Do the Griz get in?

[bitterrootobserver]

I didn't do my research on NAU good enough and missed the D2 win. That is too bad and just another example of why scheduling a D2 team is a bad idea. I also believe NAU beats UND this week and think that the way they are playing right now they are probably the 2nd best team in the Big Sky.

 

[dupuyer griz]

Honestly, a 7-4 Griz team has a real good shot of f getting in. Trying to find 24 teams that qualify is difficult. Many of the conferences will only send 1 team. I'd have to really look at standings to see. Make it easy, win out and get in. As much as other schools don't like it and wether they will admit it or not, a bid for 18,000 tickets sold turkey weekend helps the NCAA pay for travel. They may not admit it, but it has a real bearing.


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[mtgrizfankb]

I strongly believe them at the Griz would beat UND. The UND offense is not very good and wouldn't score more than 21 and the Griz "should" put up more than that vs almost anyone. I would love a home can SD then a road case UND then a road vs EWU. That my friends would be interesting to see

 

[Gaeilge1]

If the Griz wind up 7-4 and do get in, certainly not a guarantee, there are a few teams that potentially could match them bid wise. I would not be at all certain that if they do get in they would get a home game.

 

[kemajic]

The UND offense is not very good and wouldn't score more than 21 and the Griz "should" put up more than that vs almost anyone.

Montana scored 16 against an EWU defense that is not as good as UND's.

 

[mtgriz]

I don't think UM will bid as high as in the past. Last year, a terrific matchup with SDSU, only sold 14,600 tickets. People have figured out that at $35 a ticket, best to wait and see if the Griz go deeper in the playoffs than Thanksgiving weekend.

 

[bgbigdog]

I strongly believe them at the Griz would beat UND. The UND offense is not very good and wouldn't score more than 21 and the Griz "should" put up more than that vs almost anyone. I would love a home can SD then a road case UND then a road vs EWU. That my friends would be interesting to see

In the middle of the defensive meltdown going on now?

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Im just happy that everyone is talking playoffs again....and stepping back from the ledge.....

I cant wait for that first round home game....hopefully a win...and than off to Not So Grand Forks....would be a great start for our playoff chances....but the 1st round home game is a lock....

Money might be the only thing more important to the NCAA than setting up NDSU for a cakewalk to Frisco.

 

[PlayerRep]

I don't think UM will bid as high as in the past. Last year, a terrific matchup with SDSU, only sold 14,600 tickets. People have figured out that at $35 a ticket, best to wait and see if the Griz go deeper in the playoffs than Thanksgiving weekend.

I can't imagine that any school could match UM's first round bid. UM's ticket prices for the first round game will be higher than any other school, due to the ncaa's requirement that the price can't be below the lowest price charged during the season (which I believe is the requirement). And UM's attendance, even at 14,000, would almost surely be higher than any other first round school. I'm assuming NDSU will be seeded.

From an article in Dec. 2015:

"The average attendance in last weekend's first round was particularly poor at 5,634, with a high of 14,575 at Montana (that's more than 11,000 below than the average regular-season game) and an embarrassing low of 997 at Dayton. Montana was up slightly from a home game in last year's first round, but Northern Iowa and Sam Houston State, which hosted games both years, were down quite a bit from last year, when the average attendance for eight first-round games was 6,548.

FCS schools eventually made it to an average of 8,295 for the 22 games played at school sites before the championship game drew 20,918 to Frisco - driven by the North Dakota State fan base."

 

[EverettGriz]

I don't think UM will bid as high as in the past. Last year, a terrific matchup with SDSU, only sold 14,600 tickets. People have figured out that at $35 a ticket, best to wait and see if the Griz go deeper in the playoffs than Thanksgiving weekend.

UM's bid will be same that it always is to ensure hosting a first round game.

 

[mtgriz]

I don't think UM will bid as high as in the past. Last year, a terrific matchup with SDSU, only sold 14,600 tickets. People have figured out that at $35 a tickaet, best to wait and see if the Griz go deeper in the playoffs than Thanksgiving weekend.

I can't imagine that any school could match UM's first round bid. UM's ticket prices for the first round game will be higher than any other school, due to the ncaa's requirement that the price can't be below the lowest price charged during the season (which I believe is the requirement). And UM's attendance, even at 14,000, would almost surely be higher than any other first round school. I'm assuming NDSU will be seeded.

From an article in Dec. 2015:

"The average attendance in last weekend's first round was particularly poor at 5,634, with a high of 14,575 at Montana (that's more than 11,000 below than the average regular-season game) and an embarrassing low of 997 at Dayton. Montana was up slightly from a home game in last year's first round, but Northern Iowa and Sam Houston State, which hosted games both years, were down quite a bit from last year, when the average attendance for eight first-round games was 6,548.

FCS schools eventually made it to an average of 8,295 for the 22 games played at school sites before the championship game drew 20,918 to Frisco - driven by the North Dakota State fan base."

I agree that Montana's bid will be sufficient. Just commenting that attendance has been on a downtrend for our playoff games, and yes I do think the NCAA rule is hogwash, being that Griz fans pay twice or three times as much as fans at other first round games. I wouldn't be surprised if we were able to get back to 20,000 if we could charge $15 like most of the other host schools.

 

[reinell30]

OK, so how does it work? UM bids on a playoff game, what revenue does UM get and what revenue does the NCAA get? Why do they not have 50/50 at playoff games?

 

[PlayerRep]

OK, so how does it work? UM bids on a playoff game, what revenue does UM get and what revenue does the NCAA get? Why do they not have 50/50 at playoff games?

From recollection, after payment of expenses to put on the game, the ncaa gets 80% and UM gets 20%. Something like that.

 

[Herd]

I didn't do my research on NAU good enough and missed the D2 win. That is too bad and just another example of why scheduling a D2 team is a bad idea. I also believe NAU beats UND this week and think that the way they are playing right now they are probably the 2nd best team in the Big Sky.

The hard and fast rule about DII wins is supposed to no longer exist. A DII win is now supposed to judged on the strength of that win. playing a DII top 10 would probably be a better win than 50-60 DI teams, let's be honest. The DII win is supposed to count, and be judged on its merit.

 

[IdaGriz01]

I didn't do my research on NAU good enough and missed the D2 win. That is too bad and just another example of why scheduling a D2 team is a bad idea. I also believe NAU beats UND this week and think that the way they are playing right now they are probably the 2nd best team in the Big Sky.

The hard and fast rule about DII wins is supposed to no longer exist. A DII win is now supposed to [be] judged on the strength of that win. Playing a DII top 10 would probably be a better win than 50-60 DI teams, let's be honest. The DII win is supposed to count, and be judged on its merit.

I do believe you're right. However, that is not good news for NAU. The D-II they played (NM Highlands) has not won a game this year and were 2-9 last year. So, if anything, that game would lower the NAU SOS.

 

[Herd]

Got it, not a strong win. But stating that I you did not have X (7) DI wins should no longer be part of any narrative for playoff consideration.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Got it, not a strong win. But stating that I you did not have X (7) DI wins should no longer be part of any narrative for playoff consideration.

But you can't tell me having 7 wins over FCS teams isn't better than having 6 and a D2. NAU is at a disadvantage because of that.

 

[NAUJacksFan]

Got it, not a strong win. But stating that I you did not have X (7) DI wins should no longer be part of any narrative for playoff consideration.

But you can't tell me having 7 wins over FCS teams isn't better than having 6 and a D2. NAU is at a disadvantage because of that.

Sure you can. NAU's 70 point win over NMHU is about the same as Montana's 60 point win over Mississippi Valley State (the 2nd worst team in the FCS). NAU would have done the same to MVSU.

Both teams could have won by 100.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Got it, not a strong win. But stating that I you did not have X (7) DI wins should no longer be part of any narrative for playoff consideration.

But you can't tell me having 7 wins over FCS teams isn't better than having 6 and a D2. NAU is at a disadvantage because of that.

Sure you can. NAU's 70 point win over NMHU is about the same as Montana's 60 point win over Mississippi Valley State (the 2nd worst team in the FCS). NAU would have done the same to MVSU.

Both teams could have won by 100.

Then NAU should have scheduled MVSU and not NM Highlands. MVSU will carry more weight than NMHU just because they are FCS.

 

[Grizzly Oredigger]

Just to pile on and reiterate: NAU - 0% Chance (6 d-1 wins)

As other's have mentioned, WIU got in last year, with one of the hardest schedules in FCS. Craig Haley discussed this recently re: possible 6-win teams getting in this year and he didn't even mention NAU as a possibility.