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Defense - National Stats

PlayerRep said:
brewskis said:
HookedonGriz said:
Red zone defense - 1st in nation! .550%
Defensive TDs - tied for 2nd with 3 TDs
3rd down conversion defense - 9th at .275
4th down conversion defense - 5th at .200
First downs defense - 21st with 100
Passing yards allowed - 15th at 176.7
Scoring defense - 17th with 20.2
Team pass efficiency defense - 10th at 103.2
Team sacks - 9th with 3.17 per game
Team tackle for loss - 2nd with 9.2 per game!
Total defense - 11th with 305 ypg

Awesome job by our new DC and our young defense!
Great stuff from for Semore's first year as DC here and working with a young defense! Love that we improved from last season!

Yes, very nice numbers so far. We will see if they hold as the competition gets tougher, and with road games. UM didn't any any MVS's early last year, nor a bad team like SS.

Do you consider the numbers against CP to be better than the numbers against CP last year?
Hard to say....different teams. I think Chris Brown was bear of a QB....so I think last years defense had a bit of a tougher go of it as far as that goes. So that doesn't help this years defense's argument.

Overall I thought our defense did a better job DEFENDING THE TRIPLE OPTION than last years team did. This year we just made some crucial mistakes in the secondary and allowed big plays....which got them to their too-high point total. We held them to over 100 yards less than their previous rushing average, that's saying something.

Then throw in the two turnovers inside our own 20...our offense just shot itself in the foot and owns a lot of the blame for 14 of those 42.



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HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
No, not what I said. I said UM would have been undefeated because the D would have performed better again CP and won that game, the only loss. Never thought about it, but I suppose that you may be right that we would have been undefeated with TG.

Bullshit,

PlayerRep wrote:

If TG had been here for the CP game, UM would be undefeated.

It was the entire basis of your argument.

Can't you read. Look at what you quoted. If TG had been here for the CP game (doesn't say the whole season; it says the CP game), UM would have been undefeated. You were just owned.

WTF. If that is how we want to play it, then if TG had been here for UNI, the Griz would have multiple losses. TG has been nothing but terrible as DC in road games.

You're confused. What he is saying is that we currently have one loss. He is also stating that we would be undefeated because we would've beat CP with TG as DC. You're trying to expand it to cover all the games, but thats not what he said - he is only looking at the one game, and that result.
 
The defense of last year and 2 years ago didn't go through a DC change and a roster house cleaning. This years did.
 
DuCharme said:
The defense of last year and 2 years ago didn't go through a DC change and a roster house cleaning. This years did.
Haha why don't we take a look at how our defense did against cal poly 2 years ago in 2014. Boy that was a Swiss cheese of a defense if I've ever seen one.


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DuCharme said:
The defense of last year and 2 years ago didn't go through a DC change and a roster house cleaning. This years did.

Most important stat to set Bobcatnation strait is Griz 5-1 with Semore and Cats 2-4 with TG. As, posted on other threads, would a Griz fan talk smack on Bobcatnation if the Griz were 2-4? We will never know the Griz are not that bad.HaHaHa
 
brewskis said:
DuCharme said:
The defense of last year and 2 years ago didn't go through a DC change and a roster house cleaning. This years did.
Haha why don't we take a look at how our defense did against cal poly 2 years ago in 2014. Boy that was a Swiss cheese of a defense if I've ever seen one.


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Exactly. :thumb:
 
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Bullshit,



It was the entire basis of your argument.

Can't you read. Look at what you quoted. If TG had been here for the CP game (doesn't say the whole season; it says the CP game), UM would have been undefeated. You were just owned.

WTF. If that is how we want to play it, then if TG had been here for UNI, the Griz would have multiple losses. TG has been nothing but terrible as DC in road games.

You're confused. What he is saying is that we currently have one loss. He is also stating that we would be undefeated because we would've beat CP with TG as DC. You're trying to expand it to cover all the games, but thats not what he said - he is only looking at the one game, and that result.

Actually I am not. I asked him to compare the game at Poly 2 years ago when TG was the DC with the game at Poly this season and ask why he thinks they win at Poly if TG is the DC. Then I applied the same logic to state that the Griz would have 2 losses if TG were the DC for the game at UNI because he has a track record of not having much success as DC on the road, which of course would apply to the Poly game in his scenario. I think you should do a better job reading before you post.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
Can't you read. Look at what you quoted. If TG had been here for the CP game (doesn't say the whole season; it says the CP game), UM would have been undefeated. You were just owned.

WTF. If that is how we want to play it, then if TG had been here for UNI, the Griz would have multiple losses. TG has been nothing but terrible as DC in road games.

You're confused. What he is saying is that we currently have one loss. He is also stating that we would be undefeated because we would've beat CP with TG as DC. You're trying to expand it to cover all the games, but thats not what he said - he is only looking at the one game, and that result.

Actually I am not. I asked him to compare the game at Poly 2 years ago when TG was the DC with the game at Poly this season and ask why he thinks they win at Poly if TG is the DC. Then I applied the same logic to state that the Griz would have 2 losses if TG were the DC for the game at UNI because he has a track record of not having much success as DC on the road, which of course would apply to the Poly game in his scenario. I think you should do a better job reading before you post.

Perhaps you should....your post comparing what he said with what you think he said was way off. Obviously you're an idiot so I won't comment further.
 
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Bullshit,



It was the entire basis of your argument.

Can't you read. Look at what you quoted. If TG had been here for the CP game (doesn't say the whole season; it says the CP game), UM would have been undefeated. You were just owned.

WTF. If that is how we want to play it, then if TG had been here for UNI, the Griz would have multiple losses. TG has been nothing but terrible as DC in road games.

You're confused. What he is saying is that we currently have one loss. He is also stating that we would be undefeated because we would've beat CP with TG as DC. You're trying to expand it to cover all the games, but thats not what he said - he is only looking at the one game, and that result.
Unless a team can actually use the D.C. of another team for a random single game then the premise is absurd and not worth debating.
 
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
WTF. If that is how we want to play it, then if TG had been here for UNI, the Griz would have multiple losses. TG has been nothing but terrible as DC in road games.

You're confused. What he is saying is that we currently have one loss. He is also stating that we would be undefeated because we would've beat CP with TG as DC. You're trying to expand it to cover all the games, but thats not what he said - he is only looking at the one game, and that result.

Actually I am not. I asked him to compare the game at Poly 2 years ago when TG was the DC with the game at Poly this season and ask why he thinks they win at Poly if TG is the DC. Then I applied the same logic to state that the Griz would have 2 losses if TG were the DC for the game at UNI because he has a track record of not having much success as DC on the road, which of course would apply to the Poly game in his scenario. I think you should do a better job reading before you post.

Perhaps you should....your post comparing what he said with what you think he said was way off. Obviously you're an idiot so I won't comment further.

I have no dog in this Kobayashi Maru scenario but the problem I see is there's no room for a third wheel in the Ace and Gary show.
 
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
WTF. If that is how we want to play it, then if TG had been here for UNI, the Griz would have multiple losses. TG has been nothing but terrible as DC in road games.

You're confused. What he is saying is that we currently have one loss. He is also stating that we would be undefeated because we would've beat CP with TG as DC. You're trying to expand it to cover all the games, but thats not what he said - he is only looking at the one game, and that result.

Actually I am not. I asked him to compare the game at Poly 2 years ago when TG was the DC with the game at Poly this season and ask why he thinks they win at Poly if TG is the DC. Then I applied the same logic to state that the Griz would have 2 losses if TG were the DC for the game at UNI because he has a track record of not having much success as DC on the road, which of course would apply to the Poly game in his scenario. I think you should do a better job reading before you post.

Perhaps you should....your post comparing what he said with what you think he said was way off. Obviously you're an idiot so I won't comment further.

I wouldn't expect you to get it, you can't even spell o-r-e-d-i-g-g-e-r
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
ordigger said:
You're confused. What he is saying is that we currently have one loss. He is also stating that we would be undefeated because we would've beat CP with TG as DC. You're trying to expand it to cover all the games, but thats not what he said - he is only looking at the one game, and that result.

Actually I am not. I asked him to compare the game at Poly 2 years ago when TG was the DC with the game at Poly this season and ask why he thinks they win at Poly if TG is the DC. Then I applied the same logic to state that the Griz would have 2 losses if TG were the DC for the game at UNI because he has a track record of not having much success as DC on the road, which of course would apply to the Poly game in his scenario. I think you should do a better job reading before you post.

Perhaps you should....your post comparing what he said with what you think he said was way off. Obviously you're an idiot so I won't comment further.

I have no dog in this Kobayashi Maru scenario but the problem I see is there's no room for a third wheel in the Ace and Gary show.

Ace, Gary and Digger!
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
ordigger said:
You're confused. What he is saying is that we currently have one loss. He is also stating that we would be undefeated because we would've beat CP with TG as DC. You're trying to expand it to cover all the games, but thats not what he said - he is only looking at the one game, and that result.

Actually I am not. I asked him to compare the game at Poly 2 years ago when TG was the DC with the game at Poly this season and ask why he thinks they win at Poly if TG is the DC. Then I applied the same logic to state that the Griz would have 2 losses if TG were the DC for the game at UNI because he has a track record of not having much success as DC on the road, which of course would apply to the Poly game in his scenario. I think you should do a better job reading before you post.

Perhaps you should....your post comparing what he said with what you think he said was way off. Obviously you're an idiot so I won't comment further.

I wouldn't expect you to get it, you can't even spell o-r-e-d-i-g-g-e-r

Dumbass it OR (for Oregon) Digger.....but I suspect your still in your momma's basement sorting through old playboys.

Whew another foe added. Try to help the poor unfortunate, and illiterate - and they go off on you. Typical eGriz BS...another troll I can see now. Totally calamitous.
 
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
ordigger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Actually I am not. I asked him to compare the game at Poly 2 years ago when TG was the DC with the game at Poly this season and ask why he thinks they win at Poly if TG is the DC. Then I applied the same logic to state that the Griz would have 2 losses if TG were the DC for the game at UNI because he has a track record of not having much success as DC on the road, which of course would apply to the Poly game in his scenario. I think you should do a better job reading before you post.

Perhaps you should....your post comparing what he said with what you think he said was way off. Obviously you're an idiot so I won't comment further.

I wouldn't expect you to get it, you can't even spell o-r-e-d-i-g-g-e-r

Dumbass it OR (for Oregon) Digger.....but I suspect your still in your momma's basement sorting through old playboys.

Whew another foe added. Try to help the poor unfortunate, and illiterate - and they go off on you. Typical eGriz BS...another troll I can see now. Totally calamitous.

Another person proven wrong and he resorts to name calling.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
I have not noticed any Griz or Cat poster trying to say last year's D was better than this year's D, but it is absolutely clear that last year's D performed better against CP than this year's D. Even Semore would agree with that statement. Why can't you just admit that?

No, but you guaranteed that the Griz would be undefeated if TG was the DC which is much different than just saying that the Griz defense played better last year against Poly than this year.

No, not what I said. I said UM would have been undefeated because the D would have performed better again CP and won that game, the only loss. Never thought about it, but I suppose that you may be right that we would have been undefeated with TG.

Bullshit,

PlayerRep wrote:

If TG had been here for the CP game, UM would be undefeated.

It was the entire basis of your argument.


So tell me PR...is the ever famous tickle/gargle trick still getting the job done when you see Gregorak on the weekends???
 
Compare the two CP games all you want, but Semore's defense is consistently more prepared that Ty's D ever was, or is for that matter. One of the most frustrating things to watch as a Griz fan last year was watching our defensive players constantly having to look to the sideline to get a defensive call from Ty. Seriously, half the time the ball was snapped and our players weren't even looking at the offense. You can easily see the same thing happening at MSU now. Watch a game or two and it is pretty obvious that his players rely way to much on him to tell them what to do. Now, this is the part about Semore in my opinion that is most refreshing. The the Griz defensive players are playing better and smarter. They can read the offense themselves and decide what needs to happen, rather than constantly looking away from the ball for a call from the DC. I am also impress with the tackling, that aspect of the game is much improved as well. In the end, I think the UM got the far better end of this deal.
 
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