Did an up-tempo spread offense....

[The_Real_Chief]

I mean hasn't Urban won a few titles already with a big physical running QB and a spread offense?

 

[BWahlberg]

Oh and one other thing, in his 2nd full season as a head coach Dabo Swinney won 6 games. After that his teams posted double digit wins every single season.

You've got the "6 games" in the wrong place. He went from 3-2 conference his first season to 6-2 in the Atlantic Conference his second season, the conference champion. His overall record his second year was 9-5.

You meant to say that, right?

And you meant to point out that he went 4-4 conference his third year, after he had all his own "recruits," somehow managing to lose seven games total by some magical power of "double digit wins."

Or were you referring to a different Dabo Swinney?

What, exactly, was your point?

2nd full season as HC. Full being the key word

His first actual season as head coach he was an interim for the last 7 games.

His second actual season but first full season with the team he went 9-5. His third actual season but SECOND full season he went 6-7 overall.

It wold appear that even good coaches can have early bumps in the road. Good thing Clemson didn't fire him. Maybe Stitt deserves similar consideration. Additionally his third full season (fourth actual season as HC) his team was mostly his recruits. From there his teams went 10-4, 11-2, 11-2, 10-3, 14-1, and 14-1

My point is sometimes coaches need a little bit of time and maybe some people should chill the F out and see how things transpire.

 

[bgbigdog]

Without the best player in the college game, that D Watson guy, Clemson's gimmicky offense goes home a loser. How did he not win the trophy this year?

 

[Ursus1]

Some of these are hilarious and an awesome lesson in fuzzy logic. Clemson/Dabo/Bama/Saban. Saban won a ton of titles, lost on a pick play.....he was using a true freshman QB, yet Stitt's program can get reliable QB play out of anyone.....let alone play a true freshman at QB. Clemson LOST last year with that offense, and without a pick play would gave again. Dabo and Saban should not even have Stitt mentoned in the same post as them.....they both teams to championships, not left out of a 24 team playoff system!!

 

[Chet_Ripley]

That up-tempo Montana spread offense ran 59 plays against a poor MSU team.

...and 57 of those plays were out of the same formation. Any comparison of what UM does on offense to Clemson's offense is a stretch. Maybe if a Deshaun Watson type player comes to UM we'll see Stitt's offense function. Until then, it'll be horizontal pass, run, horizontal pass (all out of the same formation), punt.

 

[AZDoc]

Oh and one other thing, in his 2nd full season as a head coach Dabo Swinney won 6 games. After that his teams posted double digit wins every single season.

You've got the "6 games" in the wrong place. He went from 3-2 conference his first season to 6-2 in the Atlantic Conference his second season, the conference champion. His overall record his second year was 9-5.

You meant to say that, right?

And you meant to point out that he went 4-4 conference his third year, after he had all his own "recruits," somehow managing to lose seven games total by some magical power of "double digit wins."

Or were you referring to a different Dabo Swinney?

What, exactly, was your point?

2nd full season as HC. Full being the key word

His first actual season as head coach he was an interim for the last 7 games.

His second actual season but first full season with the team he went 9-5. His third actual season but SECOND full season he went 6-7 overall.

It wold appear that even good coaches can have early bumps in the road. Good thing Clemson didn't fire him. Maybe Stitt deserves similar consideration. Additionally his third full season (fourth actual season as HC) his team was mostly his recruits. From there his teams went 10-4, 11-2, 11-2, 10-3, 14-1, and 14-1

My point is sometimes coaches need a little bit of time and maybe some people should chill the F out and see how things transpire.

Wow...where is he? That was one of the best fact filled azz kickings I've seen in a while. I hope it's true lol

 

[AZDoc]

I've watched a lot of Clemson this year. Was going to post earlier that they're doing just fine with this offense, but knew it'd be a shat show. I'm glad someone did post this. I think if the pieces fall in place, the griz can make noise. Let's hope it starts this spring folks!

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Some of these are hilarious and an awesome lesson in fuzzy logic. Clemson/Dabo/Bama/Saban. Saban won a ton of titles, lost on a pick play.....he was using a true freshman QB, yet Stitt's program can get reliable QB play out of anyone.....let alone play a true freshman at QB. Clemson LOST last year with that offense, and without a pick play would gave again. Dabo and Saban should not even have Stitt mentoned in the same post as them.....they both teams to championships, not left out of a 24 team playoff system!!

Why is everyone so bent out of shape about the final touchdown play?

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Oh and one other thing, in his 2nd full season as a head coach Dabo Swinney won 6 games. After that his teams posted double digit wins every single season.

You've got the "6 games" in the wrong place. He went from 3-2 conference his first season to 6-2 in the Atlantic Conference his second season, the conference champion. His overall record his second year was 9-5.

You meant to say that, right?

And you meant to point out that he went 4-4 conference his third year, after he had all his own "recruits," somehow managing to lose seven games total by some magical power of "double digit wins."

Or were you referring to a different Dabo Swinney?

What, exactly, was your point?

2nd full season as HC. Full being the key word

His first actual season as head coach he was an interim for the last 7 games.

His second actual season but first full season with the team he went 9-5. His third actual season but SECOND full season he went 6-7 overall.

It wold appear that even good coaches can have early bumps in the road. Good thing Clemson didn't fire him. Maybe Stitt deserves similar consideration. Additionally his third full season (fourth actual season as HC) his team was mostly his recruits. From there his teams went 10-4, 11-2, 11-2, 10-3, 14-1, and 14-1

My point is sometimes coaches need a little bit of time and maybe some people should chill the F out and see how things transpire.

Wow...where is he? That was one of the best fact filled azz kickings I've seen in a while. I hope it's true lol

If he's foolish enough to try a rebuttal, it will not touch on Brint's original point, or the subsequent beat down Brint laid on him. But it will contain an attempt at trashing Stitt.

 

[wbtfg]

Great game last night....

Watson and Williams are big time talents no doubt about it. That said, I think the turning point of the game was when Alabama's stud running back went out and the true freshman QB was forced to shoulder more of the load. If Scarborough, who already had 2 TD's and was ripping off runs at 6 ypc doesn't get hurt, Alabama wins the game.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Great game last night....

Watson and Williams are big time talents no doubt about it. That said, I think the turning point of the game was when Alabama's stud running back went out and the true freshman QB was forced to shoulder more of the load. If Scarborough, who already had 2 TD's and was ripping off runs at 6 ypc doesn't get hurt, Alabama wins the game.

I think you are right. Not sure 'Bama converted another 3rd down after he left the game.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Oh and one other thing, in his 2nd full season as a head coach Dabo Swinney won 6 games. After that his teams posted double digit wins every single season.

You've got the "6 games" in the wrong place. He went from 3-2 conference his first season to 6-2 in the Atlantic Conference his second season, the conference champion. His overall record his second year was 9-5.

You meant to say that, right?

And you meant to point out that he went 4-4 conference his third year, after he had all his own "recruits," somehow managing to lose seven games total by some magical power of "double digit wins."

Or were you referring to a different Dabo Swinney?

What, exactly, was your point?

What in the actual fuck are you babbling about? Dabo Swinney went 9-5 his first full year and 6-7 his second full year at Clemson (2010). He beat powerhouses North Texas, Presbyterian, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Maryland and NC State. Lost to South Florida in the Meineke Car Care Bowl.

 

[kemajic]

Some of these are hilarious and an awesome lesson in fuzzy logic. Clemson/Dabo/Bama/Saban. Saban won a ton of titles, lost on a pick play.....he was using a true freshman QB, yet Stitt's program can get reliable QB play out of anyone.....let alone play a true freshman at QB. Clemson LOST last year with that offense, and without a pick play would gave again. Dabo and Saban should not even have Stitt mentoned in the same post as them.....they both teams to championships, not left out of a 24 team playoff system!!

Why is everyone so bent out of shape about the final touchdown play?

It was the Russians!

 

[AZGrizFan]

Great game last night....

Watson and Williams are big time talents no doubt about it. That said, I think the turning point of the game was when Alabama's stud running back went out and the true freshman QB was forced to shoulder more of the load. If Scarborough, who already had 2 TD's and was ripping off runs at 6 ypc doesn't get hurt, Alabama wins the game.

I think you are right. Not sure 'Bama converted another 3rd down after he left the game.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...

 

[UMGriz75]

His first actual season as head coach he was an interim for the last 7 games.

His second actual season but first full season with the team he went 9-5. His third actual season but SECOND full season he went 6-7 overall.

It wold appear that even good coaches can have early bumps in the road. ...

My point is sometimes coaches need a little bit of time and maybe some people should chill the F out and see how things transpire.

That's quite the spin. As an "interim" head coach, he wasn't an actual head coach, so it doesn't count. Seriously? You mean, he went 6-2 conference his "actual first year" and then the flop 4-4 was his actual second year, right? Then, by manipulating the term "interim coach" that means he had a good year his third year, instead of the bad year.

Have you surveyed how many coaches went in exactly the opposite direction after their first coaching year? Why not? It's not the records, so much, as it is WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, and the fact that it represented a trend here begun in the first year.

Maybe you should stop spinning what actually happened this year and grow the F up. You know, just to coin a phrase for you. I generally enjoy your posts but when you need to turn asshole just because somebody calls you on a bad set of facts, well, good luck with that strategy.

 

[getgrizzy]

Up tempo offense

Goal to run 90+ plays

Gas the defense

Relied upon a dynamic QB and playmaker WRs.

Very strong defense but not "the best" defense (Alabama had that)



(Shrugs)

But it'll never work in the fcs right? lol

Well, OK! We're going to be great again after all. Lol. Which of the following NC game teams were up-tempo? By my count 8 of the teams that made the NC game the past 20 years were up-tempo. They other 32 were not.

2016 James Madison Mike Houston 28-14 Youngstown
2015 North Dakota State Chris Klieman 37-10 Jacksonville State
2014 North Dakota State Chris Klieman 29-27 Illinois State
2013 North Dakota State Craig Bohl 35-7 Towson
2012 North Dakota State Craig Bohl 39-13 Sam Houston State
2011 North Dakota State Craig Bohl 17-6 Sam Houston State
2010 Eastern Washington Beau Baldwin 20-19 Delaware
2009 Villanova Andy Talley 23-21 Montana
2008 Richmond Mike London 24-7 Montana
2007 Appalachian State Jerry Moore 49-21 Delaware
2006 Appalachian State Jerry Moore 28-17 Massachusetts
2005 Appalachian State Jerry Moore 21-16 UNI Chattanooga, Tenn.
2004 James Madison Mickey Matthews 31-21 Montana
2003 Delaware K.C. Keeler 40-0 Colgate
2002 Western Kentucky Jack Harbaugh 34-14 McNeese State
2001 Montana Joe Glenn 13-6 Furman
2000 Georgia Southern Paul Johnson 27-25 Montana
1999 Georgia Southern Paul Johnson 59-24 Youngstown State
1998 Massachusetts Mark Whipple 55-43 Georgia Southern
1997 Youngstown State Jim Tressel 10-9 McNeese State

 

[krammer]

whats obvious to me is the qb position.....they may have only one running back but Watson run a bunch and could throw too......we must have a dual threat qb to be anything like Clemson only on a smaller scale....

 

[grizcountry420]

This thread........

 

[Ursa Major]

Oh and one other thing, in his 2nd full season as a head coach Dabo Swinney won 6 games. After that his teams posted double digit wins every single season.

You've got the "6 games" in the wrong place. He went from 3-2 conference his first season to 6-2 in the Atlantic Conference his second season, the conference champion. His overall record his second year was 9-5.

You meant to say that, right?

And you meant to point out that he went 4-4 conference his third year, after he had all his own "recruits," somehow managing to lose seven games total by some magical power of "double digit wins."

Or were you referring to a different Dabo Swinney?

What, exactly, was your point?

2nd full season as HC. Full being the key word

His first actual season as head coach he was an interim for the last 7 games.

His second actual season but first full season with the team he went 9-5. His third actual season but SECOND full season he went 6-7 overall.

It wold appear that even good coaches can have early bumps in the road. Good thing Clemson didn't fire him. Maybe Stitt deserves similar consideration. Additionally his third full season (fourth actual season as HC) his team was mostly his recruits. From there his teams went 10-4, 11-2, 11-2, 10-3, 14-1, and 14-1

My point is sometimes coaches need a little bit of time and maybe some people should chill the F out and see how things transpire.

Wow...where is he? That was one of the best fact filled azz kickings I've seen in a while. I hope it's true lol

I agree with Doc! POTY! Should be a new category: Beat down of the Year Award. Ironically put together by one of the nicest posters on the board.

 

[argh!]

His first actual season as head coach he was an interim for the last 7 games.

His second actual season but first full season with the team he went 9-5. His third actual season but SECOND full season he went 6-7 overall.

It wold appear that even good coaches can have early bumps in the road. ...

My point is sometimes coaches need a little bit of time and maybe some people should chill the F out and see how things transpire.

That's quite the spin. As an "interim" head coach, he wasn't an actual head coach, so it doesn't count. Seriously? You mean, he went 6-2 conference his "actual first year" and then the flop 4-4 was his actual second year, right? Then, by manipulating the term "interim coach" that means he had a good year his third year, instead of the bad year.

Have you surveyed how many coaches went in exactly the opposite direction after their first coaching year? Why not? It's not the records, so much, as it is WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, and the fact that it represented a trend here begun in the first year.

Maybe you should stop spinning what actually happened this year and grow the F up. You know, just to coin a phrase for you. I generally enjoy your posts but when you need to turn asshole just because somebody calls you on a bad set of facts, well, good luck with that strategy.

in a conversation about coaching records, you opine "it's not the records, so much, as it is what actually happened"?????????????? you are one sad little man, squirrel.