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ESPN Bracketology 2-14

WSUnPurple said:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

updated: #15 Montana vs. #2 SDSU, Tucson
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Montana was a 14 seed last year with several weak losses, to include EWU. This year we have one game that may be considered a weak loss. Possible 11, most likely 12 or 13. We are on the radar because of the mid-major poll. Not even close last year. Big difference between this and last year and if someone doesn't recognize that as a sports broadcaster...well they just don't read egriz! ;)
 
If Montana plays well enough to win out, I predict two possible seeding scenarios, both favorable.

A) High seed (10-12) against a bronze medal winner from a big time conference, meaning a team like Wisconsin or Missouri.

B) Low seed (13-14) against a champion team from a smaller-profile conference and a sorta regional connection, meaning a team like St. Mary's or Utah State.

If the griz lose one or more games in the final three, then I see a low seed against a western power like BYU, Arizona or even UCLA, which is still not bad.

These "bracketolology" characters are busy people who have other things to write about and can't be bothered by agonizing over the last 20 in the NCAAT, so they basically pick them at random. In other words, you shouldn't put a dollar on their picks at this point. The griz should secure their best seed since the beginning of the 64+-team-tourney era if they win out.
 
As much as I would love a better seeding, at best we will be a 12 or 13 seed. Even if we win out. Unless we end the regular season badly, then win the conference tournament, I guess a 15 seed. I just do not see worse than 15 no matter how we get in.
 
mtgrizrule said:
As much as I would love a better seeding, at best we will be a 12 or 13 seed. Even if we win out. Unless we end the regular season badly, then win the conference tournament, I guess a 15 seed. I just do not see worse than 15 no matter how we get in.
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11 is a stretch, 12 is ideal, 13 is realistic, 14 would be lack of respect with a decent out of conference w-l, and 15 would completely blow my mind. Of course this is if we beat LBSU, EWU, and PSU and the the tournament. I would say a 12 or 13 seed against an USU, SDSU, U of A, BYU, UNLV, St Mary's, UCLA, UW. No matter what I like our chances against all except U of A and SDSU as they are much more athletic that we will be able to handle. But we will only get those if we are a 14 or 15 seed most likely. Of course we could always get sent to the other side of the country and get hosed on selection too. Just never know what those folks from the NCAA selection committee are thinking.
 
Just to be clear, you guys are talking seeds provided that UM wins the conference tournament, right?
 
artbellfan99 said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Just to be clear, you guys are talking seeds provided that UM wins the conference tournament, right?
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Last time I checked the BSC has never gotten an at-large bid, so yeah no durrr.
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Oh, my apologies completely. Yeah, we should be talking a lot about seeding right now.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
artbellfan99 said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Just to be clear, you guys are talking seeds provided that UM wins the conference tournament, right?
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Last time I checked the BSC has never gotten an at-large bid, so yeah no durrr.
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Oh, my apologies completely. Yeah, we should be talking a lot about seeding right now.
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Come on, this is the single luxury of being merely fans instead of people who are actually involved with the team's performance. We can yack and smack all we want about the griz without suffering any consequences because we don't get any (non-vicarious) rewards when the team wins. What's wrong with fans speculating about seeds late in a season? Sure, the griz might not even make NCAAT, but then so what? Nobody will remember and we had no effect on the games.
 
artbellfan99 said:
CDAGRIZ said:
artbellfan99 said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Just to be clear, you guys are talking seeds provided that UM wins the conference tournament, right?
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Last time I checked the BSC has never gotten an at-large bid, so yeah no durrr.
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Oh, my apologies completely. Yeah, we should be talking a lot about seeding right now.
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Come on, this is the single luxury of being merely fans instead of people who are actually involved with the team's performance. We can yack and smack all we want about the griz without suffering any consequences because we don't get any (non-vicarious) rewards when the team wins. What's wrong with fans speculating about seeds late in a season? Sure, the griz might not even make NCAAT, but then so what? Nobody will remember and we had no effect on the games.
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No, I totally agree. Speculate away, man. I know I do too. I just wanted to make absolutely sure that people weren't thinking at-large.
 
12 is unrealistic. Maybe 13 or 14 seed. By letting in more mid ranked power conf teams. I bet you see more mid major wins. And further most the griz have a team where we can beat a high seed...if we get the right matchup. Byu I think we would play with. We won't stop them but out frontcourt is bigger more talented. But some mid majors would give us fits. Some play a true 5 guard set. Which they will out shoot us all day. It would be interesting to see. IF WE TAKE CARE OF OUR BIZ. I would love to see a weak power conference team in our matchup.
 
mtgrizfankb said:
12 is unrealistic. Maybe 13 or 14 seed. By letting in more mid ranked power conf teams. I bet you see more mid major wins. And further most the griz have a team where we can beat a high seed...if we get the right matchup. Byu I think we would play with. We won't stop them but out frontcourt is bigger more talented. But some mid majors would give us fits. Some play a true 5 guard set. Which they will out shoot us all day. It would be interesting to see. IF WE TAKE CARE OF OUR BIZ. I would love to see a weak power conference team in our matchup.
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I Agree, and, if the Griz win out and do make the NCAA a 14th seed is probable...anyone else from the Big Sky and it will be a 16 or 15....
But, what gripes me the most about all of this is the NCAA relations with the money conferences and their lobbies...Personally, I think the most exciting tournament would be to allow all DIV 1 schools that wanted to, to enter and have team names pulled from a hat, like a lottery, matching up by pure chance, the only requirement would be a neutral court and a "mercy" rule that would end games where a lead of 35 or so was established...A true champion would emerge, and I bet there would be a lot smaller schools easily downing some of those from the "power" conferences..But, tv money and greed and need of the larger schools and conferrences would never go along with something like that....alas....
 
Gotta remember there are always surprise teams who win their conference tourney, and knock out the 12/13/14 labeled teams who are currently leading their conferences which are slightly better than the big sky. Would be like if weber or nau win the tour ey. What would have been likely a 14/15 with the Griz, becomes a 16
 
chitowngriz said:
Gotta remember there are always surprise teams who win their conference tourney, and knock out the 12/13/14 labeled teams who are currently leading their conferences which are slightly better than the big sky. Would be like if weber or nau win the tour ey. What would have been likely a 14/15 with the Griz, becomes a 16
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I do not think the Big Sky seeding will be different no matter what happens in other conference tournaments. If UM can run the table, I see them getting a 15, any other scenario is probably a 16 or even play-in game. Long Beach is most likely no better than a 14 if they come out of the Big West, and after yesterday, how can any Big Sky team get put ahead of them on a seeding line?
 
We went from a likely 12/13 to probably a 14 again, or maybe even a 15. We will NOT be a 16 seed or worse. Very easily could see SDSU or BYU in Tucson.
 
grizindabox said:
chitowngriz said:
Gotta remember there are always surprise teams who win their conference tourney, and knock out the 12/13/14 labeled teams who are currently leading their conferences which are slightly better than the big sky. Would be like if weber or nau win the tour ey. What would have been likely a 14/15 with the Griz, becomes a 16
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I do not think the Big Sky seeding will be different no matter what happens in other conference tournaments. If UM can run the table, I see them getting a 15, any other scenario is probably a 16 or even play-in game. Long Beach is most likely no better than a 14 if they come out of the Big West, and after yesterday, how can any Big Sky team get put ahead of them on a seeding line?
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Other Conference Tournaments will absolutely play a role in the Big Sky representatives seeding. If almost any one seed gets upset in the conference tourney, the representative from that conference will probably be a seed line lower at best. For example, if Coastal Carolina wins the Big South at 29 or 30-3 depending on how many games the play in their conference tourney, the will be seeded way above the Big Sky champ. However, if they lose and Liberty gets the auto-bid at 21-10 they would likely get a comparable if not worse seed than a Montana or Northern Colorado. If this happens in more than one conference, seeds can shift around a bunch during Championship Week
 
I was posting just to point out that the BSC is most likely going to get a 16 seed, and very well could be placed in the playin game, unless Montana wins, then maybe a 15.
 
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