some hell forsaken way Montana makes it, a #16 seed after that embarrassing loss to the flying Eagles of EWU.

Look at the 16 seeds last year. 18-17 Chattanooga from the Southern Conference which is rated about the same as the Big Sky in RPI this year. 20-16 Morehead State from the OVC (rated just below the big sky). 23-11 East Tennessee State from the Atlantic Sun Conference (down towards the bottom in conference ratings). And last but not least 21-12 Radford College from the Big South conference (even lower than the Atlantic Sun this year).

If you take a look at the teams those 4 16 seeds played in their non-conference schedules last year, and compare them to the teams Weber, UNC and the Griz played this year..you can see why those teams were 16 seeds. I'm sure if you go back to the 2008 and 2007 tournaments you'll see similar teams with the 16 seeds.

If the Griz end up in the tournament that would mean their record is most likely 23-8. That will not be a 16 seed. Yes their RPI wouldn't be great, but I can pretty much guarantee you that there will be several other teams that are more deserving of a 16 seed. The Griz would most likely get a 15, maybe a 14 if lucky.

Weber would probably get the best seed out of the 3 big sky teams due to their RPI being higher. Their RPI is higher not really due to big wins over big teams, but because they played a tougher schedule (and lost to the tougher teams in non-conference).

The Griz got a 12 seed back when they were 23-6 going into the tournament. The 12 seed that year was a pretty big surprise to a lot of people. Portland State last year (23-9 going into the tournament) got a 13 seed. Sure they had a huge win earlier in the season against Gonzaga, but they also had some rough losses like against ISU later in the season.

I really think any of the top 3 teams in the Big Sky, if given a decent seed, have a chance of putting up a good fight or who knows..maybe even pulling off an upset. You hear the experts talk about it every year. The recipe for a big upset in the first round is great guard play from the underdog team. The top 3 big sky teams are lead by tremendous guards. The Griz of course have AJ. Weber has Lillard, and UNC has Figures. I hope I'm not wrong on this.. I'd hate to see the Big Sky team get stuck with a 16 seed.
 
Nah if its Weber, Montana, or UNC, they will probably get a 15-13 seed, our conference was pretty tough this year, there is no way the Big Sky dancer would get a 16.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
BSC


One n DONE again.

Actually WSU, UM, and UNC all have a chance to beat their higher seed in the big dance this year. UM presents match up problems if they are hitting from three, but that is a big if. That is the only way they will win the conference too.
 
bigtyme said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
BSC


One n DONE again.

Actually WSU, UM, and UNC all have a chance to beat their higher seed in the big dance this year. UM presents match up problems if they are hitting from three, but that is a big if. That is the only way they will win the conference too.

You guys lost to Denver. Matchup problems with a 2-3 seed? Are you kidding me?
 
1986cat said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
BSC


One n DONE again.

True. Big Sky basketball is small potatoes. If you are a fan of any team, watching a game is painful.


If Big Sky bball is a russett potato, Big Sky FCS is mini fingerlings potatoes. Wildcat basketball is anything, but painful, your a jackass.
 
All of Big Sky basketball is painful. They might pull off one upset here and there, but be honest. Not one team can regularly compete with establishment basketball teams. Big Sky is worse than the WCC, the WAC, and even the Pac-10 this year. One and done.
 
1986cat said:
Actually WSU, UM, and UNC all have a chance to beat their higher seed in the big dance this year. UM presents match up problems if they are hitting from three, but that is a big if. That is the only way they will win the conference too.

You guys lost to Denver. Matchup problems with a 2-3 seed? Are you kidding me?[/quote]

Montana does create matchup problems, especially when their strokin it from behind the Arc. UM, WSU, and UNC all have a shot of a first round upset, especially as a #13 Seed. Right now it looks like BYU could get a #3 or #4 seed, Weber was up by 2 against BYU in the Marriott Center(One of the hardest places to play in the Nation) with 6 minutes left in the game before Fredette hit a couple of crazy 3 pt. shots. The Big Sky could get matched up with BYU, Gonzaga, or anybody else in the Nation as a #4 seed, and really have a shot at a first round upset. Randy Rahe was quoted in the Salt Lake Tribune this morning as saying this is by far the toughest the Big Sky has been in the 4 years I've been at Weber, whoever wins this thing will really have accomplished something special.
 
Big Sky beat: Utah, Oregon, Fresno St., Air Force (2), Colorado St., Hawaii, Denver (2), TCU, Boise St., Portland, San Jose St., Morehead St.(Ohio Valley 1st place and last year champs, with 4 returning starters who won first round NCAA last year) Cal St. Fullerton(1st place in conf),UC Santa Barbara(1st in conf)

ALMOST WINS Washington -4, Oklahoma -1, Utah State-4,Wyoming-4, Nevada-3, CSU-1

CLOSE GAMES BYU, UNLV
 
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