Enrollment Growth - First Time In 10 Years

[retiredpopo]

On the morning of the WIU game I sold some furniture to 4 new freshman. I asked if they were going to the griz game tonight and they looked at me like I had 3 heads. One of them said "no that is not our thing" I thought it was funny.

 

[grizfnz]

On the morning of the WIU game I sold some furniture to 4 new freshman. I asked if they were going to the griz game tonight and they looked at me like I had 3 heads. One of them said "no that is not our thing" I thought it was funny.

My daughter has had a similar experience with the girls on her dorm floor… “we’re not really into football”.

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

does anyone have the actual numbers? a 3% increase in total enrollment would mean about 320 students more students than last year, give or take.

what were the bobs' numbers? ewu? weebs? it would be interesting to compare enrollment changes in similar institutions. i would imagine u.m. did better than most, if they gained students.

Montana State enrollment breaks record!

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/montana_state_university/montana-state-universitys-fall-freshman-enrollment-breaks-record/article_fdd281f8-7568-54ad-8ebc-572f57e7bb47.html

Big deal. I wonder how many of those students are from out of state? They come in, use the State of Montana assets from their education, and then most leave to pay taxes from elsewhere. I personally think this is not an appropriate use of Montana tx dollars and our of state enrollment should be severely limited.

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

Montana State enrollment breaks record!

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/montana_state_university/montana-state-universitys-fall-freshman-enrollment-breaks-record/article_fdd281f8-7568-54ad-8ebc-572f57e7bb47.html

Big deal. I wonder how many of those students are from out of state? They come in, use the State of Montana assets from their education, and then most leave to pay taxes from elsewhere. I personally think this is not an appropriate use of Montana tx dollars and our of state enrollment should be severely limited.

Please excuse the typos.

 

[wbtfg]

I just pulled up the census data, and UM really is up 30% in freshmen. I didn’t think that was pissible, but I guess I would have said the same thing about beating the huskies. Kudos to UM on getting the ship righted.

 

[garizzalies]

Not sure I buy the 30% increase in freshman (I think the reporter messed up a numerator)

This must be really hard on you. You’ve survived on enrollment smack for a decade. Which is so sad in and of itself.
As soon as I saw the title of this thread, I thought to myself, I bet that dbag cat fan will be in here trying to downplay it. Sure enough, you did not disappoint.
The first sign of life and you’ve already posted 4 times in this thread to dispute it. :lol:
Good lord what a pathetically sad existence you live.
The Griz are RTD’ing and the campus is rebounding. Your world must really be crumbling around you.

 

[EverettGriz]

Remember for like 27 years how the mantra from desperate cat fans -- each and every year! -- was "the tide is turning"? However, the tide never really turned. Well, it's fair to say here that regarding enrollment, the tide has most certainly turned.

Just as I predicted. Enrollment in the two schools has always been cyclical.

 

[wbtfg]

Not sure I buy the 30% increase in freshman (I think the reporter messed up a numerator)

This must be really hard on you. You’ve survived on enrollment smack for a decade. Which is so sad in and of itself.
As soon as I saw the title of this thread, I thought to myself, I bet that dbag cat fan will be in here trying to downplay it. Sure enough, you did not disappoint.
The first sign of life and you’ve already posted 4 times in this thread to dispute it. :lol:
Good lord what a pathetically sad existence you live.
The Griz are RTD’ing and the campus is rebounding. Your world must really be crumbling around you.

Not difficult at all. I’m glad to see enrollment getting back on track.

It looks like the 4 year campus was up 50 Montana kids (8.1%), up 45 for non-residents (31.1%) and up 200!!! (90.1%) WUE (washington, oregon, Idaho, Colorado, etc).

Not sure why you feel the need to take personal shots…..

 

[HookedonGriz]

I just pulled up the census data, and UM really is up 30% in freshmen. I didn’t think that was pissible, but I guess I would have said the same thing about beating the huskies. Kudos to UM on getting the ship righted.

Some much needed momentum for sure. I would have been happy with any increase and it looks like the numbers are even better than I was hoping for. It’s so important to have those larger freshman classes and then do all you can to retain them. We still have a long ways to go, but hopefully this is the first step in the right direction. I’m hearing from the folks more involved in enrollment that they are extremely optimistic about future growth.

 

[Griz90]

The University of Montana is on the front end of a campus-wide resurgence and I am very excited and happy for my alma mater. This is great news. Now lets go win the Natty and keep the momentum rolling!

 

[argh!]

does anyone have the actual numbers? a 3% increase in total enrollment would mean about 320 students more students than last year, give or take.

what were the bobs' numbers? ewu? weebs? it would be interesting to compare enrollment changes in similar institutions. i would imagine u.m. did better than most, if they gained students.

10,106 students

thanks.

 

[grizindabox]

Big deal. I wonder how many of those students are from out of state? They come in, use the State of Montana assets from their education, and then most leave to pay taxes from elsewhere. I personally think this is not an appropriate use of Montana tx dollars and our of state enrollment should be severely limited.

How do you feel about Montana residents that graduate from an in-state school and move out of state and pay taxes elsewhere? I think your stance is ignorant. Why do you think schools market themselves so heavily to out-of-state-students?

 

[Griz90]

Big deal. I wonder how many of those students are from out of state? They come in, use the State of Montana assets from their education, and then most leave to pay taxes from elsewhere. I personally think this is not an appropriate use of Montana tx dollars and our of state enrollment should be severely limited.

How do you feel about Montana residents that graduate from an in-state school and move out of state and pay taxes elsewhere? I think your stance is ignorant. Why do you think schools market themselves so heavily to out-of-state-students?

Out of state students pay WAY more than in-state students. MSU has worked it's ass off to attract MORE out of state students to keeps the income up. And it has worked. Blgs Griz is way off base here. Out of state students HELP our university!

 

[Brother Bear]

The article posted above distinguishes between the numbers from the two schools. So no, I believe the numbers for the freshman class represent UM while the numbers posted for Missoula college are for Missoula college alone.

Yeah. You might be right. Either way, an enrollment increase is great for UM and great for the entire state.

THIS, good call wbtfg, I totally get loyalties to athletic teams, etc. As a Montanan.... why would you not want both Universities (MSU and UM) to be strong academically with healthy enrollments. It would be nice if they both always had strong athletic teams too... (added bonus)

 

[retiredpopo]

Big deal. I wonder how many of those students are from out of state? They come in, use the State of Montana assets from their education, and then most leave to pay taxes from elsewhere. I personally think this is not an appropriate use of Montana tx dollars and our of state enrollment should be severely limited.

Please excuse the typos.

pretty sure we would be in trouble if that happened. ever drive thru the dorm parking lots? Look at all the out of state cars....many stay and I kind of wish they would leave..

 

[garizzalies]

This must be really hard on you. You’ve survived on enrollment smack for a decade. Which is so sad in and of itself.
As soon as I saw the title of this thread, I thought to myself, I bet that dbag cat fan will be in here trying to downplay it. Sure enough, you did not disappoint.
The first sign of life and you’ve already posted 4 times in this thread to dispute it. :lol:
Good lord what a pathetically sad existence you live.
The Griz are RTD’ing and the campus is rebounding. Your world must really be crumbling around you.

Not difficult at all. I’m glad to see enrollment getting back on track.

It looks like the 4 year campus was up 50 Montana kids (8.1%), up 45 for non-residents (31.1%) and up 200!!! (90.1%) WUE (washington, oregon, Idaho, Colorado, etc).

Not sure why you feel the need to take personal shots…..

Sure, buddy, whatever helps you sleep at night.

We knew this day would eventually come and were even more certain that you would be in this thread making multiple posts. :clap:

Super funny to me. RTD was predictable but not as predictable as you spouting off after this.

 

[noncasualobserver]

Big deal. I wonder how many of those students are from out of state? They come in, use the State of Montana assets from their education, and then most leave to pay taxes from elsewhere. I personally think this is not an appropriate use of Montana tx dollars and our of state enrollment should be severely limited.

Please excuse the typos.

Publicly funded schools almost need out of state students to survive. UM is desperate for them because the leadership can actually do arithmetic. BOR has been asking UM why they suck at this for years. Out of state students pay way more tuition and it benefits in state students HUGELY. Dude.....please don't make people from Billings look so bad.

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

How do you feel about Montana residents that graduate from an in-state school and move out of state and pay taxes elsewhere? I think your stance is ignorant. Why do you think schools market themselves so heavily to out-of-state-students?

Out of state students pay
way more than in-state students. MSU has worked it's ass off to attract MORE out of state students to keeps the income up. And it has worked. Blgs Griz is way off base here. Out of state students HELP our university!

You are looking at it from a pure tuition stand point. Sure they pay more in tuition. As they should. However, those in state students come from families that live in Montana, many for generations, and have contributed to the tax base that finances the University System and have done so for many years. Those families may have students educated here that leave after graduation but those families have supported the University System for years.

How many years have the out of state student families paid Montana taxes to support the University System? The answer to that is likely zero or minimal. Yet those out of state students come here, use the university facilities provided by tax paying Montanans, as well as the local infrastructure again paid for by Montana tax revenues. After graduation many of those students, if not most, leave Montana to be employed in careers and pay taxes where they live. How does the University system benefit from that scenario?

I am looking at it from a different perspective. I view my tax contribution to the University System as an investment and expect a reasonable return on my investment. Take a look at the expansion of the engineering program at MSU. How much infrastructure expansion would be necessary if that school had not promoted itself to out of state students? Just how did the recruitment of out of state students translate to the taxation of Montana residents?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Out of state students pay
way more than in-state students. MSU has worked it's ass off to attract MORE out of state students to keeps the income up. And it has worked. Blgs Griz is way off base here. Out of state students HELP our university!

You are looking at it from a pure tuition stand point. Sure they pay more in tuition. As they should. However, those in state students come from families that live in Montana, many for generations, and have contributed to the tax base that finances the University System and have done so for many years. Those families may have students educated here that leave after graduation but those families have supported the University System for years.

How many years have the out of state student families paid Montana taxes to support the University System? The answer to that is likely zero or minimal. Yet those out of state students come here, use the university facilities provided by tax paying Montanans, as well as the local infrastructure again paid for by Montana tax revenues. After graduation many of those students, if not most, leave Montana to be employed in careers and pay taxes where they live. How does the University system benefit from that scenario?

I am looking at it from a different perspective. I view my tax contribution to the University System as an investment and expect a reasonable return on my investment. Take a look at the expansion of the engineering program at MSU. How much infrastructure expansion would be necessary if that school had not promoted itself to out of state students? Just how did the recruitment of out of state students translate to the taxation of Montana residents?

The University System doesn't succeed without students from out-of-state. Your perspective would increase the tax contribution of every Montanan significantly just to maintain the existing levels. Plain and simple, your perspective isn't feasible.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

A great way to decrease enrollment is to limit the number of out-of-state students.