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Delaney's "Doghouse"

grizcountry420 said:
funny water said:
Potomac Griz said:
grizcountry420 said:
You guys are hilarious! First its, we need a coach that can discipline these kids when they get out of line and now you guys are bitching because he's too stringent........?

What gives?
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I see no one bitching here... What thread are you reading?

This thread just has some curious Griz fans as to what happened to some of the players who seem to have landed in the doghouse for whatever reasons.
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that was my take too.... i'm not sure who is considered to be bitching in the thread? i like Delaney being stringent.... i do agree with the Bud that the respect factor needs to be taught at home way before the kids get to the collegiate level....
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I am soooo sorry that i filled your vaginas with sand.................. ;)
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apology accepted ;)
 
Maybe it isn't a "dog house" but a coach trying to find his way while evaluating his players like you suggest.
It does seem some players can do know wrong i.e. the safeties, while others, like the CB's are "sat down" a lot.
As long as he is consistent with his discipline, he should be ok. If he is not a "equal opportunity" punisher then
that is a problem. In any event, if Delaney wins his "hard ass" style will be welcomed. If he loses, he will be run out of town by the Griz fans.
 
Things may have changed in 40 years but likley not. Its a lot harder to get out of Micks doghouse than in, and if the guy who takes your place is as good or even close to as good as you, THE ONLY way to get out is to be unquestionably better than he is. It CAN easily be a one way door. Mick doesn't bark, he bites.

When you are working your ass off to get out of the doghouse, you don't have time to screw up, and the guy who took your place is working his off to keep it. Before you know it the whole team knows if you let down for an instant, it could be over. Mick has a very LARGE doghouse and its not reserved for discipline problems. He doesn't like mistakes (without a good reason) either. The most ominous words out of his mouth are "we'll get that fixed"
 
I like the no-nonsense approach he brings. He doesn't put up with bs and bad attitudes, which is a welcomed change of pace IMO. IF there was a "culture of tolerance" that existed before he took the reigns, hopefully he will clean the house of those at the root of the problem
 
tnt said:
Things may have changed in 40 years but likley not. Its a lot harder to get out of Micks doghouse than in, and if the guy who takes your place is as good or even close to as good as you, THE ONLY way to get out is to be unquestionably better than he is. It CAN be a one way door.

When you are working your ass off to get out of the doghouse, you don't have time to screw up, and the guy who took your place is working his off to keep it. Before you know it the whole team knows if you let down for an instant, it could be over. Mick has a very LARGE doghouse and its not reserved for discipline problems. He doesn't like mistakes (without a good reason) either. The most ominous words out of his mouth are "we'll get that fixed"
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That can definitely be a good thing, and it can also be a very bad thing. If players start playing afraid to make a mistake out there the whole team suffers. Seen that happen before (Griz BB team during the Taylor & Holst eras).

It's also been hinted at (by Cat fans) that stuff like that is what's currently going on with the MSU Bobcat basketball team under Huse....that program is an absolute disaster right now.

Now, before people jump all over me... I'm NOT saying that's what's going on here, just worries me a little since I've seen the effects of a coach who was way too quick to chuck people in the doghouse and never let them out.

Besides Haynes, Brzczhek and Goodwin, have there been any others people have noticed just disappear with no real obvious reason?
 
tnt said:
Things may have changed in 40 years but likley not. Its a lot harder to get out of Micks doghouse than in, and if the guy who takes your place is as good or even close to as good as you, THE ONLY way to get out is to be unquestionably better than he is. It CAN easily be a one way door. Mick doesn't bark, he bites.

When you are working your ass off to get out of the doghouse, you don't have time to screw up, and the guy who took your place is working his off to keep it. Before you know it the whole team knows if you let down for an instant, it could be over. Mick has a very LARGE doghouse and its not reserved for discipline problems. He doesn't like mistakes (without a good reason) either. The most ominous words out of his mouth are "we'll get that fixed"
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Which probably answers the "where is Brzczeck" crowd's question of why we're not seeing #6 out there as the #2 QB right now.
 
Haynes' offense is not criminal or even a team rules violation so to speak. From what I was told at the EWU he just basically decided he doesn't like the offense and doesn't want to be here anymore. He was voicing that "opinion" behind the coaches backs but to the wrong people so to speak. Take it for what it's worth, that's what I was told at the GSA tailgate in Cheney. No proof or idea if that's true.
 
If he in fact as is rumored to "changed the play" twice, he won't be seen again unless he is VERY VERY good.....

Mick used to give a little slack (if there was a "reason"), but that was 41 years ago......
 
If McKinney were to go down for the rest of a game or multiple games, I think we would see Brez. He is better suited to run the current offense.
 
tnt said:
If he in fact as is rumored to "changed the play" twice, he won't be seen again unless he is VERY VERY good.....

Mick used to give a little slack (if there was a "reason"), but that was 41 years ago......
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Yeah thats the rumor - changed the play twice and then lead to a turnover on the 3rd play... I can't imagine that sits well with Coach D.
 
PlayerRep said:
If McKinney were to go down for the rest of a game or multiple games, I think we would see Brez. He is better suited to run the current offense.
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Agree... SSH looked kind of timid out there. I dont know if he was nervous or what. I think Brady Gustafson is the most "pure" QB we have on the roster but he doesnt fit the offense we run at this moment...
 
I’m a big believer in fostering an environment where the players play loose. Everyone is going to make mistakes and I don’t think that putting a guy on the bench because he fumbled the ball is productive. Hauck use to do that but imho letting the guy stew over his mistake doesn’t help. If a receiver drops a pass go right back to him. Show the guys you have confidence in them as players. Keep it loose, keep the schemes as simple as possible and let the athletes fly around without having to over think or worry about making mistakes. The team might be a little streaky which you need to accept up front. I was not a big Mike Price fan but he did have some cool coaching qualities. Play aggressive and let the players have some fun.

With that said I think the players need to be on a short leash off the field. Don’t give third and fourth chances and don’t bring in proven trouble makers into your program. Position coaches are the key to this. They have to develop personal relationships with players outside of football and mentor them at this stage in their lives. The head coach really shouldn’t be the guy that comes down on the player for off field screw ups it should be the position coach. For those of you who served in the Marines it’s like the relationship you have with your drill instructor and your senior drill instructor.
I don’t know Mick personally so I have to go by what I hear but I think he’s doing a great job, with the exception of that stupid decision to kick off both halves last game.
 
grizcountry420 said:
PlayerRep said:
If McKinney were to go down for the rest of a game or multiple games, I think we would see Brez. He is better suited to run the current offense.
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Agree... SSH looked kind of timid out there. I dont know if he was nervous or what. I think Brady Gustafson is the most "pure" QB we have on the roster but he doesnt fit the offense we run at this moment...
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I don't know about timid, but even his short passes have excessive hang time, which could get receivers killed. It's time for him to quit throwing change-ups. We could have lost that game if McKinney had not been able to come back.
 
Indian....I agree..he is what our program had to have at this point. As for the kick offs..yes, he made a mistake, but there is a lot of pressure on Mick, a fellow old timer who is looking pretty darn good as our coach.
 
Spanky said:
Indian....I agree..he is what our program had to have at this point. As for the kick offs..yes, he made a mistake, but there is a lot of pressure on Mick, a fellow old timer who is looking pretty darn good as our coach.
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Given the fact the defense/special teams were also our offense to that point, I'm not so sure that the Kudos to the defense and wake up call to the offense was such a bad idea (assuming of course there wasn't a run back but what are the chance of that or losing a game on an onside kick)
 
tnt said:
Spanky said:
Indian....I agree..he is what our program had to have at this point. As for the kick offs..yes, he made a mistake, but there is a lot of pressure on Mick, a fellow old timer who is looking pretty darn good as our coach.
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Given the fact the defense/special teams were also our offense to that point, I'm not so sure that the Kudos to the defense and wake up call to the offense was such a bad idea (assuming of course there wasn't a run back but what are the chance of that or losing a game on an onside kick)
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You honestly think that kicking twice was a good idea? You honestly think that giving up a possession was intended to be a wake up the offense? If so, that really is poor decision making. And, I have kept my mouth shut on criticism of Delaney, for the most part.
 
Geddes said:
tnt said:
Spanky said:
Indian....I agree..he is what our program had to have at this point. As for the kick offs..yes, he made a mistake, but there is a lot of pressure on Mick, a fellow old timer who is looking pretty darn good as our coach.
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Given the fact the defense/special teams were also our offense to that point, I'm not so sure that the Kudos to the defense and wake up call to the offense was such a bad idea (assuming of course there wasn't a run back but what are the chance of that or losing a game on an onside kick)
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You honestly think that kicking twice was a good idea? You honestly think that giving up a possession was intended to be a wake up the offense?
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No, but it worked out that way......
 
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