Defensive adjustments

[AZGrizFan]

Not disagreeing with you here. But usually there is a reason why. Texas, LA, and Florida are the most recruited places nationwide. It’s very rare, not impossible, but very rare that a kid simply goes unrecruited by a school that is for their skill set. Meaning if a kid is a G5 caliber player, he typically is recruited and goes to a G5 school. If he ends up going FCS or even D2, there is usually a reason for it.

I think the point is that a lot of the preps who are FCS level players get buried because they are such talent rich places. All you have to do is go look at the State of Texas recruiting rankings on 247. You can get down their player ranking 250 kids deep and still see players with Power 5 commitments, and no FCS commits. Transversely, you can look at the state of Washington, a place that consistently produces Power 5 talent, where you only have to go down their rankings 16 spots before your hit an FCS commit, a QB going to the Vandals.

The point being made above is that there are just so many prep athlete's in a place like Texas that there are lots of them who are high end FCS level players who are overlooked because they are not on the radar of the bigger schools.

This is where having someone on staff who has coached in that state, even at a high school level, would pay dividends because they know where to go to find talent and know coaches, trainers, etc.

Exactly. 223 is dead wrong about Texas. There are literally a couple hundred 3-star athletes that end up going to shitty FCS or D-!!, D-III and NAIA schools because it’s heavily underrecruited.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I think the point is that a lot of the preps who are FCS level players get buried because they are such talent rich places. All you have to do is go look at the State of Texas recruiting rankings on 247. You can get down their player ranking 250 kids deep and still see players with Power 5 commitments, and no FCS commits. Transversely, you can look at the state of Washington, a place that consistently produces Power 5 talent, where you only have to go down their rankings 16 spots before your hit an FCS commit, a QB going to the Vandals.

The point being made above is that there are just so many prep athlete's in a place like Texas that there are lots of them who are high end FCS level players who are overlooked because they are not on the radar of the bigger schools.

This is where having someone on staff who has coached in that state, even at a high school level, would pay dividends because they know where to go to find talent and know coaches, trainers, etc.

Exactly. 223 is dead wrong about Texas. There are literally a couple hundred 3-star athletes that end up going to shitty FCS or D-!!, D-III and NAIA schools because it’s heavily underrecruited.

I’ve witnessed the same thing down here over the past few seasons during which I’ve been paying attention. If UM wants to innovate, it needs to look into different areas for certain positions. If we want to keep doing the same thing and keep getting the same results/complaints, go ahead and keep getting our HS QBs and DBs from Helena and Glacier because they came to the summer camp. I’m pretty fed up with our recruiting of certain positions.

 

[SoCal Surfer]

Texas would be fertile grounds for UM for recruiting DL/OL players. Things are bigger in Texas.

 

[Missoula223]

I think the point is that a lot of the preps who are FCS level players get buried because they are such talent rich places. All you have to do is go look at the State of Texas recruiting rankings on 247. You can get down their player ranking 250 kids deep and still see players with Power 5 commitments, and no FCS commits. Transversely, you can look at the state of Washington, a place that consistently produces Power 5 talent, where you only have to go down their rankings 16 spots before your hit an FCS commit, a QB going to the Vandals.

The point being made above is that there are just so many prep athlete's in a place like Texas that there are lots of them who are high end FCS level players who are overlooked because they are not on the radar of the bigger schools.

This is where having someone on staff who has coached in that state, even at a high school level, would pay dividends because they know where to go to find talent and know coaches, trainers, etc.

Exactly. 223 is dead wrong about Texas. There are literally a couple hundred 3-star athletes that end up going to poop FCS or D-!!, D-III and NAIA schools because it’s heavily underrecruited.

You don’t have to believe me. But dallas and LA are the 2 most recruited areas in the nation. And frankly it’s not even close. The next would be Florida. But Florida kids aren’t as willing to leave the region as Cali kids. And dallas is centrally located and less regionalized. I recruited Texas for 6 years. Not 1 time did I walk in to a high school from 3A to 6A where an FBS program wasn’t scheduled to visit in the same day.

Can you name another hub that is more highly recruited?

 

[Missoula223]

I think the point is that a lot of the preps who are FCS level players get buried because they are such talent rich places. All you have to do is go look at the State of Texas recruiting rankings on 247. You can get down their player ranking 250 kids deep and still see players with Power 5 commitments, and no FCS commits. Transversely, you can look at the state of Washington, a place that consistently produces Power 5 talent, where you only have to go down their rankings 16 spots before your hit an FCS commit, a QB going to the Vandals.

The point being made above is that there are just so many prep athlete's in a place like Texas that there are lots of them who are high end FCS level players who are overlooked because they are not on the radar of the bigger schools.

This is where having someone on staff who has coached in that state, even at a high school level, would pay dividends because they know where to go to find talent and know coaches, trainers, etc.

Exactly. 223 is dead wrong about Texas. There are literally a couple hundred 3-star athletes that end up going to poop FCS or D-!!, D-III and NAIA schools because it’s heavily underrecruited.

And if you’re free in the middle of June, go check out the SMU camp. There will be no less than 100 FcS/FBS schools at every single one

 

[AZGrizFan]

Exactly. 223 is dead wrong about Texas. There are literally a couple hundred 3-star athletes that end up going to poop FCS or D-!!, D-III and NAIA schools because it’s heavily underrecruited.

And if you’re free in the middle of June, go check out the SMU camp. There will be no less than 100 FcS/FBS schools at every single one

I’m sure there are. Doesn’t change the fact that hundreds of 2 & 3 star athletes from Texas go unrecruited or underrecruited and end up at much smaller schools that could run circles around some of the athletes on the Griz and in the BSC.

 

[mthoopsfan]

And if you’re free in the middle of June, go check out the SMU camp. There will be no less than 100 FcS/FBS schools at every single one

I’m sure there are. Doesn’t change the fact that hundreds of 2 & 3 star athletes from Texas go unrecruited or underrecruited and end up at much smaller schools that could run circles around some of the athletes on the Griz and in the BSC.

I don’t know anything about Texas recruiting, but is this really true and how do you know it? I no thought recruits got stars in large part for being recruited. How do kids get to be 3 stars without being recruited by good schools? Just asking. I don’t know this part of recruiting.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

And if you’re free in the middle of June, go check out the SMU camp. There will be no less than 100 FcS/FBS schools at every single one

I’m sure there are. Doesn’t change the fact that hundreds of 2 & 3 star athletes from Texas go unrecruited or underrecruited and end up at much smaller schools that could run circles around some of the athletes on the Griz and in the BSC.

Reminds me of when my Brother-in-law lived in Midland and would talk about Odessa Junior Vollege in the late 80’s. He said they had a team that could defeat most d1 basketball teams. They were full of studs, one being Larry Johnson from Tyler, Tex.

Went on to play for the Running Rebels, then the NBA.

So much talent in Texas.

My brother-in-law lives in the Woodlands now. I said last year, looks like the Cats picked up a kid from The Woodlands as a Defensive Back. He wasn’t worried as a good kid from Texas wouldn’t go to the bobcats. We will see.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Houston and its suburbia has to be the most densely packed recruiting bed in the Nation. Dallas/FW and So Cal probably right behind. Then - So Georgia / North Florida followed Ohio Valley Region (Penn / Ohio / NJ).

I could have this wrong, but I agree with AZ - these places have dudes just short of FBS level in truckloads.

I do not think it's easy to jump start a system to get into those regions...would take some time, or coaches with already established connections.

 

[Missoula223]

And if you’re free in the middle of June, go check out the SMU camp. There will be no less than 100 FcS/FBS schools at every single one

I’m sure there are. Doesn’t change the fact that hundreds of 2 & 3 star athletes from Texas go unrecruited or underrecruited and end up at much smaller schools that could run circles around some of the athletes on the Griz and in the BSC.

2 things. Rarely do recruits simply go under the radar. If a kid has 2 or 3 stars and they are going to small schools there’s a reason for it. Grades, character issues, some type of trouble.

Where are these hundreds of kids at? I would think that would be bigger news that, and I mean no offense, if Texas is so under recruited, how do hundreds P5 / G5 players end up at D2 schools? And how many have thrived at D2 so much that they get into the league?

 

[AZGrizFan]

I’m sure there are. Doesn’t change the fact that hundreds of 2 & 3 star athletes from Texas go unrecruited or underrecruited and end up at much smaller schools that could run circles around some of the athletes on the Griz and in the BSC.

2 things. Rarely do recruits simply go under the radar. If a kid has 2 or 3 stars and they are going to small schools there’s a reason for it. Grades, character issues, some type of trouble.

Where are these hundreds of kids at? I would think that would be bigger news that, and I mean no offense, if Texas is so under recruited, how do hundreds P5 / G5 players end up at D2 schools? And how many have thrived at D2 so much that they get into the league?

Wait. So now your qualifier is that they have to have “gotten into the league”? Hell, there’s FIVE STAR athletes that fail at that.

Honestly, i don’t care if you believe me or not. I’ve seen it year after year with my own two eyes. I live here. I attend HS football games regularly. And I see athletes going to schools they shouldn’t be going to routinely. Yeah, it could be grades, it could be wants, but that doesn’t explain ALL of them.

I’m done trying to convince you…

 

[indiancoyote]

2 things. Rarely do recruits simply go under the radar. If a kid has 2 or 3 stars and they are going to small schools there’s a reason for it. Grades, character issues, some type of trouble.

Where are these hundreds of kids at? I would think that would be bigger news that, and I mean no offense, if Texas is so under recruited, how do hundreds P5 / G5 players end up at D2 schools? And how many have thrived at D2 so much that they get into the league?

Wait. So now your qualifier is that they have to have “gotten into the league”? Hell, there’s FIVE STAR athletes that fail at that.

Honestly, i don’t care if you believe me or not. I’ve seen it year after year with my own two eyes. I live here. I attend HS football games regularly. And I see athletes going to schools they shouldn’t be going to routinely. Yeah, it could be grades, it could be wants, but that doesn’t explain ALL of them.

I’m done trying to convince you…

You could make a pretty strong case that there are many players on the Griz current roster who shouldn't be there.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Wait. So now your qualifier is that they have to have “gotten into the league”? Hell, there’s FIVE STAR athletes that fail at that.

Honestly, i don’t care if you believe me or not. I’ve seen it year after year with my own two eyes. I live here. I attend HS football games regularly. And I see athletes going to schools they shouldn’t be going to routinely. Yeah, it could be grades, it could be wants, but that doesn’t explain ALL of them.

I’m done trying to convince you…

You could make a pretty strong case that there are many players on the Griz current roster who shouldn't be there.

Well that’s where this whole thing started…that there are much better athletes out there going under recruited at the expense of having a certain # of “Montana” boys on the field…particularly on defense.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Yep don’t disagree with that either. I never even said our secondary was good or athletic. I simply refuted the claim that we had all 5’9 guys from chinook.

I would agree that is not the case either. I think people tend to jump to conclusions when the secondary, in their opinion, is not performing and they see a good portion of that position group from Montana High Schools.

He also has no concept of sarcasm

 

[mthoopsfan]

I would agree that is not the case either. I think people tend to jump to conclusions when the secondary, in their opinion, is not performing and they see a good portion of that position group from Montana High Schools.

He also has no concept of sarcasm

The post might have been intended to be sarcastic, but it wasn't even remotely funny. That's why it drew responses.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

He also has no concept of sarcasm

The post might have been intended to be sarcastic, but it wasn't even remotely funny. That's why it drew responses.

Yeah if there’s anyone who knows comedy on this site it’s you Playa