Defense - National Stats

[PlayerRep]

Oh BS, Kyle. Semore's defense against CP sucked. Even Semore admitted that. The UM defense this year was literally not half as good as last year's. And the offense this year, was literally twice as good as last year's. Sander's cramps, BS. I saw the play, just like you did. Sanders made a huge mistake and let the receiver run past him. At that point of the play, Sanders didn't think the receiver was going to go deep. It had absolutely zero to do with cramps. Sanders was beat at the moment he let the receiver go by. Sanders thouht the receiver was going to do a shorter route. As I have said before, given what happened there, no NFL safety could have made up for that mistake. Please don't tell me that you are defending 8-70 and 8-75. Jeez, you were smarter when you were at that stupid paper, the Missoulian.Ha. Okay, I still love you.

I am sorry, Kyle, but cramps don't cause anyone, including a safety, to not react and let a receiver run by him. That portion of the play, the critical part, has absolutely f***[*] nothing to do with cramps. Zero. Nothing.

Idiot, Kyle hung you out to dry. Consider yourself owned because Semores defense was just fine and a lot better than the previous years.

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Nope. A cramp doesn't result in a d-back letting a receiver run by him. A mistake does. If you had ever played the game, you would know that. Semore's or UM's defense was not fine in the CP game. UM didn't give up over 40 points once last season. In fact, gave up over 27 only 4 times, 2 to NDSU. Even you should know that giving up 20 points is way better than giving up 42.

The second time was Semore's defense and it gave up 16.

The coaches said that the UM D against NDSU the second game was the same defense as the first game, with minor adjustments. It was not Semore's defense. TG called the defenses during the game.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

I know that I am late to this thread but the fact is that the Griz D's stats have improved significantly in the National Ranlings. Very significantly. Sure, playing a few scrub teams may have help pad the stats this season but the Griz usually have had a few weak teams on their schedule so there is nothing new there. Under TG, the Griz never ranked above the top 50 in any one defensive category other than scoring D in 2013 I believe. I think they were 26th that year. I am sorry but if you just look at the raw numbers it's hard to argue against a rankings improvement. I do agree that the next couple of games will give the fans more of a gage on where this D is.

 

[Fushiznitz]

Now that is a game that you can not compare from last year to this year. Ewu had the wheels coming off and missing some big playmakers. This years EWU team is waaay better.

Of course, I can compare that game, and I will.

Cool. That means how he does against them this weekend is on the table.

 

[Diesel]

I didn't realize how emotionally attached people get to former coaches. This thread started with stats and turned into defending the honor of TG.

One more example of how a program is larger than the individual parts.

I see how fans are happy with the new DC and I can see how some want to protect the old coaches reputation.

I liked alot of things about TG and he is a good coach. Not to knock him, I like Semore more with this entire staff that Stitt assembled. Not based on stats, based on cohesion and recruiting. Seymore and Stitt have a closer relationship and are on the same page for recruiting. Ty became the odd man out, not because he isn't a good coach he just isn't the best fit. Many thanks to his contribution in the past and hope things go well for him in the future. He is employed and that is the key for his career.

People are always going to compare, but it doesn't matter UM has moved on. It's nice to see people being loyal to their friends, overall loyalty in these things change with the program not the individual.

No doubt Ty was hurt with his removal, get in line this happens all the time in every field. Life is not fair. It's what you make of it. Keep pressing forward. UM football is in good hands and I hope this staff stays together for a while. Stitt has been a good addition and Semore brings alot to the table these two are one the same page and from the outside look like they are building a sustainable strong program. Good luck to TG. Sorry, for the guys that were hurt by his departure and don't get too hurt by negitive comments about Ty. It's healthy to see the fans rally around the current staff.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I think it's hilarious how people seem to think only Montana plays scrub teams to pad their stats. Apparently every other teams' stats were compiled playing Alabama every week...

 

[PlayerRep]

I didn't realize how emotionally attached people get to former coaches. This thread started with stats and turned into defending the honor of TG.

One more example of how a program is larger than the individual parts.

I see how fans are happy with the new DC and I can see how some want to protect the old coaches reputation.

I liked alot of things about TG and he is a good coach. Not to knock him, I like Semore more with this entire staff that Stitt assembled. Not based on stats, based on cohesion and recruiting. Seymore and Stitt have a closer relationship and are on the same page for recruiting. Ty became the odd man out, not because he isn't a good coach he just isn't the best fit. Many thanks to his contribution in the past and hope things go well for him in the future. He is employed and that is the key for his career.

People are always going to compare, but it doesn't matter UM has moved on. It's nice to see people being loyal to their friends, overall loyalty in these things change with the program not the individual.

No doubt Ty was hurt with his removal, get in line this happens all the time in every field. Life is not fair. It's what you make of it. Keep pressing forward. UM football is in good hands and I hope this staff stays together for a while. Stitt has been a good addition and Semore brings alot to the table these two are one the same page and from the outside look like they are building a sustainable strong program. Good luck to TG. Sorry, for the guys that were hurt by his departure and don't get too hurt by negitive comments about Ty. It's healthy to see the fans rally around the current staff.

I'm fine with your post and agree with much of it. However, it is not being "emotionally attached to former coaches". It is sticking up for friends. Don't you stick up for your friends, or are you okay with people bashing them?

 

[brewskis]

I'll say it again....Tyler is a bobcat. On egriz we make fun of the bobcats. If that makes people uncomfortable then maybe they should swallow their tongues and just cheer for the Griz...or cats.....


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[PlayerRep]

I'll say it again....Tyler is a bobcat. On egriz we make fun of the bobcats. If that makes people uncomfortable then maybe they should swallow their tongues and just cheer for the Griz...or cats.....


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I will say it again. If you trash friends of mine, you may get a response from me.

 

[brewskis]

I'll say it again....Tyler is a bobcat. On egriz we make fun of the bobcats. If that makes people uncomfortable then maybe they should swallow their tongues and just cheer for the Griz...or cats.....


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I will say it again. If you trash friends of mine, you may get a response from me.

Tyler doesn't have a good defense.


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[ari gold]

I'll say it again....Tyler is a bobcat. On egriz we make fun of the bobcats. If that makes people uncomfortable then maybe they should swallow their tongues and just cheer for the Griz...or cats.....


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I will say it again. If you trash friends of mine, you may get a response from me.

Tyler doesn't have a good defense.


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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Diesel]

I didn't realize how emotionally attached people get to former coaches. This thread started with stats and turned into defending the honor of TG.

One more example of how a program is larger than the individual parts.

I see how fans are happy with the new DC and I can see how some want to protect the old coaches reputation.

I liked alot of things about TG and he is a good coach. Not to knock him, I like Semore more with this entire staff that Stitt assembled. Not based on stats, based on cohesion and recruiting. Seymore and Stitt have a closer relationship and are on the same page for recruiting. Ty became the odd man out, not because he isn't a good coach he just isn't the best fit. Many thanks to his contribution in the past and hope things go well for him in the future. He is employed and that is the key for his career.

People are always going to compare, but it doesn't matter UM has moved on. It's nice to see people being loyal to their friends, overall loyalty in these things change with the program not the individual.

No doubt Ty was hurt with his removal, get in line this happens all the time in every field. Life is not fair. It's what you make of it. Keep pressing forward. UM football is in good hands and I hope this staff stays together for a while. Stitt has been a good addition and Semore brings alot to the table these two are one the same page and from the outside look like they are building a sustainable strong program. Good luck to TG. Sorry, for the guys that were hurt by his departure and don't get too hurt by negitive comments about Ty. It's healthy to see the fans rally around the current staff.

I'm fine with your post and agree with much of it. However, it is not being "emotionally attached to former coaches". It is sticking up for friends. Don't you stick up for your friends, or are you okay with people bashing them?

I get it and respect you for being loyal to a friend. I don't always agree with you and your posts at times. People are going to bash ones we care about and it is frustrating to just sit and take it. Keep defending your friends and family...remember where to draw the line for your own sake. It's okay to call out posts when they go to far and it's okay to let things slide. Give people credit that aren't so vocal...a lot of Griz fans including myself like and respect Ty and his coaching, but he is fair game for some bashing it just comes with a public career. Look forward to future posts.

 

[kyle_sample]

Idiot, Kyle hung you out to dry. Consider yourself owned because Semores defense was just fine and a lot better than the previous years.

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Nope. A cramp doesn't result in a d-back letting a receiver run by him. A mistake does. If you had ever played the game, you would know that. Semore's or UM's defense was not fine in the CP game. UM didn't give up over 40 points once last season. In fact, gave up over 27 only 4 times, 2 to NDSU. Even you should know that giving up 20 points is way better than giving up 42.

The second time was Semore's defense and it gave up 16.

The coaches said that the UM D against NDSU the second game was the same defense as the first game, with minor adjustments. It was not Semore's defense. TG called the defenses during the game.

That's interesting because NDSU's coaches say the defense they saw in the first game of the season and the one they saw in the playoffs were not in any way similar.

 

[PlayerRep]

Nope. A cramp doesn't result in a d-back letting a receiver run by him. A mistake does. If you had ever played the game, you would know that. Semore's or UM's defense was not fine in the CP game. UM didn't give up over 40 points once last season. In fact, gave up over 27 only 4 times, 2 to NDSU. Even you should know that giving up 20 points is way better than giving up 42.

The second time was Semore's defense and it gave up 16.

The coaches said that the UM D against NDSU the second game was the same defense as the first game, with minor adjustments. It was not Semore's defense. TG called the defenses during the game.

That's interesting because NDSU's coaches say the defense they saw in the first game of the season and the one they saw in the playoffs were not in any way similar.

I'm just going from what the coaches said at the Thurs. morning meeting. On the NDSU coaches comment, I was told that they said there were some differences, particularly in how defenses were disguised. Think you are over-stating on the NDSU coaches thing.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

I think it's hilarious how people seem to think only Montana plays scrub teams to pad their stats. Apparently every other teams' stats were compiled playing Alabama every week...

That's my point. All teams play scrubs during a season so that shouldn't be a disqualifing factor in camparing one defensive season's results to another. This Griz D is ranked much higher, in the National Rankings this year, than It has been in the last four years. That's just a fact.

 

[EverettGriz]

The second time was Semore's defense and it gave up 16.

The coaches said that the UM D against NDSU the second game was the same defense as the first game, with minor adjustments. It was not Semore's defense. TG called the defenses during the game.

That's interesting because NDSU's coaches say the defense they saw in the first game of the season and the one they saw in the playoffs were not in any way similar.

I'm just going from what the coaches said at the Thurs. morning meeting. On the NDSU coaches comment, I was told that they said there were some differences, particularly in how defenses were disguised. Think you are over-stating on the NDSU coaches thing.

Or perhaps -- and I'm just throwing this out as a discussion point -- the staff doesn't provide you, me, the QB Club or their grandmother the complete picture, for any number of rather obvious reasons.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I think it's hilarious how people seem to think only Montana plays scrub teams to pad their stats. Apparently every other teams' stats were compiled playing Alabama every week...

That's my point. All teams play scrubs during a season so that shouldn't be a disqualifing factor in camparing one defensive season's results to another. This Griz D is ranked much higher, in the National Rankings this year, than It has been in the last four years. That's just a fact.

Yeah, I knew that was your point...and I'm agreeing with you.

 

[Raider]

The coaches said that the UM D against NDSU the second game was the same defense as the first game, with minor adjustments. It was not Semore's defense. TG called the defenses during the game.

That's interesting because NDSU's coaches say the defense they saw in the first game of the season and the one they saw in the playoffs were not in any way similar.

I'm just going from what the coaches said at the Thurs. morning meeting. On the NDSU coaches comment, I was told that they said there were some differences, particularly in how defenses were disguised. Think you are over-stating on the NDSU coaches thing.

Or perhaps -- and I'm just throwing this out as a discussion point -- the staff doesn't provide you, me, the QB Club or their grandmother the complete picture, for any number of rather obvious reasons.

Bingo. The staff is well aware that what they say is posted in message boards about 18 seconds after the meetings.............

 

[ari gold]

That's interesting because NDSU's coaches say the defense they saw in the first game of the season and the one they saw in the playoffs were not in any way similar.

I'm just going from what the coaches said at the Thurs. morning meeting. On the NDSU coaches comment, I was told that they said there were some differences, particularly in how defenses were disguised. Think you are over-stating on the NDSU coaches thing.

Or perhaps -- and I'm just throwing this out as a discussion point -- the staff doesn't provide you, me, the QB Club or their grandmother the complete picture, for any number of rather obvious reasons.

Bingo. The staff is well aware that what they say is posted in message boards about 18 seconds after the meetings.............

Trying during the meetings... :roll:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I didn't realize how emotionally attached people get to former coaches. This thread started with stats and turned into defending the honor of TG.

It is cute that you think it is only an emotional attachment.

 

[ari gold]

I didn't realize how emotionally attached people get to former coaches. This thread started with stats and turned into defending the honor of TG.

It is cute that you think it is only an emotional attachment.

Personally, I think its due to access. Some fans were buddy buddy with the coaches, cool, good for them if that's what makes them happy. Said coaches are no longer coaches at UM. Now those fans are no longer in the inner circle. My observation is that this coaching staff is not going to have such relationships with fans, and frankly, they probably shouldn't. The NCAA has their nose in everything these days, might be best to not allow any speculation about those relationships by not allowing them to exist.