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Defense - National Stats

brewskis said:
Talking shit on the cats and their coaches is fun. If that's an issue then maybe you'd be more comfortable in bobcatnation.


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If you want to unfairly trash my friends, then you may get a response from me. Personally, I think most of the trash talk toward the Cats is stupid. Shows you never played the game, is my view.
 
PlayerRep said:
OmegaGRIZ said:
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kyle_sample said:
Semore's defense did really well against Cal Poly. After a shaky first half that included two very short-field touchdowns, Semore's halftime adjustments limited Cal Poly, a team averaging 6 yards/carry, to 3.9 in the second half. Who knows what would have happened on the 4th-quarter drive that ended in a touchdown had it not been for Yamen Sander's cramps, but Cal Poly's second half drives went like this (plays-yards): 6-38, 3-(-11), 3-1, 8-70, 3-2, 8-75, 5-6.
Of the 145 yards on the touchdown drives, 94 came on two plays. One of those was attacking a safety who was suffering from cramps, but was forced back onto the field when another safety went down. Credit Cal Poly for recognizing that, but saying the defense didn't play well is obfuscating the facts a little bit.

Oh BS, Kyle. Semore's defense against CP sucked. Even Semore admitted that. The UM defense this year was literally not half as good as last year's. And the offense this year, was literally twice as good as last year's. Sander's cramps, BS. I saw the play, just like you did. Sanders made a huge mistake and let the receiver run past him. At that point of the play, Sanders didn't think the receiver was going to go deep. It had absolutely zero to do with cramps. Sanders was beat at the moment he let the receiver go by. Sanders thouht the receiver was going to do a shorter route. As I have said before, given what happened there, no NFL safety could have made up for that mistake. Please don't tell me that you are defending 8-70 and 8-75. Jeez, you were smarter when you were at that stupid paper, the Missoulian.Ha. Okay, I still love you.

I am sorry, Kyle, but cramps don't cause anyone, including a safety, to not react and let a receiver run by him. That portion of the play, the critical part, has absolutely f***[*] nothing to do with cramps. Zero. Nothing.
Idiot, Kyle hung you out to dry. Consider yourself owned because Semores defense was just fine and a lot better than the previous years.

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Nope. A cramp doesn't result in a d-back letting a receiver run by him. A mistake does. If you had ever played the game, you would know that. Semore's or UM's defense was not fine in the CP game. UM didn't give up over 40 points once last season. In fact, gave up over 27 only 4 times, 2 to NDSU. Even you should know that giving up 20 points is way better than giving up 42.
You have never had cramps

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PlayerRep said:
OmegaGRIZ said:
PlayerRep said:
kyle_sample said:
Semore's defense did really well against Cal Poly. After a shaky first half that included two very short-field touchdowns, Semore's halftime adjustments limited Cal Poly, a team averaging 6 yards/carry, to 3.9 in the second half. Who knows what would have happened on the 4th-quarter drive that ended in a touchdown had it not been for Yamen Sander's cramps, but Cal Poly's second half drives went like this (plays-yards): 6-38, 3-(-11), 3-1, 8-70, 3-2, 8-75, 5-6.
Of the 145 yards on the touchdown drives, 94 came on two plays. One of those was attacking a safety who was suffering from cramps, but was forced back onto the field when another safety went down. Credit Cal Poly for recognizing that, but saying the defense didn't play well is obfuscating the facts a little bit.

Oh BS, Kyle. Semore's defense against CP sucked. Even Semore admitted that. The UM defense this year was literally not half as good as last year's. And the offense this year, was literally twice as good as last year's. Sander's cramps, BS. I saw the play, just like you did. Sanders made a huge mistake and let the receiver run past him. At that point of the play, Sanders didn't think the receiver was going to go deep. It had absolutely zero to do with cramps. Sanders was beat at the moment he let the receiver go by. Sanders thouht the receiver was going to do a shorter route. As I have said before, given what happened there, no NFL safety could have made up for that mistake. Please don't tell me that you are defending 8-70 and 8-75. Jeez, you were smarter when you were at that stupid paper, the Missoulian.Ha. Okay, I still love you.

I am sorry, Kyle, but cramps don't cause anyone, including a safety, to not react and let a receiver run by him. That portion of the play, the critical part, has absolutely f***[*] nothing to do with cramps. Zero. Nothing.
Idiot, Kyle hung you out to dry. Consider yourself owned because Semores defense was just fine and a lot better than the previous years.

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Nope. A cramp doesn't result in a d-back letting a receiver run by him. A mistake does. If you had ever played the game, you would know that. Semore's or UM's defense was not fine in the CP game. UM didn't give up over 40 points once last season. In fact, gave up over 27 only 4 times, 2 to NDSU. Even you should know that giving up 20 points is way better than giving up 42.
You have never had cramps

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brewskis said:
Talking shit on the cats and their coaches is fun. If that's an issue then maybe you'd be more comfortable in bobcatnation.


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If you want to unfairly trash my friends, then you may get a response from me. Personally, I think most of the trash talk toward the Cats is stupid. Shows you never played the game, is my view.
Well considering Tyler mover over there and kept that defense horrible you don't have a case. He is a really, really bad DC and our defense this year proves it.

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PlayerRep said:
brewskis said:
Talking shit on the cats and their coaches is fun. If that's an issue then maybe you'd be more comfortable in bobcatnation.


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If you want to unfairly trash my friends, then you may get a response from me. Personally, I think most of the trash talk toward the Cats is stupid. Shows you never played the game, is my view.


nothing unfair about it
 
PlayerRep said:
brewskis said:
Talking shit on the cats and their coaches is fun. If that's an issue then maybe you'd be more comfortable in bobcatnation.


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If you want to unfairly trash my friends, then you may get a response from me. Personally, I think most of the trash talk toward the Cats is stupid. Shows you never played the game, is my view.
So trash talking the cats shows one has never played the game?

I admit, I quit football at the end of middle school. Some people just aren't built for football. I went on to do basketball, track, and cross country. Turned that into a college career.


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OmegaGRIZ said:
PlayerRep said:
OmegaGRIZ said:
PlayerRep said:
Oh BS, Kyle. Semore's defense against CP sucked. Even Semore admitted that. The UM defense this year was literally not half as good as last year's. And the offense this year, was literally twice as good as last year's. Sander's cramps, BS. I saw the play, just like you did. Sanders made a huge mistake and let the receiver run past him. At that point of the play, Sanders didn't think the receiver was going to go deep. It had absolutely zero to do with cramps. Sanders was beat at the moment he let the receiver go by. Sanders thouht the receiver was going to do a shorter route. As I have said before, given what happened there, no NFL safety could have made up for that mistake. Please don't tell me that you are defending 8-70 and 8-75. Jeez, you were smarter when you were at that stupid paper, the Missoulian.Ha. Okay, I still love you.

I am sorry, Kyle, but cramps don't cause anyone, including a safety, to not react and let a receiver run by him. That portion of the play, the critical part, has absolutely f***[*] nothing to do with cramps. Zero. Nothing.
Idiot, Kyle hung you out to dry. Consider yourself owned because Semores defense was just fine and a lot better than the previous years.

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Nope. A cramp doesn't result in a d-back letting a receiver run by him. A mistake does. If you had ever played the game, you would know that. Semore's or UM's defense was not fine in the CP game. UM didn't give up over 40 points once last season. In fact, gave up over 27 only 4 times, 2 to NDSU. Even you should know that giving up 20 points is way better than giving up 42.
You have never had cramps

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I bet he gets them....monthly.


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brewskis said:
OmegaGRIZ said:
PlayerRep said:
OmegaGRIZ said:
Idiot, Kyle hung you out to dry. Consider yourself owned because Semores defense was just fine and a lot better than the previous years.

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Nope. A cramp doesn't result in a d-back letting a receiver run by him. A mistake does. If you had ever played the game, you would know that. Semore's or UM's defense was not fine in the CP game. UM didn't give up over 40 points once last season. In fact, gave up over 27 only 4 times, 2 to NDSU. Even you should know that giving up 20 points is way better than giving up 42.
You have never had cramps

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I bet he gets them....monthly.


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I LOLed
 
First of all, I think the GRIZ have a solid defense and am really looking forward to the game in Cheney this year. However, I see the GRIZ defensive rankings as being overinflated due to the relatively weak schedule the griz have played. I also see EWU's low defensive rankings as being driven by a more difficult schedule. The table below shows the Total Offense rankings and Passing Offense rankings of the teams the GRIZ and EWU have played. I sorted the rankings by Total Offense. I do not believe the GRIZ have played a decent passing team yet.

* All of these rankings were taken from ESPN web site.

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GoldenEagle said:
First of all, I think the GRIZ have a solid defense and am really looking forward to the game in Cheney this year. However, I see the GRIZ defensive rankings as being overinflated due to the relatively weak schedule the griz have played. I also see EWU's low defensive rankings as being driven by a more difficult schedule. The table below shows the Total Offense rankings and Passing Offense rankings of the teams the GRIZ and EWU have played. I sorted the rankings by Total Offense. I do not believe the GRIZ have played a decent passing team yet.

* All of these rankings were taken from ESPN web site.

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Throw all the stats you want out there. We play who lines up against us and we've been throttling teams the last few weeks. My gut tells me this Montana team is pretty damn good. Could I be wrong....of coarse.

One things for sure: We will know if the Griz are pretenders or contenders after the next 2 games.
 
GoldenEagle said:
First of all, I think the GRIZ have a solid defense and am really looking forward to the game in Cheney this year. However, I see the GRIZ defensive rankings as being overinflated due to the relatively weak schedule the griz have played. I also see EWU's low defensive rankings as being driven by a more difficult schedule. The table below shows the Total Offense rankings and Passing Offense rankings of the teams the GRIZ and EWU have played. I sorted the rankings by Total Offense. I do not believe the GRIZ have played a decent passing team yet.

* All of these rankings were taken from ESPN web site.

Eags_vs_Mont1.png

Hey, stats and facts aren't allowed or appreciated on this board--unless they support our views. If they don't, they are invalid, cherry-picked, manipulated, etc. The Griz have a great new DC and a great defense. That's just the way it is. Our defense and offense love each other this year, and give each other hugs. Our new defensive scheme works automatically; the DC doesn't even have to call the plays. It just works on its own. If you see our defensive players looking at the sideline, they are not looking for the play from the DC; they are looking at the cheerleaders. This year's Griz D is perhaps the best of all time--even though there are about a half dozen years in the 2000's when the UM defensive stats were much better. Allowing CP to score 42 points this year, was better D than allowing them to score 20 last year. The Griz D shut down MVS and SS in the past 2 weeks. Were not not paying attention? The Griz win over UNI was better than EWU's, because it was only 1 week after they beat Iowa St. and it was on the road. If you add up all those passing ranking numbers for the Griz opponents, the number is bigger than EWU's total. Thus, the Griz must have played better passing teams. The Griz D will shut down the EWU passing game, unless our secondary has cramps.
 
Jeff Choke said:
Tyler is a dream to work with, just ask Kane. I bet his D holds Eastern under 65 on Saturday!
Any takers?

As you know, Jeff, TG and Kane get along very well. It's just a fact.
 
They do now that the pecking order has been established. There was one ugly incident earlier in the year that got physical but I nipped that in the bud and sent Tyler to the booth and kept Kane on the sideline and it is working out like everyone expected. Our defense is about to get real good here any game, its getting better each week
 
PlayerRep said:
OmegaGRIZ said:
PlayerRep said:
kyle_sample said:
Semore's defense did really well against Cal Poly. After a shaky first half that included two very short-field touchdowns, Semore's halftime adjustments limited Cal Poly, a team averaging 6 yards/carry, to 3.9 in the second half. Who knows what would have happened on the 4th-quarter drive that ended in a touchdown had it not been for Yamen Sander's cramps, but Cal Poly's second half drives went like this (plays-yards): 6-38, 3-(-11), 3-1, 8-70, 3-2, 8-75, 5-6.
Of the 145 yards on the touchdown drives, 94 came on two plays. One of those was attacking a safety who was suffering from cramps, but was forced back onto the field when another safety went down. Credit Cal Poly for recognizing that, but saying the defense didn't play well is obfuscating the facts a little bit.

Oh BS, Kyle. Semore's defense against CP sucked. Even Semore admitted that. The UM defense this year was literally not half as good as last year's. And the offense this year, was literally twice as good as last year's. Sander's cramps, BS. I saw the play, just like you did. Sanders made a huge mistake and let the receiver run past him. At that point of the play, Sanders didn't think the receiver was going to go deep. It had absolutely zero to do with cramps. Sanders was beat at the moment he let the receiver go by. Sanders thouht the receiver was going to do a shorter route. As I have said before, given what happened there, no NFL safety could have made up for that mistake. Please don't tell me that you are defending 8-70 and 8-75. Jeez, you were smarter when you were at that stupid paper, the Missoulian.Ha. Okay, I still love you.

I am sorry, Kyle, but cramps don't cause anyone, including a safety, to not react and let a receiver run by him. That portion of the play, the critical part, has absolutely f***[*] nothing to do with cramps. Zero. Nothing.
Idiot, Kyle hung you out to dry. Consider yourself owned because Semores defense was just fine and a lot better than the previous years.

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Nope. A cramp doesn't result in a d-back letting a receiver run by him. A mistake does. If you had ever played the game, you would know that. Semore's or UM's defense was not fine in the CP game. UM didn't give up over 40 points once last season. In fact, gave up over 27 only 4 times, 2 to NDSU. Even you should know that giving up 20 points is way better than giving up 42.

The second time was Semore's defense and it gave up 16.
 
GoldenEagle said:
First of all, I think the GRIZ have a solid defense and am really looking forward to the game in Cheney this year. However, I see the GRIZ defensive rankings as being overinflated due to the relatively weak schedule the griz have played. I also see EWU's low defensive rankings as being driven by a more difficult schedule. The table below shows the Total Offense rankings and Passing Offense rankings of the teams the GRIZ and EWU have played. I sorted the rankings by Total Offense. I do not believe the GRIZ have played a decent passing team yet.

* All of these rankings were taken from ESPN web site.

Eags_vs_Mont1.png

First, I don;t think UNI is even CLOSE to being as bad as their record. But, let's just assume they are as all of the Cats fans and Eagle fans are now saying they were a cupcake for the Griz. If they sucked against the Griz, they sucked in Cheney too. PERIOD! no debating that. They're not overrated one game and then back to being good the next. Again, flatout no debating that. If you're gonna come here and tell us how bad a team the Griz played sucked, than they are the same effing team that the Eags played too.

Secondly, when it's all said and done, a Big Sky bottom feeder is still a Big Sky bottom feeder and Davis is a BOTTOM FEEDER just like Sac. State. I don't give a crap what the stats say. Davis is absolutely terrible. No different than Sac. State. I'll give you Wazzu, much, much better than any team the Griz have played, and obviously so is NDSU. But, Southern Utah vs Northern Colorado is a wash,and the Griz already played Cal Poly and EWU played NAU, also a wash at this point. So IN CONFERENCE, neither EWU or the Griz have been asked to prove a whole lot yet.
 
I will also say, while I love stats, they don't always tell the entire story. It's pretty easy to look at an eye test too, and the Griz' D passes the eye test, just like the Eastern Washington offense does. It's pretty easy to watch Caleb Kidder and just know he's a monster. Why would anyone even need to look at his stats. Same goes for Josh Buss. Just like it's easy to just watch Cooper Kupp and know he's unstaoppable and the single best player in the FCS. While they're amazing stats, I don't need to look at Cooper Kupp's stats to know how great he is. I can see it with my own two eyes. I don't care who the Griz have or haven't played, their defense is very good. I won't use the words scary good. I hate that MSU invented term, but, it's pretty easy to see how good Montana's defense is. And yes PR, I think Montana's defense was also very, very good last year too. Anyone who isn't blind can see that. Just like anyone who isn't blind can see how good EWU's offense is, and it does not matter that they pile up numbers against the UCD's of the the league. You can just see that they're good. Same goes for the Griz D.
 
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havgrizfan said:
I will also say, while I love stats, they don't always tell the entire story. It's pretty easy to look at an eye test too, and the Griz' D passes the eye test, just like the Eastern Washington offense does. It's pretty easy to watch Caleb Kidder and just know he's a monster. Why would anyone even need to look at his stats. Same goes for Josh Buss. Just like it's easy to just watch Cooper Kupp and know he's unstaoppable and the single best player in the FCS. While they're amazing stats, I don't need to look at Cooper Kupp's stats to know how great he is. I can see it with my own two eyes. I don't care who the Griz have or haven't played, their defense is very good. I won't use the words scary good. I hate that MSU invented term, but, it's pretty easy to see how good Montana's defense is. And yes PR, I think Montana's defense was also very, very good last year too. Anyone who isn't blind can see that. Just like anyone who isn't blind can see how good EWU's offense is, and it does not matter that they pile up numbers against the UCD's of the the league. You can just see that they're good. Same goes for the Griz D.

Good post. The proof of the pudding will be how the Griz D, and Griz, play the next 2 games. I thought Hauck was the one who came up wih scary good?
 
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