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Defensive Philosophy

What's the ideal defensive philosophy to go with the Stitt finesse spread offense? Ty opted for the 4-3. Semore is going to go with a 3-4 (hybrid, because no coach can refuse to use that word).

Why not find a DC who is going to go bat-shit crazy and unleash a completely chaotic defense.

Read this:
http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2015/3/20/8243681/the-attacking-8-3-defense-counterpoint-to-the-spread-option-offense-boise-state-BYU

Are coaches too afraid to be known as a double-finesse team? If the goal is to wear out the other team with your offense, field a boom-or-bust D that is getting off the field quick one way or another. The obvious answer is that teams are going to run the ball right at it. Maybe. But watch the AZ Cards and Buccannon play middle backer at 220 pounds in the league. If Stitt is going to play basketball on offense, play a full court trapping defensive to go with it.

An aside - I'm a power football fan. I thought Phenecie was too soft with his play calling. But if you're going to go in, go all in. 
 
With Stitt's offense, stopping the run will be the top priority. We don't want to see teams go out there and run 8 minutes off the clock at a time. Forcing turnovers, and getting the offense back on the field will be the next most important thing. Hopefully we have some big, mean defensive linemen and playmaking LB's and DB's coming up through the ranks for years to come.


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So run a 4-4 on first and second down? I agree an 8 minute drive is the worst case scenario for a Stitt offense but I don't think sitting in a 4-3 or 3-4 base package is the answer. A heavy blitzing 3-4 maybe? I'm just surprised someone with Stitt's imagination on offense doesn't match it with his D. West Virginia has run their 3-3-5 for awhile and had a decent amount of success.
 
Phoenix_Griz said:
So run a 4-4 on first and second down? I agree an 8 minute drive is the worst case scenario for a Stitt offense but I don't think sitting in a 4-3 or 3-4 base package is the answer. A heavy blitzing 3-4 maybe? I'm just surprised someone with Stitt's imagination on offense doesn't match it with his D. West Virginia has run their 3-3-5 for awhile and had a decent amount of success.
I haven't watched them at all, but Wisconsin has had probably the best defense in the nation the last couple years. Lost their coordinator to LSU.


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Phoenix_Griz said:
So run a 4-4 on first and second down? I agree an 8 minute drive is the worst case scenario for a Stitt offense but I don't think sitting in a 4-3 or 3-4 base package is the answer. A heavy blitzing 3-4 maybe? I'm just surprised someone with Stitt's imagination on offense doesn't match it with his D. West Virginia has run their 3-3-5 for awhile and had a decent amount of success.

Can we give Semore a couple seasons before we call for a new DC already?

Coming up with an effective scheme and game plan is important, but getting talented players that can execute is even more important. I'm hoping that the players are working on execution more than learning a different defensive scheme.
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
I'm hoping that the players are working on execution more than learning a different defensive scheme.
All things considered, with the variety of "superior" offensive schemes out there, wouldn't this be just as true for offense? Pick one. Then ram home "execution."
 
UMGriz75 said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
I'm hoping that the players are working on execution more than learning a different defensive scheme.
All things considered, with the variety of "superior" offensive schemes out there, wouldn't this be just as true for offense? Pick one. Then ram home "execution."

Execution is paramount to any scheme you run on either side of the ball. It doesn't matter how innovative or unique your scheme is, if your players can't execute it. I'm willing to give Stitt and Semore a chance to prove that they can get their players to execute and produce their game plans.
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
UMGriz75 said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
I'm hoping that the players are working on execution more than learning a different defensive scheme.
All things considered, with the variety of "superior" offensive schemes out there, wouldn't this be just as true for offense? Pick one. Then ram home "execution."
Execution is paramount to any scheme you run on either side of the ball. It doesn't matter how innovative or unique your scheme is, if your players can't execute it. I'm willing to give Stitt and Semore a chance to prove that they can get their players to execute and produce their game plans.
As I attempted to point out, "execution" is everything. Brilliant strategies occupy fans and mad scientists. Execution still wins the games.
 
UMGriz75 said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
UMGriz75 said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
I'm hoping that the players are working on execution more than learning a different defensive scheme.
All things considered, with the variety of "superior" offensive schemes out there, wouldn't this be just as true for offense? Pick one. Then ram home "execution."
Execution is paramount to any scheme you run on either side of the ball. It doesn't matter how innovative or unique your scheme is, if your players can't execute it. I'm willing to give Stitt and Semore a chance to prove that they can get their players to execute and produce their game plans.
As I attempted to point out, "execution" is everything. Brilliant strategies occupy fans and mad scientists. Execution still wins the games.

Agreed on execution. I'm not going to discount strategy though. Maybe it is romanticized by fans, but a good strategy and system play a big part in winning games....if it is executed of course...
 
Semore will do great as DC. Last season, he had more of an audition with the GRIZ than will ever be made public. Just watch highlights before and after the Portland State. That should answer some questions and be a prelude to a few of the schemes the GRIZ used after that game. It will be a much more diversified and versatile defense than we fans are accustomed too. It will change from game to game.
 
Much of what has made systems like the Air Raid so lethal is the way the quarterbacks are transformed into machines that quickly process the defense and quick trigger the ball to the right playmaker. When their ability to quickly discern what's happening and act on muscle memory is disturbed, they can become ordinary very quickly.


Thought this was an interesting point in the article, likely had something to do with the offensive struggles here last year. Going to face a variety of offensive styles again this season, so am all in with regard to favor of changing things up so that opposing offenses have to struggle with attacking our defense.
 
UMGriz75 said:
As I attempted to point out, "execution" is everything. Brilliant strategies occupy fans and mad scientists. Execution still wins the games.

Then why doesn't Stitt line up and run Iso and Power all game? Since execution is the only thing that matters and strategy isn't very important.

His offense outmans the Defense and puts them in a bad situation, often forcing the defense to choose between having only 5 in the box or getting back-shouldered to death. Strategy. So why not do the same on Defense and force the Offense into a corner?

I'm not saying replace Semore, just seeing what scheme people would be interested in seeing.
 
UMGriz75 said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
UMGriz75 said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
I'm hoping that the players are working on execution more than learning a different defensive scheme.
All things considered, with the variety of "superior" offensive schemes out there, wouldn't this be just as true for offense? Pick one. Then ram home "execution."
Execution is paramount to any scheme you run on either side of the ball. It doesn't matter how innovative or unique your scheme is, if your players can't execute it. I'm willing to give Stitt and Semore a chance to prove that they can get their players to execute and produce their game plans.
As I attempted to point out, "execution" is everything. Brilliant strategies occupy fans and mad scientists. Execution still wins the games.

Superb execution does win games - no argument. When superb execution is combined with "brilliant strategies," national championships are earned.

There are times when a coach lacks pieces (talent) in certain places - that "brilliant strategies" can also win games. Both Stitt and Semore will have to earn their money this season for the team to reach its full potential.
 
mtgrizrule said:
Semore will do great as DC. Last season, he had more of an audition with the GRIZ than will ever be made public. Just watch highlights before and after the Portland State. That should answer some questions and be a prelude to a few of the schemes the GRIZ used after that game. It will be a much more diversified and versatile defense than we fans are accustomed too. It will change from game to game.

Yes. I believe one of the main reasons Coach Stitt brought Semore with him is his defensive versatillity and innovation. They are very similar in this regard. It will not surpise me if the D alignment changes, not only game to game, but play to play.
 
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