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HelenaHandBasket said:
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Portland State head coach Bruce Barnum has dismissed defensive coordinator Malik Robertson. Vikings gave up 59 points to Eastern Washington on Saturday to finish the season 0-11
Semor's replacement ?

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RobGriz said:
blegriz said:
RobGriz said:
blegriz said:
Haslam doesn’t know about coaching decisions-because coach made it clear that if he’s the coach those decisions belong to him.
Reason #5 I don’t believe this. When you start letting your employees tell you how it’s going to be, it’s time to start axing people.

You don’t understand a proper employment structure. When you employ someone at a level where they have their own staff they have the authority to make those staffing decisions. Once you take that from them employment should end because you are saying you have no faith in their ability to perform their job.

BWAHAHA! You have no idea. If one of my employees had a staff member that wasn’t performing, he’d be gone. But I only had 154 people working on multi-million dollar aircraft, so...nothing important like football

Whether or not this staff member is or isn’t performing is a matter of opinion. One that may not be shared amongst those with much more pull than you have in this situation. The head coach is the resident expert on football matters and the performance of his staff is something that he is uniquely qualified to assess.
 
From tonight's Missoulian:

"MISSOULA — No decision has been made regarding the future of Montana football coach Bob Stitt as of Sunday evening.

Montana athletic director Kent Haslam said in a phone call that he expects a decision to be made as soon as this week as the emotions from Saturday's loss to Montana State begin to subside and he has a chance to talk with Stitt.

"I think it's important to let the emotion settle and then have a chance to sit down and visit with Coach Stitt," Haslam said. "I deal with coaches at the end of the year all the time and I think that's a good time to sit down and evaluate and see where things are going and make decisions from there. I understand that his contract expires at the end of January and that's a pressing thing we need to visit about. That'll come this week as we work through the week."

Haslam said he hesitates when it comes to giving a timeline regarding the situation, but he's aware of the importance of timeliness.

"You want to make decisions as quickly as you can. There's no doubt about that," Haslam said.

"But I think it's important that you work through some of the emotion that you have and then start to evaluate things more critically and more thoughtfully. Timelines — always a little hesitant on timelines."

http://missoulian.com/406mtsports/college/big-sky-conference/university-of-montana/haslam-decision-on-stitt-s-future-could-come-as-soon/article_00ab6dcb-21d5-5a49-95ab-9230ac891eff.html#tracking-source=home-featured
 
Well someone is lying.....can't have the extension decision made as in this thread topic....and Haslam saying is hasn't been made. If turns out as this thread outlined, then Haslam can't be trusted. For his sake, it better be a different extension style or he will have lost trust with many. He could have said no comment if deal was done but wasn't ready to reveal it....but he alluded to nothing was decided
 
blegriz said:
RobGriz said:
blegriz said:
RobGriz said:
Reason #5 I don’t believe this. When you start letting your employees tell you how it’s going to be, it’s time to start axing people.

You don’t understand a proper employment structure. When you employ someone at a level where they have their own staff they have the authority to make those staffing decisions. Once you take that from them employment should end because you are saying you have no faith in their ability to perform their job.

BWAHAHA! You have no idea. If one of my employees had a staff member that wasn’t performing, he’d be gone. But I only had 154 people working on multi-million dollar aircraft, so...nothing important like football

Whether or not this staff member is or isn’t performing is a matter of opinion. One that may not be shared amongst those with much more pull than you have in this situation. The head coach is the resident expert on football matters and the performance of his staff is something that he is uniquely qualified to assess.

Stitt thinks the defense is doing a bang-up job.
 
Ursus1 said:
Well someone is lying.....can't have the extension decision made as in this thread topic....and Haslam saying is hasn't been made. If turns out as this thread outlined, then Haslam can't be trusted. For his sake, it better be a different extension style or he will have lost trust with many. He could have said no comment if deal was done but wasn't ready to reveal it....but he alluded to nothing was decided

I am not sure it has been decided. I have been told that extension options have been discussed. If an extension does happen, and it is the one discussed in this thread, it doesn't mean that Haslem wasn't being straight forward at the time of the interview. Plausible deniability.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Ursus1 said:
Well someone is lying.....can't have the extension decision made as in this thread topic....and Haslam saying is hasn't been made. If turns out as this thread outlined, then Haslam can't be trusted. For his sake, it better be a different extension style or he will have lost trust with many. He could have said no comment if deal was done but wasn't ready to reveal it....but he alluded to nothing was decided

I am not sure it has been decided. I have been told that extension options have been discussed. If an extension does happen, and it is the one discussed in this thread, it doesn't mean that Haslem wasn't being straight forward at the time of the interview. Plausible deniability.


This post from thread initiator claims it has been:

You are correct that only a select few know. Where you are wrong is saying “what will happen" It’s already happened. Those who have close ties to the program will hear about this in the coming days. The idea is to let the news leak slowly(why do you think I posted). Everyone realizes that tempers are hot right now but what’s right for the program is not to make a crazy and rash decision. Once the wheels have been greased a bit an official announcement will be made
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
blegriz said:
RobGriz said:
blegriz said:
You don’t understand a proper employment structure. When you employ someone at a level where they have their own staff they have the authority to make those staffing decisions. Once you take that from them employment should end because you are saying you have no faith in their ability to perform their job.

BWAHAHA! You have no idea. If one of my employees had a staff member that wasn’t performing, he’d be gone. But I only had 154 people working on multi-million dollar aircraft, so...nothing important like football

Whether or not this staff member is or isn’t performing is a matter of opinion. One that may not be shared amongst those with much more pull than you have in this situation. The head coach is the resident expert on football matters and the performance of his staff is something that he is uniquely qualified to assess.

Stitt thinks the defense is doing a bang-up job.
I know for a fact he does not
 
My interpretation is that Kent is giving Stitt a day or two to have some deep conversations with members of his own staff before they have their own heart to heart. Stitt needs to be clear on who is being retained and who is likely not.

When Kent makes the announcement people are going to want to know immediately the latest...new...plan.

#damagecontrol
 
blegriz said:
RobGriz said:
blegriz said:
RobGriz said:
Reason #5 I don’t believe this. When you start letting your employees tell you how it’s going to be, it’s time to start axing people.

You don’t understand a proper employment structure. When you employ someone at a level where they have their own staff they have the authority to make those staffing decisions. Once you take that from them employment should end because you are saying you have no faith in their ability to perform their job.

BWAHAHA! You have no idea. If one of my employees had a staff member that wasn’t performing, he’d be gone. But I only had 154 people working on multi-million dollar aircraft, so...nothing important like football

Whether or not this staff member is or isn’t performing is a matter of opinion. One that may not be shared amongst those with much more pull than you have in this situation. The head coach is the resident expert on football matters and the performance of his staff is something that he is uniquely qualified to assess.
I think this analysis is facile. If the head coach were "uniquely qualified to assess" who should be on his staff, then why did Haslem insist that Ty Gregorak be retained when the head coach was first hired? It would not be unusual to insist on certain personnel changes as a condition in an offer for a new contract. The agreement with the current head coach ends in a few months and he has no right to dictate terms of what UM offers -- he can decide not to accept the offer, but that's just the way the ball bounces sometimes.
 
blegriz said:
RobGriz said:
blegriz said:
RobGriz said:
Reason #5 I don’t believe this. When you start letting your employees tell you how it’s going to be, it’s time to start axing people.

You don’t understand a proper employment structure. When you employ someone at a level where they have their own staff they have the authority to make those staffing decisions. Once you take that from them employment should end because you are saying you have no faith in their ability to perform their job.

BWAHAHA! You have no idea. If one of my employees had a staff member that wasn’t performing, he’d be gone. But I only had 154 people working on multi-million dollar aircraft, so...nothing important like football

Whether or not this staff member is or isn’t performing is a matter of opinion. One that may not be shared amongst those with much more pull than you have in this situation. The head coach is the resident expert on football matters and the performance of his staff is something that he is uniquely qualified to assess.
Yeah, especially with the priority he has put on defense and special teams.
 
TCCGRIZ said:
Cotton-eyed Hoe said:
TCCGRIZ said:
Griznationalist said:
Just wow.

“The trio of Grizzly players were were arrested on felony charges of robbery, burglary and aggravated kidnapping. All have been suspended from the team indefinitely.”

Hahaha ,I finally get to use the saying "douche canoe "
10 years ago douche canoe?
You must be pretty bitter that AL Franken never violated you !

Are you miffed that Trump has never tried to grab your pussy? Or that Roy Moore didn't stalk your wife when she was a teenager? Leave this sh*t out of the football forum. Thanks!

Wow ,your cotton must have some fungus or something.
I heard they make shampoos for that.
This guy is a Troll that is the reason for the comment
If you don't like it to bad :cry:

I'm gonna apologize for that post, TCC. Pretty worked up from the game, and I need to rein my sh*t in a little. Sorry man...
 
Paytonlives said:
NLGrizFan said:
HookedonGriz said:
AZGrizFan said:
It’s probably obvious, but count this booster in this group. I don’t donate under some misguided notion that I should have some influence on what goes on in the athletic department...nor do I donate only because they’re winning. I am a fan of the Griz, plain and simple. I will watch every game, no matter who is on the sideline, no matter who is the AD and no matter who is the university president.

I'm with you on all of that as well. And I donate too and have season tickets, and both of those will continue regardless of what tough decisions are made.
It’s too bad most of the fan base don’t feel the same way. I’ve followed the Griz for many years. I’m only on eGriz today to see who’s grasping at straws and what crazy posts are being made. I can tell you one thing that is certain. If UM retains Stitt, there’s several recruits we will lose out on. There’s a few big time recruits that want to play for the Griz but don’t wanna play under Stitt.

Sorry calling BS on that statement
You do what you like. My sources are legit. Just ask AZ
 
NLGrizFan said:
HookedonGriz said:
AZGrizFan said:
HookedonGriz said:
Perfectly stated and I truly think your attitude represents the MAJORITY of boosters (large or small) which is the point I was trying to make with Kem. I don't know what the answer is moving forward, but I am confident more supporters share your thoughts than don't and will continue to support the Griz either way. The squeaky wheel is always the loudest, doesn't mean they are right or will get what they want. Will be interesting to see it all play out.

It’s probably obvious, but count this booster in this group. I don’t donate under some misguided notion that I should have some influence on what goes on in the athletic department...nor do I donate only because they’re winning. I am a fan of the Griz, plain and simple. I will watch every game, no matter who is on the sideline, no matter who is the AD and no matter who is the university president.

I'm with you on all of that as well. And I donate too and have season tickets, and both of those will continue regardless of what tough decisions are made.
It’s too bad most of the fan base don’t feel the same way. I’ve followed the Griz for many years. I’m only on eGriz today to see who’s grasping at straws and what crazy posts are being made. I can tell you one thing that is certain. If UM retains Stitt, there’s several recruits we will lose out on. There’s a few big time recruits that want to play for the Griz but don’t wanna play under Stitt.

Out of curiosity, what's their reason for not wanting to play under Stitt, and are they hoping for a particular coach to replace him? Was it something during their recruiting that made them dislike Stitt or is it something about the performance & system under Stitt? You don't need to give specifics of course, just wondering what the general reason is and what they're hoping happens (as in who takes over) so they can come play for the Griz.
 
I think that with the current state of our University: dropping enrollment, furloughing professors, cutting departments and curriculums, I think it would be a pretty crappy move to fire Stitt and his staff, spend money on a hiring process and then spend an even greater amount to get "that coach" that we think will change things. Our University is not a position to put athletics ahead of the most important reason this University is here, EDUCATION!! I am in favor of Stitt and his staff staying. People act like that just because we lost to MSU our future is in jeopardy. They have greatly improved from the Rob Ash days. They should have almost came into this weekends game easily ranked in the top 10. So, just because they are the Cats, and we lose 2 times in a row that calls for grounds to fire. We did beat NDSU. Anyone remember that. I am pretty sure Stitt will take this contract offer. It will be the best thing that can happen.
 
bigsky24 said:
I think that with the current state of our University: dropping enrollment, furloughing professors, cutting departments and curriculums, I think it would be a pretty crappy move to fire Stitt and his staff, spend money on a hiring process and then spend an even greater amount to get "that coach" that we think will change things. Our University is not a position to put athletics ahead of the most important reason this University is here, EDUCATION!! I am in favor of Stitt and his staff staying. People act like that just because we lost to MSU our future is in jeopardy. They have greatly improved from the Rob Ash days. They should have almost came into this weekends game easily ranked in the top 10. So, just because they are the Cats, and we lose 2 times in a row that calls for grounds to fire. We did beat NDSU. Anyone remember that. I am pretty sure Stitt will take this contract offer. It will be the best thing that can happen.
I agree and disagree with that. The cats would’ve never been in the top 10 this year that’s for sure. I do think right now is an awful time to change coaches though with the transition of Bodnar. If Haslam decides to fire Stitt, he has to get it approved by the president as well, and I doubt Sheila Stearns could give a shit less about football any way. She doesn’t exactly look like the type of person who knows a lot about football. Plus even if she does, she’s out the door on New Year’s Day and could honestly probably care less at this point.
 
What I meant was that they played a handful of nationally ranked teams and almost came out on top. If they beat SDSU, Weber State, EWU, Kennesaw State and NAU....all close games that they had a chance to win, they are easily in the top 10. I think we under estimated them again this year and thought we would walk in and move right on to the playoffs. Stitt was faced with a lot of challenges this year, and I think given some time things will improve. It took Hill 4 years to get Weber to where they are. Why are we so fast to toss Stitt to the curb? I think Haslam would be making a huge mistake to fire Stitt now. It just isn't the right time. He needs at least 2 more years to get his system in place, and when he does, watch out.
 
Griz til I die said:
bigsky24 said:
I think that with the current state of our University: dropping enrollment, furloughing professors, cutting departments and curriculums, I think it would be a pretty crappy move to fire Stitt and his staff, spend money on a hiring process and then spend an even greater amount to get "that coach" that we think will change things. Our University is not a position to put athletics ahead of the most important reason this University is here, EDUCATION!! I am in favor of Stitt and his staff staying. People act like that just because we lost to MSU our future is in jeopardy. They have greatly improved from the Rob Ash days. They should have almost came into this weekends game easily ranked in the top 10. So, just because they are the Cats, and we lose 2 times in a row that calls for grounds to fire. We did beat NDSU. Anyone remember that. I am pretty sure Stitt will take this contract offer. It will be the best thing that can happen.
I agree and disagree with that. The cats would’ve never been in the top 10 this year that’s for sure. I do think right now is an awful time to change coaches though with the transition of Bodnar. If Haslam decides to fire Stitt, he has to get it approved by the president as well, and I doubt Sheila Stearns could give a shit less about football any way. She doesn’t exactly look like the type of person who knows a lot about football. Plus even if she does, she’s out the door on New Year’s Day and could honestly probably care less at this point.

What make you think Shiela Stearns doesn’t care about football? She is on the sidelines before every home game, greeting recruits and parents.
 
Buttegrizzle said:
Griz til I die said:
bigsky24 said:
I think that with the current state of our University: dropping enrollment, furloughing professors, cutting departments and curriculums, I think it would be a pretty crappy move to fire Stitt and his staff, spend money on a hiring process and then spend an even greater amount to get "that coach" that we think will change things. Our University is not a position to put athletics ahead of the most important reason this University is here, EDUCATION!! I am in favor of Stitt and his staff staying. People act like that just because we lost to MSU our future is in jeopardy. They have greatly improved from the Rob Ash days. They should have almost came into this weekends game easily ranked in the top 10. So, just because they are the Cats, and we lose 2 times in a row that calls for grounds to fire. We did beat NDSU. Anyone remember that. I am pretty sure Stitt will take this contract offer. It will be the best thing that can happen.
I agree and disagree with that. The cats would’ve never been in the top 10 this year that’s for sure. I do think right now is an awful time to change coaches though with the transition of Bodnar. If Haslam decides to fire Stitt, he has to get it approved by the president as well, and I doubt Sheila Stearns could give a shit less about football any way. She doesn’t exactly look like the type of person who knows a lot about football. Plus even if she does, she’s out the door on New Year’s Day and could honestly probably care less at this point.

What make you think Shiela Stearns doesn’t care about football? She is on the sidelines before every home game, greeting recruits and parents.

What makes anyone think that UM alums aren't already talking to Bodnar? Bodnar met with a large UM donor last week, on normal matters. Think he stopped in Missoula on his way to the BOR meeting in Bozeman before the Cat game. As was posted previously, Bodnar was in Missoula for Homecoming.
 
Cotton-eyed Hoe said:
TCCGRIZ said:
Cotton-eyed Hoe said:
TCCGRIZ said:
Hahaha ,I finally get to use the saying "douche canoe "
10 years ago douche canoe?
You must be pretty bitter that AL Franken never violated you !

Are you miffed that Trump has never tried to grab your pussy? Or that Roy Moore didn't stalk your wife when she was a teenager? Leave this sh*t out of the football forum. Thanks!

Wow ,your cotton must have some fungus or something.
I heard they make shampoos for that.
This guy is a Troll that is the reason for the comment
If you don't like it to bad :cry:

I'm gonna apologize for that post, TCC. Pretty worked up from the game, and I need to rein my sh*t in a little. Sorry man...

No problem Cotton ,totally understand Griz Brother :thumb:
 
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