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AZGrizFan said:
They still ran 74 plays to the Griz 76...
Averaged nearly 4 yards per carry - nearly equal to the Griz...
Had over 450 total yards...
But, yes giving up big plays was a problem yesterday...and has been for a few seasons.
#2 Sandry was beat by a half of a step. If he was healthy he would have ran better in coverage. Also, he missed a pick when he jumped the out route near goal. Valpo FG
#3 Buss extends drive with facemask. Next play Sanders with off coverage gets beat by a step, once again I doubt if he is healthy that happens. Valpo FG
#5 Sims is one of my favorites, but he wiffs on a sack and ounce again I think if healthy Sandry was in position to make a play on the ball. In real time it looked like he couldn't recover when the sack was missed. His ability to go vertical in scrimmages was not present against Valpo.
Cowens played well coming in for Sanders. At least four INTs were missed by the Griz. Valpo played their best Griz missed on several opportunities on offense and defense and it still wasn't a close game.
Blame the coaches all you want, there are injuries on the defensive secondary that are not going to get better in a week. Hope the next men up are up for the playing time.
#3 Buss extends drive with facemask. Next play Sanders with off coverage gets beat by a step, once again I doubt if he is healthy that happens. Valpo FG
#5 Sims is one of my favorites, but he wiffs on a sack and ounce again I think if healthy Sandry was in position to make a play on the ball. In real time it looked like he couldn't recover when the sack was missed. His ability to go vertical in scrimmages was not present against Valpo.
Cowens played well coming in for Sanders. At least four INTs were missed by the Griz. Valpo played their best Griz missed on several opportunities on offense and defense and it still wasn't a close game.
Blame the coaches all you want, there are injuries on the defensive secondary that are not going to get better in a week. Hope the next men up are up for the playing time.
mondayamqb
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First downs: Valpo 26. Griz 22.
mondayamqb
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Paper stats wrong?
I think it was pretty clearly stated that the expectation is that one of the lowest ranked FCS teams without schollies should not run up 450 yards, make 22 first downs, be in the lead with 4 min. left in the first half, not allow their QB to be pressured, lead TOP by nearly 6 min. and score 5 times. This defensive effort fits well with the last five games of 2016.AZGrizFan said:
GrizzleMoose said:
Considering how EWU played yesterday, I am not certain they would've beat Valpo yesterday. If you had actually read any of the pregame interviews by the Valpo coach, you would of heard him say exactly how they were going to attack the Grizzly defense, and that was to go for the big play - which he characterized specifically why he was going to do that.
He did that, and they had success. Valpo is better than many thought, and who really gives a sh** that they have no scholarships. They have very good players on that team, and in those same interviews you would heard their coach talk about how this year, was the first time he felt they had depth.
The sky is not falling. We won the game. The defense has the talent. And let's not forget that half of our starting secondary was hurt, or impacted by injuries yesterday. Those two dropped pick sixes, and the game was a blow out.
sdk.catfish
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So I'm a little bit confused. Didn't Semore read the pregame interview? If you recognize that the Valpo coach discerned that the Griz were vulnerable to the big play do you not think that every coach we face this season will not be aware of that. I'm skeptical that missing starters in the D translates to a vastly improved defense, when they return, against better teams than Valpo. My only theory is that Semore, a true scientist, wanted to test one more time the scientific hypothesis that if receivers run free 5 yards beyond your last defender that they will catch TD passes. Maybe you should just take a step back and say yes, the defense needs some work if we are going to have success this season. And a real concern should be the lack of pressure exerted on the QB by the front 4 which may lead to some repeat performances.
I found a lot of positives from yesterday ( Some of Phillip's passes in the 2nd half were a thing of beauty) but the defense has some real problems that need to be addressed. Don't know why you can't recognize that but then again I think you were one of the 10-1 predictors.
sdk.catfish said:
Stitt said the Griz were in 3-deep zone for 3 of the long pass plays. That's a conservative defense. In 3-deep zone, no receiver should be allowed to get beyond the defender in his zone or the adjacent zone. If that's what UM was in, that's on the players for letting receivers go past them. It may also be on the coaches for not drilling this into the heads of the deep defenders. Jeez, perhaps on except on the edges of the 3 zones, no long pass should ever be completed.
Again, if the 3-deep zone was the coverage, why doesn't the secondary have the knowledge and discipline to stay deeper than the deepest man. You give up the shorter routes in this coverage, and hope that backers or the other secondary person gets back, or the front 4 or 5 hurries or gets to the qb.
I am not criticizing anyone. I don't know what went wrong.
The Grizzlies gave up 250 yards in 6 plays. How can anyone suggest this is anything but horrendous defensive execution? You can argue all you want about how injuries might have affected secondary play, but the bottom line is that THE GRIZZLIES GAVE UP 250 YARDS IN 6 PLAYS! That is simply unacceptable, particularly when you have to assume that Semore had to know that this was what Valpo intended to do. This was the same defense we saw too much of last year with one big exception...
The halftime adjustments that the defense made virtually shut Valpo down! They still had some good plays but overall the D played much much better in the second half. That was good to see!
The halftime adjustments that the defense made virtually shut Valpo down! They still had some good plays but overall the D played much much better in the second half. That was good to see!
IdaGriz01
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Past numbers, particularly for the 3rd quarter, generally prove (please don't make me resurrect a year-old thread) that Stitt and his staff make pretty good halftime adjustments. And that's great. But I'd also like to see the coaches/team make better "real time" adjustments ... in the first half. I know that's much harder, but it sure would help.Gaeilge1 said:
Gaeilge1 said:
Well I'm gonna go kick Sandry in the ass, tell him he's a pussy for not being able to play better on one leg, and let him know it's "simply unacceptable" and he's just making excuses.
Here's another way of looking at it: They gave up just 200 yards on the OTHER 68 plays. And we won by 22. I don't care if we give up 1,000 yards a game, if we win by 22.
Maybe this lackluster d performance is a ploy to get UDub looking past the Griz!! Reel me in then strike!
Highly doubtfully however. Maybe Seamore is over his head. Maybe Stitts overhaul has not worked!
All I know is this staff had better get things clicking and fast or they should not be around next year.
Do I expect us to beat UDub. No I do not. I do however expect us to be competitive and have a bad feeling we may not be.
Highly doubtfully however. Maybe Seamore is over his head. Maybe Stitts overhaul has not worked!
All I know is this staff had better get things clicking and fast or they should not be around next year.
Do I expect us to beat UDub. No I do not. I do however expect us to be competitive and have a bad feeling we may not be.
I'm not going to pass judgement until we see how it looks against EWU, PSU, and ISU. Those are the conference matchups that matter.
There was definitely some concerning stuff....hopefully we see that get tightened up when it really counts. CAn't have the old stuff come back to haunt us and cost us W's.
There was definitely some concerning stuff....hopefully we see that get tightened up when it really counts. CAn't have the old stuff come back to haunt us and cost us W's.
I'll say this about a few of our younger guys.
Gavin Crow is a physical monster and plays with a lot of confidence.
Randy Rodriguez is a star in the making and will be a leader for the defense.
Lewis Cowans has the "it" factor at corner.
The fact that this was their first game of their career makes all this more impressive. They didn't look like rookies.
Gavin Crow is a physical monster and plays with a lot of confidence.
Randy Rodriguez is a star in the making and will be a leader for the defense.
Lewis Cowans has the "it" factor at corner.
The fact that this was their first game of their career makes all this more impressive. They didn't look like rookies.
