Debunking a popular myth

[Fahque]

What the hell are they eating over there?

bobcat batter.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[Fahque]

Ken, every school in America accounts for scholarships that way. They do the same for academic schollys.

The point is, at some point the BOR is going to have to take a hard look at the ROI. msu spends millions more and still regularly and consistently gets their asses kicked by UM. Waded (into the deep end) should be ashamed for pissing away tax payer money that way.

I'm sure the BOR sees the uptrend in enrollment and realizes that athletics is only a minute fraction of measuring success of a college.

I ask this not as smack, but out of real curiosity. What has UM built in the last decade that was not athletics related? I don't know how new that parking garage is. Has it been in the last decade? What else? I see all this construction happening at MSU(Jabs Hall, ect) and I see these monster donations coming in for academics, and I'm curious if UM is seeing the same kind of non-athletic donations and construction.

Law school, journalism building, education building reno, pharm school addition, native american studies building...I'm sure there's more that I haven't listed

 

[Fahque]

Law school?

Well, within the past ten years:
1) Addition and renovation to the School of Education, morphing into the Phyllis J. Washington Education Center.
2) The Journalism Building (Don Anderson Hall)
3) The Skaggs Pharmacy Addition
4) The new Interdisciplinary Science Bldg
5) Major Law School addition
6) The new Business School Executive Center (Gilkey Center -- just being finished)
7) Addition and upgrade to the University Theater
8) Beginning Library remodel
9) Beginning University Center remodel
10) Separate Chem Stores facility
11) Student Athlete Learning Center
12) Champions Center
13) Native American Center
14) Missoula College
15) Softball field facility
16) Biochemistry Research Facility
17) Math building addition
18) McGill Hall addition (HHP)
19) Chem Building addition

Guess I should've read on.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Law school?

Well, within the past ten years:
1) Addition and renovation to the School of Education, morphing into the Phyllis J. Washington Education Center.
2) The Journalism Building (Don Anderson Hall)
3) The Skaggs Pharmacy Addition
4) The new Interdisciplinary Science Bldg
5) Major Law School addition
6) The new Business School Executive Center (Gilkey Center -- just being finished)
7) Addition and upgrade to the University Theater
8) Beginning Library remodel
9) Beginning University Center remodel
10) Separate Chem Stores facility
11) Student Athlete Learning Center
12) Champions Center
13) Native American Center
14) Missoula College
15) Softball field facility
16) Biochemistry Research Facility
17) Math building addition
18) McGill Hall addition (HHP)
19) Chem Building addition

Figured there were many more. Didn't know for sure; so didn't say.

 

[Tod]

Ken, every school in America accounts for scholarships that way. They do the same for academic schollys.

The point is, at some point the BOR is going to have to take a hard look at the ROI. msu spends millions more and still regularly and consistently gets their asses kicked by UM. Waded (into the deep end) should be ashamed for pissing away tax payer money that way.

I'm sure the BOR sees the uptrend in enrollment and realizes that athletics is only a minute fraction of measuring success of a college.

I ask this not as smack, but out of real curiosity. What has UM built in the last decade that was not athletics related? I don't know how new that parking garage is. Has it been in the last decade? What else? I see all this construction happening at MSU(Jabs Hall, ect) and I see these monster donations coming in for academics, and I'm curious if UM is seeing the same kind of non-athletic donations and construction.

Seriously? UM has had more academic building (or major remodels) in the last 10 years than msu by a large margin. In addition to those named by grzz above: The Gilkey Center, major remodel to the Performing Arts Center and huge technology upgrades to the Liberal Arts. Law School. SOBA. I could go on if you'd like.

And yes, UM has received record private donations the past 3 years.

The Phyllis Washington Education Center.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Ken, every school in America accounts for scholarships that way. They do the same for academic schollys.

The point is, at some point the BOR is going to have to take a hard look at the ROI. msu spends millions more and still regularly and consistently gets their asses kicked by UM. Waded (into the deep end) should be ashamed for pissing away tax payer money that way.

I'm sure the BOR sees the uptrend in enrollment and realizes that athletics is only a minute fraction of measuring success of a college.

I ask this not as smack, but out of real curiosity. What has UM built in the last decade that was not athletics related? I don't know how new that parking garage is. Has it been in the last decade? What else? I see all this construction happening at MSU(Jabs Hall, ect) and I see these monster donations coming in for academics, and I'm curious if UM is seeing the same kind of non-athletic donations and construction.

Seriously? UM has had more academic building (or major remodels) in the last 10 years than msu by a large margin. In addition to those named by grzz above: The Gilkey Center, major remodel to the Performing Arts Center and huge technology upgrades to the Liberal Arts. Law School. SOBA. I could go on if you'd like.

And yes, UM has received record private donations the past 3 years.

The Phyllis Washington Education Center.

Meanwhile, MSU is using some state coin to fund literacy among MSU train drivers with the new Cliff Hysell Center for Cats Who Can't Read Good and Want to Learn How to Do Other Stuff Good Too.

 

[BDizzle]

Can somebody please post the Truth commercial that is airing talking about cats getting cancer when their owners smoke?! The video has cats crying. It's amazing.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Can somebody please post the Truth commercial that is airing talking about cats getting cancer when their owners smoke?! The video has cats crying. It's amazing.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLtschJxRy8[/youtube]

 

[EverettGriz]

well this will be fun...

So, are we living up to your expectations, yet, ILTC?

 

[jodcon]

I thought this was going to be a 1984 thread...

 

[UMGriz75]

I thought this was going to be a 1984 thread...

:twisted:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I thought this was going to be a 1984 thread...

HA!
POTY nominee. The first one I've nominated in 2016. Well done!

 

[SaskGriz]

It really seems to me as though state could have used a few more liberal arts courses such as Economics. Not to mention a course on logic from the Philosophy department.

Or any type of science or forestry degree, surely one of those discusses the different sound a Bobcat and a Mountain Lion makes.

Ha!

I have one of those Forestry degrees and even in the late 80's we learned a grizzly roared and a bobcat said "next year we will be scary good".

 

[rocklobster]

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/montana_state_university/best-of-times-for-msu-worst-of-times-for-um/article_3d22a4ea-9105-5385-a72e-9177899aa432.html

Montana State does NOT get more money from the state than the University of Montana. They use more of their share toward athletics. This is largely because they collect vastly more tuition and because they are not as successful in collecting athletic revenue as UM. It's a different formula, not saying its wrong or right. But it IS wrong to say that MSU is more subsidized than UM.

So what you are saying is that in order to compete with UM in athletics, MSU has to rely on more State money. :roll:

No. What he is saying is that in order not to compete with UM in athletics, MSU has to rely on more State money. :twisted:

:lol: :lol:

 

[rocklobster]

I'm sure the BOR sees the uptrend in enrollment and realizes that athletics is only a minute fraction of measuring success of a college.

I ask this not as smack, but out of real curiosity. What has UM built in the last decade that was not athletics related? I don't know how new that parking garage is. Has it been in the last decade? What else? I see all this construction happening at MSU(Jabs Hall, ect) and I see these monster donations coming in for academics, and I'm curious if UM is seeing the same kind of non-athletic donations and construction

Seriously? UM has had more academic building (or major remodels) in the last 10 years than msu by a large margin. In addition to those named by grzz above: The Gilkey Center, major remodel to the Performing Arts Center and huge technology upgrades to the Liberal Arts. Law School. SOBA. I could go on if you'd like.

And yes, UM has received record private donations the past 3 years.

The Phyllis Washington Education Center.

Meanwhile, MSU is using some state coin to fund literacy among MSU train drivers with the new Cliff Hysell Center for Cats Who Can't Read Good and Want to Learn How to Do Other Stuff Good Too.

:clap: :clap: This thread is great!

 

[Ursa Major]

I wonder if Coach Frank "Fuzzy" Choate is receiving this aide also yet?

Ironically, if you look on a box of Bobcat Batter, the second ingredient listed is Government Cheese . . . figures!

 

[Ursa Major]

I'm sure the BOR sees the uptrend in enrollment and realizes that athletics is only a minute fraction of measuring success of a college.

I ask this not as smack, but out of real curiosity. What has UM built in the last decade that was not athletics related? I don't know how new that parking garage is. Has it been in the last decade? What else? I see all this construction happening at MSU(Jabs Hall, ect) and I see these monster donations coming in for academics, and I'm curious if UM is seeing the same kind of non-athletic donations and construction.

Seriously? UM has had more academic building (or major remodels) in the last 10 years than msu by a large margin. In addition to those named by grzz above: The Gilkey Center, major remodel to the Performing Arts Center and huge technology upgrades to the Liberal Arts. Law School. SOBA. I could go on if you'd like.

And yes, UM has received record private donations the past 3 years.

The Phyllis Washington Education Center.

Meanwhile, MSU is using some state coin to fund literacy among MSU train drivers with the new Cliff Hysell Center for Cats Who Can't Read Good and Want to Learn How to Do Other Stuff Good Too.

THIS made me laugh like school girl!!

POTY Nominee!

 

[kemajic]

I ask this not as smack, but out of real curiosity. What has UM built in the last decade that was not athletics related? I don't know how new that parking garage is. Has it been in the last decade? What else? I see all this construction happening at MSU(Jabs Hall, ect) and I see these monster donations coming in for academics, and I'm curious if UM is seeing the same kind of non-athletic donations and construction.

Law Schools, Scaggs addition, Native American Center, current new College of Technology. Probably a few others, most from the earlier portion of your ten year period than the more recent. I don't at all disagree with where you are going on that question. UM needs to get it's shit together.

Former UM president, George Dennison, was a legacy builder and overbuilt the campus, even with his enrollment trajectories. With the exceptions above and a few others on the horizon, there is little need for bricks and mortar expansion with the current enrollment expectations. During that time, MSU was doing much less and has more current needs for construction than UM.

 

[grzz]

I ask this not as smack, but out of real curiosity. What has UM built in the last decade that was not athletics related? I don't know how new that parking garage is. Has it been in the last decade? What else? I see all this construction happening at MSU(Jabs Hall, ect) and I see these monster donations coming in for academics, and I'm curious if UM is seeing the same kind of non-athletic donations and construction.

Law Schools, Scaggs addition, Native American Center, current new College of Technology. Probably a few others, most from the earlier portion of your ten year period than the more recent. I don't at all disagree with where you are going on that question. UM needs to get it's shit together.

Former UM president, George Dennison, was a legacy builder and overbuilt the campus, even with his enrollment trajectories. With the exceptions above and a few others on the horizon, there is little need for bricks and mortar expansion with the current enrollment expectations. During that time, MSU was doing much less and has more current needs for construction than UM.

Agree with your assessment. I am not saying they need to get their shit together in the building department as much as overall.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

It really seems to me as though state could have used a few more liberal arts courses such as Economics. Not to mention a course on logic from the Philosophy department.

Or any type of science or forestry degree, surely one of those discusses the different sound a Bobcat and a Mountain Lion makes.

Ha!

I have one of those Forestry degrees and even in the late 80's we learned a grizzly roared and a bobcat said "next year we will be scary good".

What does the Bobcat say??? Next year we'll be scary good...we'll be we'll be scary good....ding ding ding ding ding da ding da ding.....what does the bobcat say?? Fix the fix the fix the northside, fix the fix the fix the northside.