Daum

[UMGriz75]

Disagree with the comment that this team is unenthusiastic. The team has bought into the off season training and weight room sessions and it is paying off. The team is in better shape and more athletic than ever. Last year the average weight of the O-Line was around 280 lbs, right now it is 290 lbs with many 300 or greater.

Different topic. I'm there in the mornings. The off-season training is going "OK." I am looking at tangible measures of team enthusiasm, not how they are doing in the weight room.

 

[Griztime]

The team is engaged in bought in and if your at the stadium with the team at 6 am Tuesday/Thursday you will and have seen it. My point is that these are kids and choose to go in different directions but a player leaving the program is not the result of the coaching staff. it's the decision of the kid. The players are ahead of last year in regards to buy in and culture.

 

[signedbewildered]

I love to support this theory that Stitt is pissing off players and high school coaches around MT, however I know a HS coach that likes Stitt. And it's not a class c coach.

It's not, huh? Little grizzly? Haven't seen the "theory" about "high school coaches."

Chase Naccarato reflects the current feelings of many team members: "Stitt does not treat people well." Dalton Daum was so impressed by Stitt he changed from MSU to UM. Now, to leave a scholarship behind, and point directly to the "team" atmosphere as the reason, well that's hardly the "personal" decision that has nothing to do with the coach or the team. There's quite an assortment of current and former Griz accumulating public remarks that are not flattering. And, by the same token, team members on social media are silent about team prospects. Nobody talks about it any more. Even given the off-season, I have never seen the Griz this unenthusiastic.

I had gathered that Daum was quite a catch. Now, he's a recruiting story for somebody else.

Speculation? Practice what you preach.

 

[Griztime]

Please remember this is "off season" conditioning. The players can only show their team enthusiasm by "winning "in the cafeteria and weight room for now. It will change in a week when they strap on the pads and then you will be able to evaluate.

 

[Spanky]

Griztime....it can be the result of the coaching staff.

 

[spsyk]

The team is engaged in bought in and if your at the stadium with the team at 6 am Tuesday/Thursday you will and have seen it. My point is that these are kids and choose to go in different directions but a player leaving the program is not the result of the coaching staff. it's the decision of the kid. The players are ahead of last year in regards to buy in and culture.

Griztime, I'm in agreement with you that coach Stitt is changing the culture of the program, although I'm not sure it's for the better, with that said, I will add a disclaimer,I'm not sure as you appear to be about about coach Stitt...

I know that there could be many reasons for the following Daum quote

"I just wasn't happy there and never felt like I was apart (sic) of the team," Daum said'

Isn't it part of the coaching staff agenda, to make sure all the athletes are part of the team...

It appears that there has been a more than usual evacuation of athletes from the team, and if that is what you meant by "they're changing the culture of the program, then you are right on....

 

[UMGriz75]

Chase Naccarato reflects the current feelings of many team members: "Stitt does not treat people well." Dalton Daum was so impressed by Stitt he changed from MSU to UM. Now, to leave a scholarship behind, and point directly to the "team" atmosphere as the reason, well that's hardly the "personal" decision that has nothing to do with the coach or the team, as two or three posters desperately tried to misrepresent. There's quite an assortment of current and former Griz accumulating public remarks that are not flattering. And, by the same token, team members on social media are silent about team prospects. Nobody talks about it any more. Even given the off-season, I have never seen the Griz this unenthusiastic.

I had gathered that Daum was quite a catch. Now, he's a recruiting story for somebody else.

Speculation? Practice what you preach.

There's no speculation there. That is what players are saying, and it's no longer speculation when it is even getting into the papers. I can grant that a kid not getting enough attention might leave a program with some self-serving remarks, but this is becoming a drip-drip-drip of such comments, now even from Stitt's own recruits. And what I'm hearing personally is widespread and consistent.

 

[UMGriz75]

My point is that these are kids and choose to go in different directions but a player leaving the program is not the result of the coaching staff. it's the decision of the kid.

Well, that's so obviously self-serving, and wrong, as to be ridiculous. Is that the new culture: "the players are always wrong?" It used to be that the players and the coaches were on the same team.

 

[statler & waldorf]

If a player has a problem with a coach, go to the next level. Chain of command, the way it works in the real world. Haslam should have been involved in this process long before players quit/transfer. This may have already happened but most of us are unaware.

 

[Griztime]

I believe that the culture is trying to get to the next level and actively challenge for national titles (again). You can be doing 99% of the things right but to get that next 1% can be very challenging and difficult. That is what the current staff is trying to capture. I'm 100% behind this coaching staff-all smart and ambitious guys.

These kids are young adults and the only ones that can make them happy is themselves-no coaches can do that for them. The receivers had bonding activities and dinners together at the coaches house,so Coach Swett is trying to do his part, its a decision of the player in if they still want to make the sacrifices and if it is worth it to them.
These are young men and they have alot of decisions coming at them besides deciding if they want to devote the majority of their time to play football. Some players will believe its worth it and others will move on.

 

[grizpsych]

Question for all those blaming this on Stitt. Was there any leaks that players didn't like him at Mines? If not, what do you think has changed?

 

[AllWeatherFan]

I don't know the facts, so I'll just speculate: Daum was the victim of a UFO abduction, and was carried off to participate in some interstellar biological experimentation.

 

[UMGriz75]

I believe that the culture is trying to get to the next level and actively challenge for national titles (again). You can be doing 99% of the things right but to get that next 1% can be very challenging and difficult. That is what the current staff is trying to capture. I'm 100% behind this coaching staff-all smart and ambitious guys.

I haven't heard anything negative about any other staff, except Swett.

 

[UMGriz75]

If a player has a problem with a coach, go to the next level. Chain of command, the way it works in the real world. Haslam should have been involved in this process long before players quit/transfer. This may have already happened but most of us are unaware.

Woe be to any player that goes around Stitt to Haslam.

End of scholie. I can't imagine Haslam getting involved at that level, unless it would be just to magnify any problems.

 

[Ursa Major]

I don't know the facts, so I'll just speculate: Daum was the victim of a UFO abduction, and was carried off to participate in some interstellar biological experimentation.

That's silly. I speculate that the our spoiled "creampuff" recruits aren't buying into the Mad Scientist's program. They don't like the early morning workouts, the weight training and the endless mandatory yard work at the coach's house. They bitch and moan about "dishpan hands" from doing the coach's dishes, walking the family dog "Billy" and maintaining Mrs.Mad Scientist's Pinterest page. I blame both the players and the coaching staff. And most of all, I blame Haslam. It's all going on right under his nose.

 

[Ursus1]

I believe that the culture is trying to get to the next level and actively challenge for national titles (again). You can be doing 99% of the things right but to get that next 1% can be very challenging and difficult. That is what the current staff is trying to capture. I'm 100% behind this coaching staff-all smart and ambitious guys.

I haven't heard anything negative about any other staff, except Swett.

A red flag for sure....hopefully Stitt is looking at the situation very closely

 

[bgbigdog]

Curiously, no comments as yet on whether or not Stitt has lost the locker room. Must be a nice weekend in Cali or someone is traveling on business.

Or...

 

[kemajic]

I believe that the culture is trying to get to the next level and actively challenge for national titles (again). You can be doing 99% of the things right but to get that next 1% can be very challenging and difficult. That is what the current staff is trying to capture. I'm 100% behind this coaching staff-all smart and ambitious guys.

I haven't heard anything negative about any other staff, except Swett.

Same here.

 

[Ursus1]

I believe that the culture is trying to get to the next level and actively challenge for national titles (again). You can be doing 99% of the things right but to get that next 1% can be very challenging and difficult. That is what the current staff is trying to capture. I'm 100% behind this coaching staff-all smart and ambitious guys.

I haven't heard anything negative about any other staff, except Swett.

Same here.

Swett came with him from CSM....hopefully Stitt doesn't get too stubborn if issues are true.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

If a player has a problem with a coach, go to the next level. Chain of command, the way it works in the real world. Haslam should have been involved in this process long before players quit/transfer. This may have already happened but most of us are unaware.

You bring up a dark scenario. If true, it could be disastrous. For argument sake, let's say there is a problem with Stitt and Haslam knows about it. What does he do? Act quickly and admit he made a bad hire? He's in a difficult situation. Let's just hope the Daum exit is the usual player shuffling after a new coach takes firm control of the program. We'll probably know more as this story develops.....