Dammit Bobby's W/L record...

[kemajic]

Would the griz defense be able to stop the griz offense? If answer is yes, the Cats will stop them. If the answer is no, then Griz have a chance to out score the Cats but the Cats will score quite a bit, I think. Anderson alone likely to break a couple long runs and their other back is pretty good too.

Both defenses are "ok".....but have weak spots that teams can exploit. I actually give edge to a TG game plan over a KB's.

And I do think the Griz defense would stop the Griz offense. Not because they are so good....but with soft Griz oline and no deep pass threat the weak secondary wouldn't be exposed and the Griz linebackers would have a field day disrupting Sneed and company .

Never mind that the MSU offense is 10th in BSC in scoring and 12th in total offense, while UM is fourth in scoring and sixth in total offense.

 

[Tacoma5]

Poor, I agree with the first 3. I note that you were saying a big improvement would take 2-3 years, as am I. You weren't saying that it would take much longer.

Do the Cats have one of the best D's in the conference now? I thought their D would be pretty good or good, but not a top defense.

Your statement on Robby is wrong. He is a very good player. Makes a lot of plays, is a good tackler, and makes his share of mistakes too. I believe he's the 3d leading tackler in the conference. He's getting some frosh honor mention now.

On the o-line, if you were directing that prior comment to me, I was basing it on having talked to the coaches, including Germer. The starters on the line have continued to shuffle mainly due to injuries. Changed the starters last game too. One starter is playing fairly injured now. There is a lack of depth. 2 guys on the two-deep are frosh, and, at least previously, they were hoping to preserve their redshirts. The o-line has improved, but it's not where I assumed it would be by now. Haven't talked to Germer recently.

Thx.

For a lawyer, you sure have a tough time with reading comprehension.

This statement: "If Robby Hauck is a starting safety for the griz in 2018 you're in bigger trouble in the secondary than I thought." has absolutely NOTHING to do with his ablity as a player. It has everything to do with the secondary being in such a dire position personnel wise that it needed a transfer redshirt freshman to come in and start.

I'm not a Cat's fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the Cats do have an insanely good D. It'll be fun to watch the Griz get absolutely shut out in the Toilet Bowl. :lol:

Carry on...

Sorry, but I don't agree, and you are wrong. If a very good player is brought in, and starts, that's great. UM brought in a number of very good safeties. My reading comprehension is good. How's your knowledge of the game of football? Not so hot, is it.

Mr. Manning, I do respect you, but you're wrong on this. It's ok to be wrong. Your off-topic retort of my knowledge of the game of football is laughable. Why must you do this with anyone that challenges you? Let's just say I know a lot more about football than you think I do.

 

[kemajic]

I'm not a Cat's fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the Cats do have an insanely good D. It'll be fun to watch the Griz get absolutely shut out in the Toilet Bowl. :lol:

Carry on...

Sorry, but I don't agree, and you are wrong. If a very good player is brought in, and starts, that's great. UM brought in a number of very good safeties. My reading comprehension is good. How's your knowledge of the game of football? Not so hot, is it.

Mr. Manning, I do respect you, but you're wrong on this. It's ok to be wrong. Your off-topic retort of my knowledge of the game of football is laughable. Why must you do this with anyone that challenges you? Let's just say I know a lot more about football than you think I do.

The "the Cats do have an insanely good D" statement is a perfect illustration of what you know about football.

 

[Tacoma5]

I'm not a Cat's fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the Cats do have an insanely good D. It'll be fun to watch the Griz get absolutely shut out in the Toilet Bowl. :lol:

Carry on...

Sorry, but I don't agree, and you are wrong. If a very good player is brought in, and starts, that's great. UM brought in a number of very good safeties. My reading comprehension is good. How's your knowledge of the game of football? Not so hot, is it.

Mr. Manning, I do respect you, but you're wrong on this. It's ok to be wrong. Your off-topic retort of my knowledge of the game of football is laughable. Why must you do this with anyone that challenges you? Let's just say I know a lot more about football than you think I do.

The "the Cats do have an insanely good D" statement is a perfect illustration of what you know about football.

Apparently you missed my correction later in the thread. Even the best of us sometimes mis-speak. I'm certainly guilty. I suppose I was basing it off how MSU would perform against the griz in my mind.

 

[IVLIANVS]

What I find frustrating is Bobby's continual message that every spot is up for grabs. Oh yeah, then let's see it in a game setting. Your QB is not getting it done. Your OL is far from doing anything. Your secondary is not good. Put some new people in and let's make a competition out of those spots. Maybe that will push the current starters to get better. Maybe it won't. At least we'll know who wants to play going into next year. You can't judge people from the practice field any longer because practices nowadays aren't anywhere near what a game experience is. There are some fine football players on that sideline who don't see any action on Saturdays. It's now time to see what these men can do in a game setting.

I think most of these coaches are pretty good in Xs and Os. Now let's make these players hungry to play the game.

I doubt many people can agree with this statement......any more than I do!

Especially on the offense, I look at some of these performances and wonder why they are even on the roster, let alone on the field. There's no fire. There's no passion. You can't tell me there isn't somebody else chomping at the bit to get into the game? Let someone with some hunger come out and show it.

Maybe the guys who are starting truly are bigger, stronger, faster, better athletes. So, let them see what that hunger gets them, and make them want their starting jobs back. Give me a burning heart, and someone who will actually play to the whistle over a physical specimen who is as excited and mobile as a fence post, any day.

 

[grizindabox]

What I find frustrating is Bobby's continual message that every spot is up for grabs. Oh yeah, then let's see it in a game setting. Your QB is not getting it done. Your OL is far from doing anything. Your secondary is not good. Put some new people in and let's make a competition out of those spots. Maybe that will push the current starters to get better. Maybe it won't. At least we'll know who wants to play going into next year. You can't judge people from the practice field any longer because practices nowadays aren't anywhere near what a game experience is. There are some fine football players on that sideline who don't see any action on Saturdays. It's now time to see what these men can do in a game setting.

I think most of these coaches are pretty good in Xs and Os. Now let's make these players hungry to play the game.

I doubt many people can agree with this statement......any more than I do!

Especially on the offense, I look at some of these performances and wonder why they are even on the roster, let alone on the field. There's no fire. There's no passion. You can't tell me there isn't somebody else chomping at the bit to get into the game? Let someone with some hunger come out and show it.

Maybe the guys who are starting truly are bigger, stronger, faster, better athletes. So, let them see what that hunger gets them, and make them want their starting jobs back. Give me a burning heart, and someone who will actually play to the whistle over a physical specimen who is as excited and mobile as a fence post, any day.

You guys tend to believe this is a deep talented roster....it's not.

 

[polsongrizz]

Hey, come on. He just needs time to get his hosses in there. His guys. His crew. Give it 7-9 years and we’ll be fine.

:lol: :thumb:

 

[polsongrizz]

Sorry, but I don't agree, and you are wrong. If a very good player is brought in, and starts, that's great. UM brought in a number of very good safeties. My reading comprehension is good. How's your knowledge of the game of football? Not so hot, is it.

Mr. Manning, I do respect you, but you're wrong on this. It's ok to be wrong. Your off-topic retort of my knowledge of the game of football is laughable. Why must you do this with anyone that challenges you? Let's just say I know a lot more about football than you think I do.

The "the Cats do have an insanely good D" statement is a perfect illustration of what you know about football.

Apparently you missed my correction later in the thread. Even the best of us sometimes mis-speak. I'm certainly guilty. I suppose I was basing it off how MSU would perform against the griz in my mind.

Great post, you are right though, you will never see this guy say he was wrong...