Delaney will resign at the end of the season.

[Skookum-Jim]

I for one think he is doing a terrific job.........however I could do better.......you should see the dynasty I've created in NCAA Football......truthfully eye opening........

You're kidding right?

Someone should dredge up that thread when we were talking about Delaney getting the contract extension. Remember that press conference when we were all predicting 9-2 seasons and how great it was to have delaney on board for another year because of how great it was going to be for recruiting. Remember that stuff? :lol:

 

[griz4life]

So who do you think hires the next coach? I'm pretty sure President Engstrom does, just like he hired Delaney. I'd bet he spoke with Haslam before hiring Delaney, too. Don't expect some great next hire. Aint going to happen.

 

[GrizzManFan]

So who do you think hires the next coach? I'm pretty sure President Engstrom does, just like he hired Delaney. I'd bet he spoke with Haslam before hiring Delaney, too. Don't expect some great next hire. Aint going to happen.

+1

 

[Bobby's knows]

I for one think he is doing a terrific job.........however I could do better.......you should see the dynasty I've created in NCAA Football......truthfully eye opening........

You're kidding right?

Absolutely not!! Really it's increadible! .........why would I joke about such a sensitive topic.....

 

[RobGriz]

So who do you think hires the next coach? I'm pretty sure President Engstrom does, just like he hired Delaney. I'd bet he spoke with Haslam before hiring Delaney, too. Don't expect some great next hire. Aint going to happen.

+1

+1 more...unfortunately. Engstrom is not a "sports" guy.

 

[bigkid]

would'nt you think engstrom would know the importance of Grizzly Football and how it integrates into the institution as a whole. He seems to think that football is a bad thing and somehow hurts the university. He should default to people who know better. This guy is a joke. He needs to come out and express his views instead of hiding like a coward.

 

[grizfnz]

Football coaching has changed, gone are the days of the wise old sage Jo Pa, Bowden, Holtz......its now a younger and more dynamic coaches game (Kiffin, Myer, Kelly, Stoops, Kelly, etc.). Our next coach needs to be in that mold or we are going to start losing recruits. While we have a huge seating capacity advantage, the rest of the facilities are lacking and the game day experience the U continues to charge a premium for had been stale for at least 5 years now.
EWU is getting kids because they have a younger coach, a gimmick field and plans to modernize their facility (coaches offices, weight room, locker rooms, remove the track). If they win the chipper this year they will become the conference power, a place that we held for nearly 20 years.
UM administrations (past and present) have siphoned off huge sums of $ generated from athletics and invested very little (other than a few stadium expansions that paid for themselves) back into the programs. I suppose I should add lights too, but I firmly believe that had MSU not installed them first, they would not exist at WGS. Another sub par year and I predict donations will take a huge hit, making any "planned improvements" to our facilities nothing more than a dream.

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[grizatwork]

Football coaching has changed, gone are the days of the wise old sage Jo Pa, Bowden, Holtz......its now a younger and more dynamic coaches game (Kiffin, Myer, Kelly, Stoops, Kelly, etc.). Our next coach needs to be in that mold or we are going to start losing recruits. While we have a huge seating capacity advantage, the rest of the facilities are lacking and the game day experience the U continues to charge a premium for had been stale for at least 5 years now.
EWU is getting kids because they have a younger coach, a gimmick field and plans to modernize their facility (coaches offices, weight room, locker rooms, remove the track). If they win the chipper this year they will become the conference power, a place that we held for nearly 20 years.
UM administrations (past and present) have siphoned off huge sums of $ generated from athletics and invested very little (other than a few stadium expansions that paid for themselves) back into the programs. I suppose I should add lights too, but I firmly believe that had MSU not installed them first, they would not exist at WGS. Another sub par year and I predict donations will take a huge hit, making any "planned improvements" to our facilities nothing more than a dream.

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EWU is not winning the chipper this year. The lowly griz rushed for over 400 yards against them. Their quarterback has limitations and is bailed out by the best receiving corp in the big sky. They cant rush the ball. That being said. I agree with everything else you said.

 

[tgriz]

Football coaching has changed, gone are the days of the wise old sage Jo Pa, Bowden, Holtz......its now a younger and more dynamic coaches game (Kiffin, Myer, Kelly, Stoops, Kelly, etc.). Our next coach needs to be in that mold or we are going to start losing recruits. While we have a huge seating capacity advantage, the rest of the facilities are lacking and the game day experience the U continues to charge a premium for had been stale for at least 5 years now.
EWU is getting kids because they have a younger coach, a gimmick field and plans to modernize their facility (coaches offices, weight room, locker rooms, remove the track). If they win the chipper this year they will become the conference power, a place that we held for nearly 20 years.
UM administrations (past and present) have siphoned off huge sums of $ generated from athletics and invested very little (other than a few stadium expansions that paid for themselves) back into the programs. I suppose I should add lights too, but I firmly believe that had MSU not installed them first, they would not exist at WGS. Another sub par year and I predict donations will take a huge hit, making any "planned improvements" to our facilities nothing more than a dream.

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Great post

 

[mikegriz]

I don't think today's loss was his fault at all. You can place this one at the feet of Rosenbauch.

Rosenbach doesn't manage the clock (but then again neither does Delaney)

 

[NorthwestFresh]

NCAA sanctions are still coming, which are going to further cripple this once-great program.

I wonder how many of you will be posting here in two years. :shock:

 

[MrTitleist]

EWU is not winning the chipper this year. The lowly griz rushed for over 400 yards against them. Their quarterback has limitations and is bailed out by the best receiving corp in the big sky. They cant rush the ball. That being said. I agree with everything else you said.

Your post completely missed the point of what grizfnz is saying, plus it's really dumb to say "EWU won't win the chipper." EWU will be #1 this week when the polls come out.. you don't get there by accident this late in the season. Everything grizfnz said is a very likely scenario.

 

[Potomac Griz]

Football coaching has changed, gone are the days of the wise old sage Jo Pa, Bowden, Holtz......its now a younger and more dynamic coaches game (Kiffin, Myer, Kelly, Stoops, Kelly, etc.). Our next coach needs to be in that mold or we are going to start losing recruits. While we have a huge seating capacity advantage, the rest of the facilities are lacking and the game day experience the U continues to charge a premium for had been stale for at least 5 years now.
EWU is getting kids because they have a younger coach, a gimmick field and plans to modernize their facility (coaches offices, weight room, locker rooms, remove the track). If they win the chipper this year they will become the conference power, a place that we held for nearly 20 years.
UM administrations (past and present) have siphoned off huge sums of $ generated from athletics and invested very little (other than a few stadium expansions that paid for themselves) back into the programs. I suppose I should add lights too, but I firmly believe that had MSU not installed them first, they would not exist at WGS. Another sub par year and I predict donations will take a huge hit, making any "planned improvements" to our facilities nothing more than a dream.

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Very good post.

Besides donations possibly taking a hit, season ticket sales would likely take a big hit. Right now we are one of the most expensive in the FCS (if not the most expensive). Hell... you can get season tickets to many very good FBS teams for cheaper than Griz tickets.

As much as people want to call it bandwagon fans, or whatever...the fact is people will not shell out the big bucks to watch a program that isn't winning consistently That's the harsh reality of it...

 

[Grizzaholic]

Football coaching has changed, gone are the days of the wise old sage Jo Pa, Bowden, Holtz......its now a younger and more dynamic coaches game (Kiffin, Myer, Kelly, Stoops, Kelly, etc.). Our next coach needs to be in that mold or we are going to start losing recruits. While we have a huge seating capacity advantage, the rest of the facilities are lacking and the game day experience the U continues to charge a premium for had been stale for at least 5 years now.
EWU is getting kids because they have a younger coach, a gimmick field and plans to modernize their facility (coaches offices, weight room, locker rooms, remove the track). If they win the chipper this year they will become the conference power, a place that we held for nearly 20 years.
UM administrations (past and present) have siphoned off huge sums of $ generated from athletics and invested very little (other than a few stadium expansions that paid for themselves) back into the programs. I suppose I should add lights too, but I firmly believe that had MSU not installed them first, they would not exist at WGS. Another sub par year and I predict donations will take a huge hit, making any "planned improvements" to our facilities nothing more than a dream.

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Very good post.

Besides donations possibly taking a hit, season ticket sales would likely take a big hit. Right now we are one of the most expensive in the FCS (if not the most expensive). Hell... you can get season tickets to many very good FBS teams for cheaper than Griz tickets.

As much as people want to call it bandwagon fans, or whatever...the fact is people will not shell out the big bucks to watch a program that isn't winning consistently That's the harsh reality of it...

I'm mixed on that statement...I know using FBS school Notre Dame isn't really comparable but they went on a stretch between 1994-2008 where they either weren't eligible for a bowl game or lost in a bowl game. Between 2004 to 2010 they had an overall winning record of 0.576 which is close to going 7-4 every year. They still had a ridiculously strong following, alumni donations as well as prime-time TV slots because of their strong tradition of success. No other school provides the same atmosphere or tailgate experience in the FCS as us so I don't really see this year's sub-par performing Montana team resulting in a substantial hit on ticket sales next year when they could easily be one of the pre-season Big Sky Conference favorites for the 2013 season...

 

[OrgonGriz]

I agree we need a young dynamic head coach hire. I have mentioned Johnathan Smith before. Yes he is at Boise State as a QB coach. Would he come back to UM if offered? I would like to think he would.

Who the hell has a clue on what the NCAA is going to do? I do not think UM had any where near the cover up and issues Penn State had. If anything the City of Missoula should be in more hot water than UM in my opinion.

What really sucks is UM for years by far was getting the better talent and rolling through conference play for the most part. UM does have the best football stadium in the BSC hands down. But that's for now folks! A good part of the BSC is catching up or has plans to catch up to UM. Sadly with all that has taken place at UM seems to have ome at the worst time. Know we have a President that really seems to care less what happens to UM football. Some have said Engstrom does not realize how much UM football has done for UM in many areas outside football. I don't think he has one clue.

Look we have a 25k seat stadium and if this mess is not cleaned up soon people are going to stop paying top dollar to watch the Griz only be able to beat Div II and lower level FCS teams. It sickens me to even think an FCS school that can hardly get say 4 or 5 thousand people to attend there games can get better coaches and recruit just as well as UM can.

Finally the BSC really needs UM to be on top and for that matter so does the FCS.. If UM fans stop following this team, kiss good bye all of our fans that travel to every conference game. Kiss good bye the ESPN visits for home playoff games that actually make FCS look decent. Look back to how special that App State playoff game was. That looked amazing on ESPN. Then think about the Semi final game that EWU held and they could not even fill there stands!!!! I now many of us posted how sad that made EWU look and the FCS.

To much work, effort, blood, sweat and tears have been put into this program to let some clueless President and over matched coaches destroy.

If something is not changed and changed quickly this could be a devastating blow to UM football for years. If you think this is all over reaction maybe think about it for a bit.

 

[zoo guy]

Mike Kramer will be free'd up after this season ! Who could be better? Hard nosed and wants to beat the Bobcats the minute he gets here. I think it would be a great fit !

 

[grizfnz]

Mike Kramer will be free'd up after this season ! Who could be better? Hard nosed and wants to beat the Bobcats the minute he gets here. I think it would be a great fit !

Kramer doesn't fit in the young and dynamic category, maybe 20 year ago EWU Kramer did, but not now.

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[BigPawzSharpClawz]

I think Delaney needs a couple of years to get his players in place :thumb:

Cant disagree more. HIS players will become the next coaches players at the end of next year (based upon currently contract) then we have to wait for that coach to insert HIS type of recruit.

That's 4-5 years working our way back to stability and prominence. No Way. Make the change in the off season. Give our next long term coach a jump start. There's so much young talent already here. We can fill gaps with a few JC guys next two years where veteran play and leadership is needed. Along with out recruiting every other program in the PNW to grow our young talent pool.

I appreciate Mick! Either way he gets his $$$ and to be honest he deserves it for stepping into the fire that Engstrom created unnecessarily through his rash termination of O'Day and Pflugrad. The administration can "defer" his compensation into future years. Spread out the payments and ease the financial commitment they made to him. This allows for another coach to come in and immediately begin to get us back to prominence.

This is the toughest conference in the FCS division by far. More depth, more overall talent, better coaching and passionate fans at nearly every stop! Kids come here to win! Period. We need to get back to that ASAP before other programs close the gap more then they have this year. I love Montana and in state players but we better get some more out of state talent like everyone else, too! There's not enough in state talent to monopolize so we better get after it recruiting wise as well.

Work to do
Go Griz

 

[bGrizzled]

grizzlies wont know what to do during their first post season no playoff hibernation...

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

Jonathan Smith would be a poor hire as a head coach right now. I think he could be good someday. We need someone with head coaching or at least some coordinating experience.